Life After Corona

[RobbieB]

I think people are going to go out and live large! After being shut in for so long there's gonna be a big party, lot's of travel and exotic food and drink. Maybe not so much casual sex but hey that's a good thing too -

[daylatedollarshort]

I think some people will be more frugal, just like my grandparents were very frugal after living through the Great Depression. We've all seen the articles about households living pay check to paycheck, and now many will have no income for some time either due to being sick, in quarantine or their employers shutting down for lack of customers.

[NW-Bound]

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Originally Posted by RobbieB I think people are going to go out and live large! After being shut in for so long there's gonna be a big party, lot's of travel and exotic food and drink. Maybe not so much casual sex but hey that's a good thing too -

Sounds good to me. To the people who will survive this. And I intend to be in that group.

[grayv]

when the closed bars open back up, there will be a party

[Lewis Clark]

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Originally Posted by michelek My prediction FWIW is that higher education will realize that most of the college classes can be delivered very effectively via online platforms.

I've been teaching online for 17 years. Class content can be delivered online in most - not all - cases. But delivering content to students, and having students understand and retain the information, are completely different concepts.

Effective online learning requires more study time, dedication and discipline than is required of most students in classes on campus. In my experience, the vast majority of students taking online classes would do a lot better in a classroom on campus.

[frances]

Y’all need to keep in mind this virus is NOT “going away”. It’s here and it’s staying. Just like SARS, MIRS, EBOLA, Malaria, etc.
What WILL happen is a vaccine will be developed that will help control it, people will - for a time - pay better attention to hygiene, and an amount of human immunity will get built up, just as we have to viruses now.
If you want an eye-opener about viruses and the possibilities of what’s to come go watch “Pandemic” on Netflix. A docuseries that just came out January 22, 2020.
This ain’t the big one, folks....

[oscar1]

These are all great thoughts people. I am thinking 2020 is going to go down in history as one of the ‘great equalizers’ we see once a generation, specifically USA vs. other countries but also, have’s and Have-nots within the USA. IF, and this is an IF, CV19 goes on for 6 months, restaurants, travel & leisure, sporting events, you name it, we’ll have a pretty lengthy recovery. We maybe no where near the bottom but you won’t see people quickly return to airplanes. Sporting events, yes. Concerts, maybe. It will take time. Should we have some basic level of health care for all citizens, YES we should (we are about to see first hand how unequal our health care system is (NBA And rich people can afford to get tested but the rest of can not). If 50% of Americans are directly or indirectly (401ks, Other big company savings vehicles) tied to the stock markets, they just lost a boat-load of wealth (meaning average family net worth just equalized a bit with the 50% that have no savings and I am probably low on those percentages). But it will return, always does, IF you have time to ride out the likely lengthy recovery. Then you have the USA’s perception in the world. Italy and Iran are falling flat footed per the current testing and treatment rates. USA could surpass them and China so it could expose inequalities in a bunch of areas. I think at the end of the day, our freedom and capitalist structure and ability to adapt will supersede all else. But we are definitely witnessing an era of great equalization globally.

[frances]

Part of the problem that Italy has had with the outbreak has been that they didn't believe what what happening and didn't isolate as recommended.
There is a VERY haunting youtube video
(link here: https://youtu.be/o_cImRzKXOs)
that has citizens of Italy telling how if they'd known 10 days prior what was to come how they'd behaved differently - they wouldn't have ignored the precautions.
I see so much of that in my community and frankly it scares me not only for myself but for everyone around me. My local city has just issued an emergency ordinance that bans any activity that would result in the gathering of 10 or more people at restaurants, gyms, fitness centers, bowling alleys, arcades, movie theaters, live performance venues, and public and private clubs. Take-out, take-away, and delivery service is still allowed.
This after the local parks/basketball courts/playgrounds were crowded and people were pretty much ignoring the plea for "social distancing".

[Katsmeow]

I guess it depends on how this all ends and what happens. For example, if we end up actually having a depression or if there are a huge number of deaths then that is different than having a relatively short recession and a lesser number of deaths.

I can hypothesize some pretty grim scenarios where things are different after this (particularly related to the financial impact).

Failing that I suspect that there will be more of a recognition of what jobs can be done remotely and the value of online instruction. On a personal level I will probably do more to make sure I have at least a month's worth of food and household supplies. I was able to get this for this event for most products but not hand sanitizer. At the start of March I made a couple of large grocery runs (yes, I bought an 18 pack of toilet paper) to make sure we had a month's worth of stuff. I considered getting hand sanitizer but wondered if I was being too alarmist and didn't buy it and thought I could get it later. Well, later, it was all gone.

I do think I will always have it on hand in the future and, honestly, I think I will be more diligent on using it and hand washing (I did wash my hands but not necessarily for 20 seconds).

[RobbieB]

I'm getting stir crazy and it's only been a week. I miss my "lunch out" every day. Take out is not the same. And some places just closed.

[Vinnyfrombrooklyn]

One thing that I did was download the Sunoco app to my phone. No longer have to take out my credit card. You pull up to pump and hit what number it is on the app and you are good to go.

One less thing to touch. Im sure hundreds touch the pump every day.

[6miths]

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Originally Posted by Lewis Clark I've been teaching online for 17 years. Class content can be delivered online in most - not all - cases. But delivering content to students, and having students understand and retain the information, are completely different concepts. Effective online learning requires more study time, dedication and discipline than is required of most students in classes on campus. In my experience, the vast majority of students taking online classes would do a lot better in a classroom on campus.

Having delivered online material in the past and back to doing it this week and for the foreseeable future - I concur.

[doneat54]

We have a pandemic of stupid more than a viral one.....

[Sunset]

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Originally Posted by sengsational ..... Before the government gets into the certification business, there may be private companies that come up with a model to get factory packaged food to a restaurant and to your table without having come in contact with a human hand. Maybe factory packages go into one of those isolation things like they use in laboratories, and only then are opened. Special trays or something for delivery to your table. Things that come hot out of the oven would be simpler (like the example of someone here purposefully ordering the dinner that came right out of the oven, still bubbling when it got to the table). Fresh, uncooked plants might be a problem, though. I don't know all of the details of how it will be done, but they'll figure it out, alter the menu if needed so everything they serve complies, market it, and people will start going to those places.

TV dinners fit the bill, they are filled by machine, and sealed. Plus the cooking you do will kill most bad stuff.

[Sunset]

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Originally Posted by Amethyst ...Kleenex boxes - today's substitute for toilet paper. (I sure hope they flush okay). ......

They DON'T flush well, just heard on the radio, Chicago sewer workers are finding more clogs due to paper towels and kleenex , etc being flushed.

[harley]

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Originally Posted by Sunset TV dinners fit the bill, they are filled by machine, and sealed. Plus the cooking you do will kill most bad stuff.

True, but I think he was talking about food.

[foxcreek9]

I would hope we would stop worrying about inconsequential stuff like single use plastic bags, straws, minuscule amounts of chemicals in your food, and if the earth will warm 1 degree over the next 100 years. Take the wasted tax money on windmills and solar panels to develop long-term vaccinations for this and potentially other zootonic diseases.

[frances]

You can also use peroxide for sanitizing things. It's just not as fast as 70%+ alcohol. Be careful though. Some people think you can mix it with things like vinegar - NOPE. It gets dangerous when you do that.

Be safe y'all.

[Lewis Clark]

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Originally Posted by foxcreek9 I would hope we would stop worrying about inconsequential stuff like single use plastic bags, straws, minuscule amounts of chemicals in your food, and if the earth will warm 1 degree over the next 100 years. Take the wasted tax money on windmills and solar panels to develop long-term vaccinations for this and potentially other zootonic diseases.

Some folks have trouble seeing the seriousness long term problems because they are not in-our-faces in the media. But they are important, too.

[MichaelB]

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Originally Posted by foxcreek9 I would hope we would stop worrying about inconsequential stuff like single use plastic bags, straws, minuscule amounts of chemicals in your food, and if the earth will warm 1 degree over the next 100 years. Take the wasted tax money on windmills and solar panels to develop long-term vaccinations for this and potentially other zootonic diseases.

This is not the time or place to vent about public policy choices.