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11-01-2021, 09:28 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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No rush for me.
Mentally, I'm still on Win XP. 
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11-01-2021, 09:35 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Originally Posted by DaveInMi
... I am going to pass on 11 until MS quits supporting 10.
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Wise. From a career in tech I have learned that it is the guys who are out front who have the arrows in their chests. I love the early adopters, though. They debug new software for me and they eat the first year of car depreciation before I buy.
And, actually, "support" is IMO not that important. Sure its nice to get a few years of bug fixes, but once the herd has moved on it is much higher payoff for the bad guys to follow the herd. Why attack a small population of retail users when the big money is elsewhere?
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11-01-2021, 09:51 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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I upgraded the laptop this morning. Took maybe an hour and 15 minutes. Can't say for sure since I started it at 10:30 and then made a trip to Costco. It was waiting for me to give the go ahead on a reboot when I got back. So it was pretty quick. Seems fine so far but I haven't really had a chance to explore the changes.
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11-01-2021, 09:57 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: City
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Quote:
Originally Posted by misanman
I upgraded the laptop this morning. Took maybe an hour and 15 minutes. Can't say for sure since I started it at 10:30 and then made a trip to Costco. It was waiting for me to give the go ahead on a reboot when I got back. So it was pretty quick. Seems fine so far but I haven't really had a chance to explore the changes.
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Thank you for your service.
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11-01-2021, 10:25 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
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Originally Posted by OldShooter
Thank you for your service.
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Early adopters of new versions of Windows do kind of remind me of the first soldiers storming the beaches of Normandy... I plan to to hit the beach after the enemies are vanquished and all the land mines removed. Maybe next June.
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11-01-2021, 10:38 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: NW Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by DaveInMi
Has anyone with Windows 11 noticed increase in resources required, like processor or RAM?
I am going to pass on 11 until MS quits supporting 10.
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My computer seems to work exactly the same under Windows 11 as it did under Windows 10. The only difference I notice are the slight changes to the user interface. My computer is a HP all-in-one desktop and about a year and a half old. Your mileage may vary.
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11-01-2021, 02:33 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso)
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Location: New Orleans
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaunchyPirate
My computer seems to work exactly the same under Windows 11 as it did under Windows 10. The only difference I notice are the slight changes to the user interface. My computer is a HP all-in-one desktop and about a year and a half old. Your mileage may vary.
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Same is true for me on my laptop (a high end Dell Inspiron less than a year old). Maybe it would be pushing the limits if it was extremely low on resources instead of "all tricked out"? But I see absolutely no evidence of any problems of that type.
Windows 11 was unusually easy for me to adapt to. Everything I ever used is there and wasn't hard to find, just a minute or two really.
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11-01-2021, 07:39 PM
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Dryer sheet wannabe
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Jefferson City
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Not really, vista was basically the Beta version of windows 7 and nowhere near as bad as windows 8 was as it was horrid especially the "metro" interface
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11-01-2021, 07:45 PM
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Dryer sheet wannabe
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Jefferson City
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaunchyPirate
My computer seems to work exactly the same under Windows 11 as it did under Windows 10. The only difference I notice are the slight changes to the user interface. My computer is a HP all-in-one desktop and about a year and a half old. Your mileage may vary.
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Mine works pretty much the same as well but I'm running a Sager gaming laptop I have noticed the gpu fan running a bit more and I liked the more linux like toolbar til I found you had no never combine buttons option so I did the add ins to convert it back to a 10 like version for the taskbar.
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11-02-2021, 03:28 AM
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I am puzzling how to move different apps to the "pinned" section in the Start Menu. While I thought the spinning 3D apps on the Start Menu were unnecessary, I DID like the ability to move my preferred apps (mostly not MS) to the top of the list.
There is a "pinned" section at the top, but I can't seem to move apps in and out. Also, I prefer the list view rather than the icon view, but I can't seem to make that view stay. However, that's less important than the ability to pin favorite apps at the top.
No trouble in installation on my 2 year old (but older type) laptop.
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11-02-2021, 05:45 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: NW Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pellice
I am puzzling how to move different apps to the "pinned" section in the Start Menu. While I thought the spinning 3D apps on the Start Menu were unnecessary, I DID like the ability to move my preferred apps (mostly not MS) to the top of the list.
There is a "pinned" section at the top, but I can't seem to move apps in and out. Also, I prefer the list view rather than the icon view, but I can't seem to make that view stay. However, that's less important than the ability to pin favorite apps at the top.
No trouble in installation on my 2 year old (but older type) laptop.
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First, find the app you want to pin using the "All Apps" button located to the upper right of your current pinned app. Once you find the app in the list, right-click on it and you will see a "Pin to Start Menu" option at the top of the action list. You can also unpin any apps you don't want in the pinned section by right-clicking on them and selecting "Unpin from Start". You can also change the order of the Pinned apps by using drag-and-drop to reposition the icons where you want them. I will rarely use the list view mode since all my commonly used apps are now pinned and I've removed any pinned apps I don't care about.
I don't see a way to be in "list view" permanently.
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11-02-2021, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PaunchyPirate
First, find the app you want to pin using the "All Apps" button located to the upper right of your current pinned app. Once you find the app in the list, right-click on it and you will see a "Pin to Start Menu" option at the top of the action list. You can also unpin any apps you don't want in the pinned section by right-clicking on them and selecting "Unpin from Start". You can also change the order of the Pinned apps by using drag-and-drop to reposition the icons where you want them. I will rarely use the list view mode since all my commonly used apps are now pinned and I've removed any pinned apps I don't care about.
I don't see a way to be in "list view" permanently.
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Yes, but I don't necessarily want them to be part of the Start Menu [and start up - and slow down - the computer every time it starts up]. I just want them to be easily accessible at the top of the menu for when and if I want to load them. That's how Windows 10 worked. An app, like, say, Evernote, did NOT load every time the computer started even if it were at the top.
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11-02-2021, 06:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pellice
Yes, but I don't necessarily want them to be part of the Start Menu [and start up - and slow down - the computer every time it starts up]. I just want them to be easily accessible at the top of the menu for when and if I want to load them. That's how Windows 10 worked. An app, like, say, Evernote, did NOT load every time the computer started even if it were at the top.
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Apps that are pinned to the Start menu are not automatically started/run when you start up the computer. You are simply pinning the icon to a location where you can quickly access it to start it when you want. Which is what I think you want to do.
Whether an app starts up automatically upon restarting the computer or signing in is a characteristic of that app. Most don't do this. But there are some that set this up when you install them to your computer. It is something that usually can be turned off somewhere inside the program itself.
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11-02-2021, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PaunchyPirate
Apps that are pinned to the Start menu are not automatically started/run when you start up the computer. You are simply pinning the icon to a location where you can quickly access it to start it when you want. Which is what I think you want to do.
Whether an app starts up automatically upon restarting the computer or signing in is a characteristic of that app. Most don't do this. But there are some that set this up when you install them to your computer. It is something that usually can be turned off somewhere inside the program itself.
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Thanks! I did not know this. I thought anything pinned to Start, started. This helps.
Adding also about my experience in switching over, the first time I tried a restart, it took forever, but a second restart seemed to solve that, but also I had to sign back in to Chrome, my usual browser, which also took forever, but once I got that done, things seemed as usual.
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11-02-2021, 10:57 AM
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I occasionally run some 21 year old CAD software on my WIN10 laptop. Does anyone know if Win11 supports the old software that was designed for Win98 or thereabouts? I might switch over while the upgrade is free. In the past, I have found it is cheaper or at least close, to upgrade computers to a used one with the new windows than pay for the Win software.
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11-02-2021, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Pellice
Thanks! I did not know this. I thought anything pinned to Start, started. This helps.
Adding also about my experience in switching over, the first time I tried a restart, it took forever, but a second restart seemed to solve that, but also I had to sign back in to Chrome, my usual browser, which also took forever, but once I got that done, things seemed as usual.
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Great. For what it’s worth, I was poking around in Settings and there is indeed a place where you can tell Windows to automatically start a program upon logging in. I suppose this might be handy for a program like Microsoft Outlook. A program that you probably start every time you sign in. I know that’s what I do for Outlook. I don’t think I’ll activate that feature, but it’s good to know.
But, as I said before, pinning to the Start menu is not the same.
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11-02-2021, 11:13 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Windows 10 was supposed to be the final version ever. I was happy with W7 but upgraded to W10 for this reason.
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11-02-2021, 11:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CRLLS
I occasionally run some 21 year old CAD software on my WIN10 laptop. Does anyone know if Win11 supports the old software that was designed for Win98 or thereabouts?
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If your CAD program runs within Win10, it almost certainly will run in Win11. On the off chance it doesn't, though, you could setup a Win98 VM that would run within Win11. Check out this article for details. I would recommend learning about how to setup and use VMs regardless of whether Win11 can run your ancient CAD software.
https://www.techradar.com/how-to/how...-on-todays-pcs
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11-02-2021, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Sojourner
... I would recommend learning about how to setup and use VMs regardless of whether Win11 can run your ancient CAD software. ...
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Why? I'm a computer architect by trade, so could easily do this. But I see no reason. For me the computer is simply a tool and if it ain't broke I don't mess with it.
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11-02-2021, 02:37 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zinger1457
Is there a way to go out and download the Win11 update or do you have to wait until Microsoft says they are ready to give it to you? Ran the Windows HealthCheck program and verified my laptop is Win11 compatible but haven't seen any option to download it.
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To answer my own question it can be downloaded here.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows11
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