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Old 03-02-2018, 09:22 AM   #81
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Ahhhh, Vonnegut.

I know I read this in my youth. One of the few fiction authors I read as I’m a non-fiction reader most of the time.

Can you give a quick overview?
The advancement of technology has rendered most jobs irrelevant. Machines have replaced most workers, and society has morphed into one where most people have "no use" and have a sense of purposeless. It's been a long, long time since I read it but I thought the irrelevant in Vonnegut's book were provided with a basic income and healthcare. While one would expect people to be happy given their needs being taken care of, they were not.

It is an interesting read, especially since Vonnegut wrote it long before the advent of personal computers, or for that matter the use of computers in business settings. It was published in 1952.

I read all of his books long ago (early 80's), perhaps I need to revisit them again.
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Charles Murray the 'Bell Curve', Libertarian guy is worth Goggling on U Tube on this very subject.

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Just a guess, but I'd bet it's the other way 'round - your friend is completely convinced that we must enact UBI, therefore it helps his case to assume AI and robots will doom humanity.


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Well, don’t quit yer day job! Oh, wait... LOL

As far as I can tell, he is a true-blue techno-utopian. Think Kurzweil, singularity, immortality, etc. The UBI is just something we need to do as a result of the coming utopia. Or you may be right, but I don’t think so...
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