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jcretire77 05-24-2018 12:15 PM

One time with a big wind down hill . . .

Music Lover 05-24-2018 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Huston55 (Post 2052585)
250 yds @ 88 mph is very efficient! Iíd have no complaints at all about that.

My instructor said my swing was efficient based on the simulator. The 250 drives are on dry fairways, so there's some extra roll.

My PW goes 125 and 7-iron 160, and according to that chart I'm a little under 100 mph if I assume a small amount of roll. Or, perhaps my clubs have strong lofts?

zinger1457 05-24-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Music Lover (Post 2052671)
My PW goes 125 and 7-iron 160, and according to that chart I'm a little under 100 mph if I assume a small amount of roll. Or, perhaps my clubs have strong lofts?


It's unfortunate that the manufacturers don't work on a common standard when it comes to iron lofts, it's hard to do any type of comparison. A 7 iron today might be the same loft of a 5 iron 10-15 years ago and one manufacturers 7 iron may not be the same loft as what others use. I was looking at new irons and comparing Titleist AP1 and AP2 irons and they don't even use the same lofts within their own brand. It's a game the manufacturers play so they can say their new irons are longer.

Midpack 05-24-2018 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by zinger1457 (Post 2052754)
It's unfortunate that the manufacturers don't work on a common standard when it comes to iron lofts. A 7 iron today might be the same loft of a 5 iron 10-15 years ago and one manufacturers 7 iron may not be the same loft as what others use. I was looking at new irons and comparing Titleist AP1 and AP2 irons and they don't even use the same lofts within their own brand. It's a game the manufacturers play so they can say their new irons are longer.

+1. I wish they’d kept iron lofts standard too, but I’ve been in too many pointless “debates” on golf forums, a common discussion topic. Lots of people have accepted the kool-aid (lower CG, higher launch, had to reduce lofts - some truth but more BS), strokes the ego for some which sells golf clubs...

jkern 05-25-2018 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by zinger1457 (Post 2052754)
It's unfortunate that the manufacturers don't work on a common standard when it comes to iron lofts, it's hard to do any type of comparison. A 7 iron today might be the same loft of a 5 iron 10-15 years ago and one manufacturers 7 iron may not be the same loft as what others use. I was looking at new irons and comparing Titleist AP1 and AP2 irons and they don't even use the same lofts within their own brand. It's a game the manufacturers play so they can say their new irons are longer.


In addition to stronger lofts, a lot of brands have 1/4 in longer shafts too.

Huston55 05-27-2018 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Huston55 (Post 2050809)
My conclusions so far (note that this is based on only one lesson & 6+/- rounds using it):
  • The system does work
  • The key is calibrating your feet (learning to feel 1*, 2*, 3*, etc.)
  • My misreads tend to be over reading break
  • I purchased an iPhone app (Clinometer) to help calibrate my feet
  • It doesnít slow play if youíre conscientious
  • You can get some info on YouTube but, itís limited (by design I think)
  • I will keep using it for the near term
  • I am considering using more Pro lessons on AimPoint or, taking an AimPoint clinic

AimPoint Update:

Just played a course I havenít played in 1.5 yrs; nice course (when weíre not in a drought...they have to buy their water), just havenít been there in a while. Took me a couple of holes to get used to the greens but, steady improvement thereafter. AimPoint worked especially well on longer big curling putts that Iíd have under read using my eyes.
  • 31 total putts
  • 14 putts on the back (4 one putts)
  • 4 additional lip-outs or <6Ē miss
  • Greens true but a bit slow (9.5+/-)
  • Used Clinometer on a couple of holes to check feet & was close

Jerry1 06-03-2018 05:24 PM

I was looking at my clubs today and wondering how much I should budget for new clubs in the future. I bought the set about 5 years ago but they still seem to be very good (better than me). They are Ping G25's (the irons). I'm not worried about the driver because of course I'm going to by a new one frequently in the hope that some day they'll make a driver I can hit straight 300 yards. But back to the irons. How often do you think a set should last? What are some of the things that lead you to look at replacing irons. It wood be nice to think they can just be regripped and used for another 10 years but I'd like to hear from some experienced golfers. FWIW, I golf a couple times a week for about 6-7 months of the year. Less per week in the spring and fall. So, maybe 50 to 75 rounds a year.

RockyMtn 06-03-2018 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry1 (Post 2056631)
I was looking at my clubs today and wondering how much I should budget for new clubs in the future. I bought the set about 5 years ago but they still seem to be very good (better than me). They are Ping G25's (the irons). I'm not worried about the driver because of course I'm going to by a new one frequently in the hope that some day they'll make a driver I can hit straight 300 yards. But back to the irons. How often do you think a set should last? What are some of the things that lead you to look at replacing irons. It wood be nice to think they can just be regripped and used for another 10 years but I'd like to hear from some experienced golfers. FWIW, I golf a couple times a week for about 6-7 months of the year. Less per week in the spring and fall. So, maybe 50 to 75 rounds a year.

I replace my irons about every three years. I don't think dramatic changes in technology occur any more frequently than that. Only other reason to replace is if the grooves are totally shot, which I would be surprised playing 75 rounds per year, or if they are really dinged up!

Recently bought some Ping G700's and they were about $1000 for 5-Gap Wedge with graphite shafts. Two sand wedges (60 and 54 degree) were another $225.

I play about 150 rounds a year.

frayne 06-03-2018 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry1 (Post 2056631)
I was looking at my clubs today and wondering how much I should budget for new clubs in the future. I bought the set about 5 years ago but they still seem to be very good (better than me). They are Ping G25's (the irons). I'm not worried about the driver because of course I'm going to by a new one frequently in the hope that some day they'll make a driver I can hit straight 300 yards. But back to the irons. How often do you think a set should last? What are some of the things that lead you to look at replacing irons. It wood be nice to think they can just be regripped and used for another 10 years but I'd like to hear from some experienced golfers. FWIW, I golf a couple times a week for about 6-7 months of the year. Less per week in the spring and fall. So, maybe 50 to 75 rounds a year.

I play about the same amount as you and usually will buy new irons every five or six years or so. I am a big fan of re-gripping if not every year, every other year. Again, groove wear should be the driving factor for when you are due for new sticks. I'm 67 and playing Callaway Apex irons that I bought last year and really like them. Paid around $800 for 5-PW, steel shafts, reg. flex.

Music Lover 06-03-2018 07:31 PM

I'm curious what the walkers do when they are with a golf buddy who prefers a cart. Do you walk and let them ride alone, or do you ride with them?

My long time golf buddy (30+ rounds a year for the last 20 years) has recently been wanting to ride most of the rounds we play...he's put on a few pounds and quite often runs out of gas halfway through the back 9. I prefer to walk almost every round, with a few exceptions made for very hot days or of course in tournaments where carts are part of the entry fee.

We're playing tomorrow and riding, however, the course has a cart special which is just $5 more per round so it's not big deal. That being said, even paying full cart price isn't a deal breaker financially, it's the fact that I prefer to walk both to keep loose and to get the exercise, so losing those two benefits bugs me. Paying extra for it is just the icing on the cake... :laugh:

Maybe I'm overthinking this...is this even an issue for people?

pb4uski 06-03-2018 07:42 PM

I frequently split the difference... I make sure that I am the passenger and after I hit my approach I grab a putter (or a sand wedge or a chipper and a putter) and tell my driver.... "I'm all set" and start walking. According to my vivofit, I usually clock 3-4 miles even when I ride... perhaps more if I walk in a lot.

Jerry1 06-03-2018 07:43 PM

I've never had this issue, but I would put my clubs on the cart and walk. The driver could stay close by or get a jump on looking for the ball or whatever necessary. I golf with a guy who tends to grab a wedge and his putter once he's near the green and walk up from there. Said another way, he tends to walk in from about 150. So, if money isn't he issue, just walk and let your friend ride. You won't talk any less (or more) :)

zinger1457 06-03-2018 07:50 PM

As far as replacing irons I think the wedges should probably be the first ones to get swapped out. They tend to get used the most and under conditions (sand traps, etc) that will wear the grooves out fairly quickly. And those are the clubs that you want to have nice grooves to better control the ball around the green. A bit extreme but recall reading an article where they said Vijay Singh replaced the heads on his wedges every couple of weeks. There are groove sharpening tools out there that I've used that help but still not as good as a new wedge.


I play in different regular groups during the week, some walk, some ride, some walk 9 and ride 9. No big deal.

Dawg52 06-03-2018 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyMtn (Post 2056634)
I replace my irons about every three years. I don't think dramatic changes in technology occur any more frequently than that. Only other reason to replace is if the grooves are totally shot, which I would be surprised playing 75 rounds per year, or if they are really dinged up!

Recently bought some Ping G700's and they were about $1000 for 5-Gap Wedge with graphite shafts. Two sand wedges (60 and 54 degree) were another $225.

I play about 150 rounds a year.

I bought a set of Ping G irons earlier this year when they went on sale. Got 6-pw and a i200 gap wedge. All with *** graphite shafts. And use a Glide 56* sw. I switched to hybrids for my longer irons. I'm a geezer so might as well play like one.

I play closer to 100 rounds a year. But get in lots of 4-5 holes a day just for quick practice sessions.

Edit: not sure why I got *** on my post. All I typed was ***. Which is the brand. Oh well....

Dawg52 06-03-2018 08:31 PM

What the heck? Why is C F S all together in ***?

Big_Hitter 06-04-2018 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dawg52 (Post 2056702)
What the heck? Why is C F S all together in ***?

I suppose acronyms can be profane?

golfnut 06-04-2018 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry1 (Post 2056631)
I was looking at my clubs today and wondering how much I should budget for new clubs in the future. I bought the set about 5 years ago but they still seem to be very good (better than me). They are Ping G25's (the irons). I'm not worried about the driver because of course I'm going to by a new one frequently in the hope that some day they'll make a driver I can hit straight 300 yards. But back to the irons. How often do you think a set should last? What are some of the things that lead you to look at replacing irons. It wood be nice to think they can just be regripped and used for another 10 years but I'd like to hear from some experienced golfers. FWIW, I golf a couple times a week for about 6-7 months of the year. Less per week in the spring and fall. So, maybe 50 to 75 rounds a year.


Ping irons (at least the prior models) are almost indestructible. The G25 irons have a great reputation and if the grooves are not worn and you still hit them well, suggest you keep playing them. I do not buy into the new technology bs. It's mostly a marketing ploy to separate money from ones wallet. However, if you got the itch to buy something new, there is no helping you as it is a terminal condition suffered by alot of us golfers;D

Midpack 06-04-2018 10:14 AM

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I walk if I am alone or with others walking, but I usually take a cart for league play (required in one league but not the other). Walkers in decent shape aren't necessarily slower than two players in a cart. The walker goes directly to one ball, instead of two, and the walker can go some places a cart can't. In our league, differences in pace seem to be more related to how fast/slow folks walk (age), how good or bad their game is (lost balls, excessive shots) and especially how organized they are more than purely riding a cart vs walking. Some players are so disorganized they don't get around 18 as fast as they should whether walking or in a cart. Leaving push or motor cart in front of a green, chipping and then going back to the cart for a putter, holding up play scoring, etc. - we've all seen it.

I was surprised at how many miles you still walk with a cart (Golf Digest pic below), especially if you make a point of walking when it makes sense. I'd rather walk, but you can get some exercise even with a cart.

Music Lover 06-04-2018 04:26 PM

I rode with my friend today but got in a fair bit of walking. When I was close to the green with an approach shot I would get off the cart with the required clubs and then walk the rest of the hole. If we hit to opposite sides of the fairway we'd ride to his ball and then I'd walk to mine and he'd pick me up after he hit...most times I had already hit and started walking. On some of the par 3's I'd hit my ball and then walk to the green and let him drive the cart.

Jerry1 06-04-2018 07:37 PM

Tomorrow will be a special golf Tuesday for me. I’m going to one of the nicest courses in Michigan. Maybe not the best course in Michigan or the U.S., but for sure one of the nicest I’ve ever played. Certainly one of the most expensive. Definitely a spending money day. I’m sure we’ll be going out to a nice dinner afterwards. Hopefully the least expensive part of the trip will be the trip to the casino afterwards. Only luck and my self control will determine that. Anyway, first thing’s first - golf well. I’m not a good golfer but I’ve been breaking 100 lately. Hoping to do so tomorrow. Will give update on Wednesday.


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