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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
This was a bad error on their part. If they don't forget about it, you could reasonably ask them to make you whole.
The employer has a duty (IRS DOL?) to be sure that only "qualified" funds are in the qualified tax advantaged plan. The issue with Fidelity would not really be their concern, but Fidelity only wants qualified money in tax advantage rollover accounts.
.... It's the employer's problem, not yours.
It was classified as a bonus. However, in reality it was severance. I had not previously received a bonus from this company. This was the first time.
When I was separating from the company I was offered the $20K in return for signing a mutual release of liability. So I would say it was clearly intended to be a severance payment.
When the company was getting ready to issue the payment, the HR director called me up and asked me if I would like to have the $20K deposited in to my 401K as a bonus. It was not something I requested nor gave any thought to, but since they offered to do it, I said “sure, that sounds great”. I just assumed they knew what they were doing since they were the ones that offered it to me. I never personally requested it.
.... This seems to be one of those calls...
My advisory client (age 54) did a direct rollover of $13,000 from an old 401K to his IRA in August 2019.
In January 2020, client received a letter from his old company that $4,000 of this amount failed the non-discrimination testing and must be returned to him.
The full $13,000 was invested in his IRA account back in August 2019 and still remains invested there.
The client received two Form 1099R's: One for $9,000 showing Code G (Direct Rollover), and a second one for $4,000 showing Code E (Distributions Under Employee Plans Compliance Resolution System).
The client must advise the IRA custodian that 4000 was not eligible for rollover and must be treated as an excess regular IRA contribution. The IRA Custodian will then calculate the earnings allocated to the 4000 and distribute the 4000 plus the earnings to the client. As such, only the earnings will be taxable and subject to penalty, but this tax and penalty must be reported on client's 2019 return because the excess IRA contribution was made in 2019. There is no double tax, as long as the IRA custodian understands this is the removal of an excess contribution.
The only tax on the 4000 is from the 1099R coded E and there is no penalty on this. The earnings will be taxed and subject to penalty. For the return of the IRA contribution, the 1099R will be issued next January with code P1. P means taxable in 2019, not 2020.
Sounds like they are trying to self-correct the error.... but one aspect of self-correction is that they "Make any necessary corrections to put the participants in the position they would have been in if the error had not occurred."
https://complianceadministrators.com/qualified-plan-correction-programs/
In your next letter to the company's attorney you might say that if you don't get a resolution that is acceptable that you will file a complaint with the IRS that the plan did not properly correct its error... that should get their attention and a response I would think.
What's the year on the 1099-R you received from Fidelity today? That's the return that's affected, so if it's a 2020 1099-R and you haven't filed yet, you might not need to amend.
It's 2020. So they are reclassifying the income as 2020 income? Is that legitimate?
Yes, I think it's allowed. It's similar to if you are in a plan that fails non-discrimination testing and they have to return some of your contributions. That money is taxed as income in the year you receive it, not the year you deferred it.
I think this is starting to make sense.
When you left in 2017, you were due $20k of severance. Severance pay can't be contributed to a 401k. Your employer (HR person) erred by asking you if you wanted that pay deferred, you agreed not knowing that the severance could not be deferred and the employer then erroneusly allowed the $20k to be contributed to your 401k.
In early 2020, your employer notified you that their error had been detected as a result of an audit of their 401k plan.
In the meantime, you had rolled over your employer 401k, including the $20k, to an individual IRA at Fidelity.
The company was unresponsive to your queries on the issue and notified Fidelity of the overcontribution and based on that Fidelity issued you a 1099-R for $21k with a distribution code E.
What you might do if you have a lot of your tax return together is to input the $21k of income from the 1099-R with the code E and see how it changes your taxes and if the software includes any 6% overcontribution or 10% early withdrawal penalties... and compare the overall tax impact to what it would have been if you had recognized that $21k of income in 2017... and see if the damage is enough to chase your former for.
And then course, get the $20k plus growth out of the account. Your OP mentions $20k and the 1099-R is $21k... is the difference the growth or just a difference in rounding?
That pretty much sums it up. What still doesn’t make sense to me though is if Fidelity made the decision to send me the 1099-R showing a distribution, why didn’t they actually send me the distribution?