Sweden Reversing??

[Nemo2]

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Originally Posted by corn18 The source that says obesity causes poorer outcomes to COVID-19.

I'm sorry....Carnac the Magnificent wasn't on hand to interpret your one word question.

[timo2]

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Originally Posted by DFW_M5 Article also pointed out that a high percent of their deaths are from nursing homes and elderly.

I saw that in the article. I don't see why that matters, except from a purely statistical perspective.

[corn18]

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Originally Posted by Nemo2 I'm sorry....Carnac the Magnificent wasn't on hand to interpret your one word question.

We all know Americans are fat.

[explanade]

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Originally Posted by P.S. Sweden’s “approach” works, as it does in the other parts of the world that have adopted it: cover your face and physically distancing. Shutting down business in and of itself does nothing to slow viral spread if people still congregate and share airspace in other venues.

True but if you close or restrict venues where people gather or places which are riskier such as gyms, you give people less of a reason to go out and be in close proximity to people.

For instance, people can always visit each other's homes for dinners or barbecues or parties.

But bars and restaurants make it easier for people to be among greater numbers of people in confined spaces.

It would be interesting to see what the traffic numbers for restaurants and bars in Stockholm are, compared to pre-pandemic.

I've also heard that Sweden isn't faring any better economically than neighboring countries, despite not shutting down businesses.

For instance, have a lot of Stockholm residents been able to work from home or have then been forced to go into offices?

[eytonxav]

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Originally Posted by timo2 I saw that in the article. I don't see why that matters, except from a purely statistical perspective.

I was responding to another posters comment. Anyhow, tell that to the folks who lost loved ones. Nursing homes generally have elderly residents with pre-existing conditions, and further are ill-equipped and trained to handle Covid. Look at what happened in NY and in other states too when nursing homes have Covid outbreaks, good outcomes are not likely. Many of these deaths could have been avoided and probably the same for Sweden.

[Golden sunsets]

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Originally Posted by Music Lover It's basic common sense that if you test more people then more positive tests show up. The number of fatalities is a far more important measure....but I guess saying that there were 5000 new cases is more dramatic than saying the fatality rate is decreasing.

I agree with you that fatality percentages are perhaps more important, but fatalities are a lagging indicator. Hospitalizations are also more important and also a lagging indicator. Both hospitalizations and deaths are increasing, though.

But, but, but, number of new cases is important when the infection rate is also increasing, which is the case in most if not all of the spiking states. The argument that more testing leads to more positive tests is only relevant if the positivity rate is stable or decreasing.

[timo2]

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Originally Posted by DFW_M5 I was responding to another posters comment. Anyhow, tell that to the folks who lost loved ones. Nursing homes generally have elderly residents with pre-existing conditions, and further are ill-equipped and trained to handle Covid. Look at what happened in NY and in other states too when nursing homes have Covid outbreaks, good outcomes are not likely. Many of these deaths could have been avoided and probably the same for Sweden.

I agree with you. I took the article, and your repeating that statement, to mean that they were dismissing the death total because it was 'only' those people. Because I have heard that sentiment here in the USA. My apologies.

[eytonxav]

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Originally Posted by timo2 I agree with you. I took the article, and your repeating that statement, to mean that they were dismissing the death total because it was 'only' those people. Because I have heard that sentiment here in the USA. My apologies.

No problem, it's difficult to read into the context or thinking when someone makes an online comment and none of us are mind readers.