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Midpack 02-09-2020 08:30 AM

I know there are a few exceptions, but does it seem odd to you that PGA pros are mostly thumbing their noses at the USGA/R&A rule change encouraging all players to leave the pin in?

I wasn’t keen on the idea after 50+ years pulling the pin, but I adapted quickly, like 95% of the people I play with - incidentally mostly seniors who may be more resistant to change. I’m not sure it’s sped up play either - everyone still marks, cleans, walks all over to reads putts (even short ones), retrieves clubs - some (not enough) even repair ball marks.

Do you putt with the pin in these days?

jcretire77 02-09-2020 08:42 AM

Pin in.

I play too fast. To my own detriment. If I took more time reading putts it would knock some strokes off the card.

Big_Hitter 02-09-2020 09:20 AM

almost everyone at the club putts with the pin in

Big_Hitter 02-09-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jcretire77 (Post 2367582)
Big_Hitter. I've seen you hit, much better then myself. And now that you are retired you'll have even more time to practice. If only it would quit raining or snowing or sleeting or whatever else nature wants to throw at us.

let's try and play next week - I'm still really rusty and recovering from the flu - I have a tee time today but may bail since it's still really cold

last time I played was when Soltau almost nailed you teeing off #1 - he said he didn't know you were out that my bad for not warning him :o

OH, I GOT NEW GRIPS - golf pride g2 cobalt blue!

jkern 02-09-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Huston55 (Post 2367519)
I read a link today that said one can break 80 by doing three things:

1. Hit 8 greens in regulation (likely four Par 5s + four other holes)
2. Have 33 putts or less.
3. Have nothing worse than bogey on any hole.

Thoughts?

I think they are saying: 8 GIR's equal 8 pars, 33 putts equal 3 up and down 1 putt pars, and bogeys on the other 7 holes equal 7 over par, thus 79 on a par 72 course.

Midpack 02-09-2020 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Huston55 (Post 2367519)
I read a link today that said one can break 80 by doing three things:

1. Hit 8 greens in regulation (likely four Par 5s + four other holes)
2. Have 33 putts or less.
3. Have nothing worse than bogey on any hole.

Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by jkern (Post 2367628)
I think they are saying: 8 GIR's equal 8 pars, 33 putts equal 3 up and down 1 putt pars, and bogeys on the other 7 holes equal 7 over par, thus 79 on a par 72 course.


Pretty hard to argue with that logic!

pb4uski 02-09-2020 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Midpack (Post 2367591)
.... Do you putt with the pin in these days?

Yes... pin in most of the time. IMO it does speed up play. We only take it out if the wind is blowing the pin or the pin's shadow back and forth enough that it is distracting or if the pin's shadow is right in the line, but we rarely take it out. While I've seen numerous instances where a bad put was helped by the pin I can only recall one instance where a good putt was hurt by the pin.

Jerry1 02-09-2020 01:36 PM

I’ve never had anyone waiting on me or the guys I golf with no matter what we do with the pin. Basically no set rule but we seem to leave it in for long puts and take it out as we get closer. I think speed of play is more out on the fairway (or I should say missed fairways) than it is on the putting green. If it’s not a sanctioned event, drop a ball and go. If your foursome cares, search for a minute and take your medicine if you don’t find the ball. Play ready golf, even on the green. Still ends up being plenty of time to concentrate on your putt.

zinger1457 02-10-2020 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Midpack (Post 2367591)
I know there are a few exceptions, but does it seem odd to you that PGA pros are mostly thumbing their noses at the USGA/R&A rule change encouraging all players to leave the pin in?


Don't think the intent of the rule was to encourage PGA tour players to leave the flag in, might speed up play for the rest of us but not much of a time saver if you have caddies around to pull the flag. The groups I play with leave it in.


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Break 80
I read a link today that said one can break 80 by doing three things:

1. Hit 8 greens in regulation (likely four Par 5s + four other holes)
2. Have 33 putts or less.
3. Have nothing worse than bogey on any hole.

Thoughts?
If you're thinking about and keeping track of all that during your round you'll be lucky to break 90.

golfnut 02-10-2020 08:31 AM

I use an interlocking grip. It was good enough for Tiger and Jack.

JoeWras 02-10-2020 08:35 AM

Interlocking. My first attempts were baseball, since that was my original stick sport. Had a few group lessons and we spent like two days doing nothing but grip. The teacher was good, it stuck.

I ain't changing now.

jkern 02-11-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by zinger1457 (Post 2368161)
Don't think the intent of the rule was to encourage PGA tour players to leave the flag in, might speed up play for the rest of us but not much of a time saver if you have caddies around to pull the flag. The groups I play with leave it in.



If you're thinking about and keeping track of all that during your round you'll be lucky to break 90.

I've been tracking stats for a long time now. It's become a habit and doesn't distract me from playing. It might throw off someone trying it for the first time.

pb4uski 02-11-2020 11:21 AM

Learned with interlocking grip, went to baseball/10-finger for while, then back to interlocking... more comfortable for me.

robnplunder 02-12-2020 01:01 AM

I've got my 1st ever hole-in-one today after almost 10 years of playing golf. I can die now without any regret.

Dawg52 02-12-2020 07:18 AM

Our group leaves the pin in 95% of the time. Occasionally it will lean towards the putter and it is usually pulled then.

Midpack 02-12-2020 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by robnplunder (Post 2369237)
I've got my 1st ever hole-in-one today after almost 10 years of playing golf. I can die now without any regret.

Congrats! A surreal feeling Iím sure.

Someone on the golf channel was postulating thereís no equivalent to a hole in one, a perfect shot, in any other sport.

pb4uski 02-12-2020 07:39 AM

Perhaps a 300 game or 900 series in bowling.

Midpack 02-12-2020 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pb4uski (Post 2369292)
Perhaps a 300 game or 900 series in bowling.

Good one, I hadn’t thought of that, and neither did the Golf Channel guys.

And we should probably value an albatross as a greater accomplishment than a (par 3) hole in one.

jollystomper 02-12-2020 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Midpack (Post 2367591)
Do you putt with the pin in these days?

I and the group I primarily play with do. We rarely take it out; for example, if the first one putting makes it on their first shot they might take it out to retrieve the ball if that is not slowing others down, and hold it while the others putt.

jollystomper 02-12-2020 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by robnplunder (Post 2369237)
I've got my 1st ever hole-in-one today after almost 10 years of playing golf. I can die now without any regret.


Congrats! Still waiting on my first one. I have come close twice in the last month (within a foot and 2nd bounce off the flag stick) but no cigar.


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