Too sickened by coronavirus to continue

[Dtail]

Yes! With mug shots, parole violations, outstanding warrants..it'd be great!

Hey if supplies get tougher, you might need that kind of info.

 

[ER Eddie]

IIRC, Haha was posting infrequently even before the virus started.

Yeah, I believe I noticed his absence before the virus hit.

 

[Janet H]

"They" keep track of every member, regardless of the number of posts - and here is a link to the secret results:

https://www.early-retirement.org/forums/members/list/?order=DESC&sort=posts&pp=50

That's an interesting link! You get a blue ribbon

 

[REWahoo]

That's an interesting link! You get a blue ribbon

Thanks, they.

 

[audreyh1]

Yeah, I believe I noticed his absence before the virus hit.

Right.

 

[ERD50]

Or ERD50? Is he OK?

I'm fine, thanks. I get what the OP said, but I can't see getting worked up about it, just move on for a while. I was following the COVID stuff closely, even had a spreadsheet that I'd update a few times a day with latest death rates, but the numbers really aren't reliable, and then I just overdosed on it. It's everywhere 24-7, and almost nothing new that I need to know. So I just sort of dropped out of a lot of things on-line, don't have the radio/TV news on much.

In addition, I got involved in a hobby project, and it's really consumed me (in a good way). But if NW-Bound hasn't been posting much, at least I haven't missed too many of his insights!

I look forward to the day when we don't hear the phrase "In these uncertain times". Geez, what's uncertain? It's certain we are going to hear about COVID at least 99 times a day! What could be more certain?

I'm just not as worked up about this as many are. And two of my kids are in health care, my daughter is now a charge nurse on the COVID floor of a large hospital. She hasn't got sick, I don't think any of her co workers have either (I'll need to ask specifically).

Maybe I'll peruse the COVID forum, one bit of data I've looked for and have not come up with solid source is - how far down are traffic deaths and other communicable diseases due to isolation? Not to diminish the seriousness of COVID, but this is an offsetting effect, I'd just like to see the numbers. They should be way down.

-ERD50

 

[audreyh1]

Thanks for checking in ERD50!

NW-Bound went radio silent on 4-12-20.

 

[MuirWannabe]

Maybe I'll peruse the COVID forum, one bit of data I've looked for and have not come up with solid source is - how far down are traffic deaths and other communicable diseases due to isolation? Not to diminish the seriousness of COVID, but this is an offsetting effect, I'd just like to see the numbers. They should be way down.



-ERD50

Don’t have data. Have anecdotal story. My DS friend was a manager at nearby city collision center business. He had to lay off most of the mechanics as business rapidly declined. Then he was laid off soon after. The shutdown has downstream fingers almost everywhere.

 

[Boho]

one bit of data I've looked for and have not come up with solid source is - how far down are traffic deaths and other communicable diseases due to isolation? Not to diminish the seriousness of COVID, but this is an offsetting effect, I'd just like to see the numbers. They should be way down.

National stats are two years behind. Some state websites may publish monthly data.

Here's a random stat:

"The DOT Commissioner also noted that there have been no pedestrian deaths on the road in over 40 days, which is the longest period without a pedestrian fatality since NYC started keeping records."

 

[martyp]

Maybe I'll peruse the COVID forum, one bit of data I've looked for and have not come up with solid source is - how far down are traffic deaths and other communicable diseases due to isolation? Not to diminish the seriousness of COVID, but this is an offsetting effect, I'd just like to see the numbers. They should be way down.

-ERD50

Here in Thailand they recently had a day with the fewest traffic deaths ever recorded. It is definitely having the effect of reducing traffic deaths here. No reason the same isn't true everywhere in the world.

 

[Ready]

Kind of funny, but I took almost a year break from this forum because I found that every time I came back to it the same topics were being rehashed over and over again. So when we opened up the discussion to COVID I was actually relieved to be able to talk about something other than Withdrawal Rates, when to take SS, Do I have enough money...blah blah blah.

 

[Lakewood90712]

Are you folks suggesting the mods tell Porky to treat discussions of the coronavirus the same way he treats discussions of politics? That would be interesting...

Yes

 

[JoeWras]

I took a bit of a break and am dipping my toes back in. Probably like OP, the fact that COVID was leaking everywhere, and taking the oxygen out of the other threads, caused me to pause. My future looks will definitely include blocking out the containment forum. The fever is still very high there (or actually 'here' for this thread I guess).

I'm still a bit cautious. There are some good threads outside of the containment area that have been helpful. Like, the OLED thread - memories of the good old days.

But people are still really touchy and sniping at each other. There's another good thread about bonds and cash reserves which highly interests me, but as the moderator said: "You can disagree without being disagreeable." Still too much snippy behavior. Hopefully everyone can chill a bit.

I think I'm back. Now I need to change my avatar.

 

[ShokWaveRider]

But people are still really touchy and sniping at each other.

One just ignores them for the most part, or at least I have learned to, they are the same old players, probably have nothing better to do, we all know who they are.

 

[scrabbler1]

I was already never reading most threads to begin with. So, adding a (growing) bunch more threads to those I am already not reading is not a big deal. I click on "New Posts" to see what new threads have been updated since my last visit, then skip over most of them. Between that and clicking on "User CP" to see the list of threads I have posted to which have had a recent, unread reply, I have enough to view (which ain't much, anyway).


As to broader coverage of COVID-19, I ignore most of it. I don't watch my local news station much any more because that's all it is now. I can get my local weather forecast from its website. Even PBS Newshour, the one news show I regularly watch, is becoming more unwatchable.


But what bugs me the most is when COVID-19 stuff pre-empts regular, non-COVID-19 (or, at least partially non-COVID-19) programs. I posted in another thread a few days ago about how CBS Sunday Morning, a 90-minute show, has become a 30-minute show with the last hour replaced by live coverage of NYC Mayor DeBlasio yapping about the city's response to it (and it is shown on 4 other channels!). [BTW, watching the show on line is a crummy alternative.] Or how COZI-TV, a cable-TV channel has had 2 weekday morning hours replaced by NBC's Today Show even though NBC is already airing it at the same time!


I hope Mdlerth returns here. I am not at that point yet, and doubt I will ever get there. But I understand the sentiments.

 

[ivinsfan]

I was already never reading most threads to begin with. So, adding a (growing) bunch more threads to those I am already not reading is not a big deal. I click on "New Posts" to see what new threads have been updated since my last visit, then skip over most of them. Between that and clicking on "User CP" to see the list of threads I have posted to which have had a recent, unread reply, I have enough to view (which ain't much, anyway).


As to broader coverage of COVID-19, I ignore most of it. I don't watch my local news station much any more because that's all it is now. I can get my local weather forecast from its website. Even PBS Newshour, the one news show I regularly watch, is becoming more unwatchable.


But what bugs me the most is when COVID-19 stuff pre-empts regular, non-COVID-19 (or, at least partially non-COVID-19) programs. I posted in another thread a few days ago about how CBS Sunday Morning, a 90-minute show, has become a 30-minute show with the last hour replaced by live coverage of NYC Mayor DeBlasio yapping about the city's response to it (and it is shown on 4 other channels!). [BTW, watching the show on line is a crummy alternative.] Or how COZI-TV, a cable-TV channel has had 2 weekday morning hours replaced by NBC's Today Show even though NBC is already airing it at the same time!


I hope Mdlerth returns here. I am not at that point yet, and doubt I will ever get there. But I understand the sentiments.

The very thing you mention about news saturation is driving a lot of hysteria and finger pointing, and to what end?

You put these government officials on live TV pound them with question after question ( some of the questions provocative on purpose) and sure as heck its off to the races with second guesses and "look what they said" .

Anyone who thinks these news people aren't using a fine tooth comb on the answers to get their 5 minutes of Twitter fame or next raise is naïve.

 

[Cassius King]

+1

As Audrey points above, anyone can go to the Covid forum and from the forum drop down menu select “Ignore Forum” then you wouldn’t have to see any threads or posts related to Covid.

Thank you!! This is great info. All I needed. Thanks again!

 

[Bir48die]

I don't believe the OP is stressed out about the COVID threads just that they don't like that it's a popular topic. Plus they feel have to inform us that they are leaving the forum seemingly until such time as the COVID content diminishes. You see this on forums all the time where people don't just quietly take a break but have to let everyone know it and why. What's the point? Make the rest of us feel badly for being interested in COVID and all its actual and potential implications for the world in general and us as individuals? Especially when it's so easy just to block the COVID forum itself? Quite passive-aggressive IMHO.

Ah, Freud. Velly interesting

 

[eytonxav]

Are you folks suggesting the mods tell Porky to treat discussions of the coronavirus the same way he treats discussions of politics? That would be interesting...

And Covid was responsible for shutting down a couple of pork processing plants, although it appears they will be opening back up

 

[gwraigty]

But what bugs me the most is when COVID-19 stuff pre-empts regular

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I hope Mdlerth returns here. I am not at that point yet, and doubt I will ever get there. But I understand the sentiments.

+1

How about those COVID-19 "commercials"? "We're all in this together...At home together." I'd rather watch a regular commercial. Never thought I'd say that.

 

[austin944]

You put these government officials on live TV pound them with question after question ( some of the questions provocative on purpose) and sure as heck its off to the races with second guesses and "look what they said" .

The public wants solid answers, and unfortunately the scientists cannot tell us all of the correct answers. So the politicians are stuck with pretending that they know the answers so they don't look ignorant.

First we are told that the masks won't protect us, and now we're told to wear a mask!

How is it decided that a certain level of risk is acceptable in not wearing a mask, like during pre-pandemic days during the regular Flu season? Is there an objective standard, like with a certain number of people affected, then you must wear a mask?

 

[gwraigty]

So the politicians are stuck with pretending that they know the answers so they don't look ignorant.

It's not working.

 

[Chuckanut]

But what bugs me the most is when COVID-19 stuff pre-empts regular, non-COVID-19 (or, at least partially non-COVID-19) programs. I posted in another thread a few days ago about how CBS Sunday Morning, a 90-minute show, has become a 30-minute show with the last hour replaced by live coverage of NYC Mayor DeBlasio yapping about the city's response to it (and it is shown on 4 other channels!). [BTW, watching the show on line is a crummy alternative.] Or how COZI-TV, a cable-TV channel has had 2 weekday morning hours replaced by NBC's Today Show even though NBC is already airing it at the same time!

Good grief! The Today show on two stations at once.

Can't the FCC ban that as cruel and unusual punishment?

 

[austin944]

You seem to have it all figured out for yourself and your “rights” but you have completely missed the half of the equation about how any of us could easily be an asymptomatic spreader who gets other vulnerable people sick. What about others’ rights to not be infected by you? One might also call it having manners.

Your argument applies to the regular Flu season during pre-pandemic days. It applies to people who drive cars, go on airplanes, trains, all of which can crash and cause injury/death to innocent people.

Do you want to be reminded of your own mortality every day by wearing a mask and practicing social distancing? Is that any way to live? At some point we have to start living again as human beings, enjoying life to the fullest and not being afraid.

 

[Chuckanut]

The public wants solid answers, and unfortunately the scientists cannot tell us all of the correct answers. So the politicians are stuck with pretending that they know the answers so they don't look ignorant.

First we are told that the masks won't protect us, and now we're told to wear a mask!

How is it decided that a certain level of risk is acceptable in not wearing a mask, like during pre-pandemic days during the regular Flu season? Is there an objective standard, like with a certain number of people affected, then you must wear a mask?

I see your point. People don't have much data to go on. Do they?

IIRC, masks do not protect the wearer. They protect other people from the wearer. And it is not absolute protection, just a bit more protection from what I understand. Presumably, sneezing your CV virus infected particles into a mask is safer than sneezing them into the air others around you breath. But, it's not as safe as sneezing them into Kleenex at home with no other people around. At least that's what I think masks are about. I only know what I hear on TV and read on the Internet.

On another thread I complained that my governor glossed over what I thought was a good question from the press - What data are you using to make your data driven decisions? I am happy to say that yesterday in his CV19 press conference he went over the data they are looking at, where we currently stand, and what we need to see in the future. Alas, while we have avoided the deadly spike upwards and flattened the curve, there is no significant decrease in new infections or deaths. Of course, we are looking at the results of actions taken two weeks ago, so maybe things are better. Or maybe they are worse.