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12-03-2021, 06:44 PM
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Dryer sheet wannabe
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Las Vegas
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Originally Posted by harllee
Yes it does. The unvaccinated are many more times likely to catch Covid and then pass it on to vaccinated family members who are older. The reason vaccinated people are having so many breakthrough infections is that they are exposed to unvaccinated people who have Covid. I am fortunate that everyone one in my family has had 2 doses and most of us 3 doses. Being age 70 if I had someone in my family who was not vaccinated they would not be invited for the holidays.
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I have cancer, my DH has Severe COPD. We have spent last 20 months staying inside, orders delivered and only going out to doctor appointments and me being on chemo have to be especially careful. Our son and grandkids live in another state unvaccinated. They want to come for the holidays. We regrettably had to say no. I feel awful and have wavered in my thinking a bit because life is too short as it is but DH is a definite NO. So son is understanding but DIL not having anything to do with us….no one in her family is vaccinated. It’s just made that whole relationship a mess. He only has one brother (vaccinated) and we have no other family. Happy Holidays.
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12-03-2021, 06:45 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 152
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What a inspiration!
Taking care of you means taking care of everyone
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12-03-2021, 07:07 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,240
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Originally Posted by qwerty3656
If you're vaccinated does it really matter that they aren't?
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Bingo!
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12-03-2021, 07:08 PM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Saint Joseph
Posts: 92
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Seems like some circular reasoning going on in this thread. If your vaccinated and you are worried that you can still get covid, then if your guests are vaccinated or not doesn’t matter, either one can still give you the covid. Wife and I are vaccinated, all my kids were essential workers so went to work through the whole pandemic and all ended getting covid (12 total including their kids) Some are vaccinated, Some aren’t worried about it enough after they had covid to get vaccinated. We were all together for thanksgiving and all getting together for Christmas. Spread from Michigan to Wisconsin and Minnesota.
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12-03-2021, 07:11 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,139
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Originally Posted by Ginger15
I have cancer, my DH has Severe COPD. We have spent last 20 months staying inside, orders delivered and only going out to doctor appointments and me being on chemo have to be especially careful. Our son and grandkids live in another state unvaccinated. They want to come for the holidays. We regrettably had to say no. I feel awful and have wavered in my thinking a bit because life is too short as it is but DH is a definite NO. So son is understanding but DIL not having anything to do with us….no one in her family is vaccinated. It’s just made that whole relationship a mess. He only has one brother (vaccinated) and we have no other family. Happy Holidays.
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What a hard decision for you to have to make, but I certainly understand. You both have serious underlying conditions and I wouldn't take that chance either under those circumstances. I hope you will manage to find some joy in the holidays regardless.
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12-03-2021, 07:13 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 13,913
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Originally Posted by Aerides
Mod Note:
This thread is to discuss and share your personal Christmas plans. Not to discuss general vaccine status judgments, who can get sick from whom, etc.
Since memories on this topic often run short, we closed a similar Thanksgiving thread for straying off topic as well. Christmas is still weeks away, so we'd like to keep this one open a bit longer for others who may wish to talk about their plans.
As a reminder from the Covid Forum sticky:
Threads discussing vaccine positions, personal risk tolerance, behavior judgments, etc., go downhill very quickly and have proven non-viable for positive interactions.
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taps on prior post...
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12-03-2021, 07:17 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,929
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Originally Posted by MissMolly
What a hard decision for you to have to make, but I certainly understand. You both have serious underlying conditions and I wouldn't take that chance either under those circumstances. I hope you will manage to find some joy in the holidays regardless.
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+1
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12-04-2021, 04:17 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 5,316
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ginger15
I have cancer, my DH has Severe COPD. We have spent last 20 months staying inside, orders delivered and only going out to doctor appointments and me being on chemo have to be especially careful. Our son and grandkids live in another state unvaccinated. They want to come for the holidays. We regrettably had to say no. I feel awful and have wavered in my thinking a bit because life is too short as it is but DH is a definite NO. So son is understanding but DIL not having anything to do with us….no one in her family is vaccinated. It’s just made that whole relationship a mess. He only has one brother (vaccinated) and we have no other family. Happy Holidays.
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So sorry this has happened but I definitely think you made the correct decision at this point. I would have done the same.
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12-04-2021, 06:23 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 12,901
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Originally Posted by FIREd
We kinda had a rehearsal of Christmas dinner last weekend - same people who will attend Christmas dinner but we were celebrating a birthday. Nobody wore masks. Everyone was up to date on their vaccine (3 doses for people over 65, 2 doses for everyone else). But since I had recently traveled to Paris, where I used the train and the subway extensively, I tested myself for COVID before going using a home test. I just became eligible for the booster and I have an appointment next week to get the shot. The extension of the health pass (which allows one to have a quasi-normal life here) will become dependent on receiving the booster starting on January 15, 2022.
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Despite a successful rehearsal last weekend, several people now seem to be undermining the prospect for a family Christmas dinner this year. I think that the whole thing is about to get canceled even though we are all vaccinated.
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12-04-2021, 11:23 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 47,500
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Originally Posted by FIREd
Despite a successful rehearsal last weekend, several people now seem to be undermining the prospect for a family Christmas dinner this year. I think that the whole thing is about to get canceled even though we are all vaccinated.
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So sorry to hear this! I hope it doesn't get canceled. But if it does, then hopefully their state of mind will improve before Christmas of 2022.
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12-05-2021, 09:02 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 5,765
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I will be grateful if I am able to spend Christmas with my husband this year . . .
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12-05-2021, 09:47 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Puget Sound
Posts: 3,255
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^ yes .
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12-05-2021, 10:04 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 35,712
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We had a big family Thanksgiving meal with almost 30 people. Everybody was triple vaccinated, except for my 5-year-old grandniece. It was great, because big family gatherings several times a year have been a tradition, and we missed out last year.
I don't know yet about Christmas, and no sibling has stepped up to offer to host it. I wonder if we are all waiting to know more about this Omicron variant. If we cannot do it, that's OK because we already had our Thanksgiving together.
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12-06-2021, 05:33 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,408
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The only family I have left on my side is my sister who lives 500+ miles away and not able to travel. My wife has 2 grown children with families. Her son is 800+ mile away. The daughter lives an hour away but her husband and 2 grown children have not been vaccinated. They are only welcome to visit outside so a family Christmas dinner was cancelled. When weather warms up for meals outside they will be welcome with social distancing. What anyone else does is their business. What my wife and I do is for our health and our business and I don't care what anyone else thinks. I would not appreciate someone trying to shame, guilt trip, or impose their thinking of what to do. I have found during these past couple of years that the great majority of those who express their opinions that deal with medical issues, virology or scientific research don't have the background or a clue to understand what they are talking about.
Cheers!
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12-06-2021, 07:16 AM
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Recycles dryer sheets
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Decatur, GA
Posts: 261
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Just DH and myself for Christmas, which is fine with us. Family all in other states, none of us are comfortable traveling right now. We are all on the same page, fortunately.
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12-06-2021, 12:36 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,240
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffmete
Seems like some circular reasoning going on in this thread. If your vaccinated and you are worried that you can still get covid, then if your guests are vaccinated or not doesn’t matter, either one can still give you the covid. Wife and I are vaccinated, all my kids were essential workers so went to work through the whole pandemic and all ended getting covid (12 total including their kids) Some are vaccinated, Some aren’t worried about it enough after they had covid to get vaccinated. We were all together for thanksgiving and all getting together for Christmas. Spread from Michigan to Wisconsin and Minnesota.
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Exactly!
I was just at a XMAS party at a neighbors house. One couple there - a nurse and a cop and teenage son- all had gotten the vaccines and all still got COVID.
Another neighbor said the same thing happened to him.
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12-06-2021, 02:38 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Leeward Oahu
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I feel so fortunate to live in a state with the lowest (or almost) infection rate. I think our Vax. rate is about 74% so I just don't worry too much when I get together with friends locally. My "intimate" friends have all been Vax'd so when we get together for Christmas (seating in a car port) Covid will be way down on my list of concerns.
I hope everyone stays safe this holiday season!
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12-19-2021, 09:14 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Puget Sound
Posts: 3,255
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We have the tests on the counter, and are really looking forward to the gathering. My niece has built an outdoor venue for us, with good ventilation.
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12-19-2021, 09:56 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: West of the Mississippi
Posts: 17,256
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I'll be spending Christmas with family. That is something I am thankful for. Alas, one child is far away and wont be with us. But, I hope to visit after the Christmas travel madness is over. GF's kids will be at their dad's place this year, so I get to have her with me also.
We are all vaccinated including the youngsters. The older folks are boosted also. So I am feeling about as safe as I can be in these somewhat treacherous days.
FWIW, I keep an upstairs window partially open and the door the garage propped open. This increases air circulation throughout the home. There is nothing scientific about it, but as I stand near the propped open garage door I can feel a significant cool breeze enter the house. I do this at the cost of a few dollars more in heating expenses during the day. I think it's worth the money.
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12-19-2021, 11:02 AM
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Full time employment: Posting here.
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 530
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Just found out we are not invited to Xmas. I am vaccinated and Covid recovered and DH is Covid recovered only.
It’s hurtful. I feel terrible and quite frankly it’s not something we will recover from. The craziness this disease has brought to the world is just beyond sad.
My mother seems to think I should spend time with her without my DH, that was fine before I figured out DH wasn’t welcome.
What’s really lame is mom can’t stand to be alone. She’s a social butterfly and meets up with people daily, DH and I are homebodies and might go out once a month if at all. Most of our friends are Covid recovered comes with the prior first responder territory. We have been retired a year so no longer deal with the masses daily.
Sigh
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