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06-30-2021, 10:22 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
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Originally Posted by Ian S
I will avoid replacing my existing Win 10 laptop by swapping the OS with Linux if I have to.
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Same here. Unless MS relaxes their hardware requirements for Win 11, I'll probably install Linux Mint on my current laptop (six years old) once they drop support for Win 10... or maybe sooner, honestly. I've been wanting to get more into the Linux world for a while now, so this might just be the motivation I've been needing.
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06-30-2021, 11:47 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Dec 2016
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Originally Posted by Sojourner
Same here. Unless MS relaxes their hardware requirements for Win 11, I'll probably install Linux Mint on my current laptop (six years old) once they drop support for Win 10... or maybe sooner, honestly. I've been wanting to get more into the Linux world for a while now, so this might just be the motivation I've been needing.
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Just make sure you try a live version of your preferred distro running off a thumb drive first. Linux is particularly finicky on older laptops because they frequently have uncommon hardware/firmware for things like WiFi, video, trackpads and keyboards.
The times I've installed Ubuntu/Lubuntu/Mint on older laptops have not worked well due to missing drivers. I have at least two USB WiFi adapters lying around that I needed to get Linux to work on older laptops (it wouldn't recognize the built in WiFi on the laptops).
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06-30-2021, 05:02 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by USGrant1962
Just make sure you try a live version of your preferred distro running off a thumb drive first. Linux is particularly finicky on older laptops because they frequently have uncommon hardware/firmware for things like WiFi, video, trackpads and keyboards.
The times I've installed Ubuntu/Lubuntu/Mint on older laptops have not worked well due to missing drivers. I have at least two USB WiFi adapters lying around that I needed to get Linux to work on older laptops (it wouldn't recognize the built in WiFi on the laptops).
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Very interesting the difference in experiences, Mine has been just the opposite. All versions of linux I've tried (Linux Mint, MX-linux, Manjaro, Ubuntu) have worked perfectly starting with my ancient PC, an HP media player with a Pentium processor, to an HP DV7 with an old AMD processor, An HP 8300, a Dell Optiplex 9020, a couple of Asus laptops, a couple of Dell laptops (6440, M4600). Just curious to know which laptops didn't work for you with Linux so I can scratch them off my replacement list. As I usually look for older replacement equipment when something breaks - which actually happens infrequently but its not worth it fixing these old machines if something actually goes belly up.
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07-01-2021, 02:43 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2005
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Originally Posted by W2R
In case you all hadn't read between the lines, I am just DYING to get Windows 11. My kind of fun. So, I read that "Windows Insiders" (users who are willing to be Microsoft's unpaid guinea pigs) just got Windows 11!
Immediately I thought, hey, maybe I could become a Windows Insider and get Windows 11 now, and not have to wait!
Unfortunately, Windows tells me:
This seems like a lot of information to disclose, even if I trusted Microsoft and I'm not sure I do. Maybe I'll wait. The latest estimates of when the public will get Windows 11, that I have seen, range from October 20th to sometime in 2022.
OK, nobody ever died from delayed gratification. I suppose. 
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Why would you think you could be a user without giving them the info they want? They want to see where there are errors occurring.... how do they know if they do not get all the info from all their users?
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07-02-2021, 02:01 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Ormond Beach
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Originally Posted by jim584672
It is pure bunk, plenty of older gen processors are plenty powerful.
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Agreed, my server has an old i5-3570k running at 3.8Ghz and it's plenty fast enough for Windows whatever. Played all kinds of games on it up until a couple of years ago with no issues.
CPU spec is not the reason why Win11 won't work. Won't matter much to me for another 4+ years, but the Win11 reveal was a big snooze as far as I could see. No compelling new features.
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07-26-2021, 07:18 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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For some time, I have been contemplating a replacement for my 2012 vintage HP all-in-one desktop. The graphics heavy nature of some of my sites of interest (like the NYT) is bogging it down. It came with Windows 7, and I upgraded to Windows 10, but it will not support Windows 11. However, I will wait until I can buy one preloaded with Windows 11. Maybe on Cyber Monday.
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07-26-2021, 07:24 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 47,185
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Originally Posted by Gumby
For some time, I have been contemplating a replacement for my 2012 vintage HP all-in-one desktop. The graphics heavy nature of some of my sites of interest (like the NYT) is bogging it down. It came with Windows 7, and I upgraded to Windows 10, but it will not support Windows 11. However, I will wait until I can buy one preloaded with Windows 11. Maybe on Cyber Monday.
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How exciting! You are going to have such fun with your new Windows 11 computer.  Yes, I would think you might get a good deal on one, on Cyber Monday.
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07-27-2021, 06:30 AM
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gone traveling
Join Date: Sep 2003
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My favorite computer definitions: Software - play with it long enough and it eventually works; Hardware - play with it long enough and it eventually breaks.
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