My son wants to me to help pay for his very expensive wedding? How much?

My son says that is the tradition and all his other friends had the same arrangement. [/B]
It may be a tradition among his circle of friends, but traditionally the bride's parent pay for the reception.

In this traditional view, you should be paying for and even planning the rehearsal dinner (ahem, budget control). You can also pay for the honeymoon as well as help with what he's obligated to pay for -- officiant, license, bride ring(s), his attire, wedding party flowers, etc. In some parts of the country you may be obligated for the bar bill and DJ/band at the reception (not in mine!). Now of course, these traditions go back centuries, and have evolved in many circles.

Just set a budget you can afford. They can scale appropriately. I also suspect the Bride's family set a reasonable budget just because their knew the extravagance of their daughter, and shifted the problem to you.
 
I too married my wife who was from a fairly affluent family in Switzerland. So I sort of understand what your son is going through. Thinking back to our wedding thirty years ago, we paid about $35K for everything. That was a lot of money back then. We cut the number of guests to 80 people to limit the expenses. We had a very nice wedding to this day my parents still talk about how nice it was. We both worked and paid for our own wedding as my wife wanted total control over the event. Our parents also gave us money as gifts to help cover the costs. I would talk to your son about cutting the number of guests down to something more reasonable like 100 to cut the expenses.
 
Sounds like this is when you tell your son that when you were his age, you walked [-]five[/-] ten miles to work every day.
Uphill in both directions. Snow year round.

I would not take kindly to financial pressure from anyone. I would offer to help the young couple work within their budget. Over $100,000 for a wedding is ridiculous in my opinion.
 
Offer what you can afford and no more.

I'm not even sure I agree with going that far. The OP seems to suggest that he can afford the $40k but does not think it is right.

I have no kids so maybe I can't completely empathize but I think if my child were trying to manipulate me into paying so much based only on his claim that it is the tradition among his friends I think I would need to have a talk with him. I have never heard of such nonsense.

I will say that if I had a daughter it would be different since it is more traditional for the bride's parents to pay for the wedding. Maybe that is me being sexist. It's also possible the bride's parents are reasonable people and decided $50k was their limit for a suitable wedding and the bride just wants more. I would view this as a major red flag!

Or just ask your son how much of a dowry she comes with. Because that is traditional too. If he says none then pressur ehim to find a new bride that comes with a big dowry.

Sadly, I don't see this ending well no matter what you do.
 
Now I am wanting to see the bride's engagement ring. It must be lavish!
 
I thought that the tradition was for the groom's family to pay for the rehearsal dinner. Give enough for that.
 
If you read this forum enough, I can't imagine you would be surprised with the overall gist of comments.
Like others have stated, can your son truly afford the potential expensive lifestyle which might be coming later?
 
Of course you shouldn't cough up 40k.
If you are looking for any other answer than this, you have come to the wrong forum.
 
$90,000.... FOR A WEDDING.... OH HELL NO... Thats INSANE...
We just helped host our Daughters wedding... there was over 160 guests, We rented a state park amphitheater and shelter, Smoked 4 Boston butts and 20Lbs of chicken, both for the rehearsal dinner and taco bar at the reception. She made most of her own decorations, we done all the cooking and set-up/clean-up. Camped out with a bunch of family and guests over the course of 5 days... Cost us about $1500...
His parents asked about the rehearsal dinner, and we told them to just give them some money towards their honeymoon since most the folks that came were our friends and family from out of state. Plus it was also for the reception.
 
While I think the tradition of the bride's parents paying for most/all of a wedding is outdated, I also think spending a fortune on weddings is a ridiculous waste of money.

Spending close to 6 figures on a wedding? Absolutely insane.
 
A year and a half after starting medical school, DH and I got engaged. It was a long distance engagement, but we had known each other for years. DH was going to college and working. School was paid for by a private loan from a rich relative. I borrowed what I thought I would need for school and living expenses, but managed to not spend about 10% of the loan money. We used that extra money for our wedding. Of course this was 1980.

My parents paid for the flowers and also gave me use of a car during my residency.
 
"Son, we think spending $40k on a wedding is a waste. Instead, we'll keep the money and invest it so that your inheritance will be worth a whole lot more."
 
Never mind whether the amount is "too much," "ridiculous," etc. What bothers me is the notion of pressure from the bride's family. Terrible way to start off a relationship with the other in-laws - presuming to squeeze you for dough that you don't want to spend and perhaps cannot afford. What will these presumptuous people try on you next?...

From the OP's original (and so far only) post, it is not clear if the pressure is coming from the bride's family. All it says is that the brides parents gave her $50K for the wedding. Then there is an ambiguous "they" about inviting gets and needing more - but that could well be the bride and the OP's son doing that on their own. The brides parents may well have said "here's $50K, that is your budget, figure it out", which the betrothed couple seems unwilling to do.

I would not be so quick to cast the bride's parents as the "villains" without further clarification from the OP as to who exactly is the source of the "pressure".
 
The brunch is for everyone else, all of the guests who have traveled from out of town and spent the night. It's often held at the hotel where everyone is staying.
Yep, for the out of town guests. In our case, the bridal couple attended too, before leaving for their honeymoon. Weddings these days are a 3 day event for many. The idea that the bridal couple actually leaves town right after the wedding, is seldom seen in our neck of the woods. There is often an after the wedding celebration attended by the couple and their friends.

We also paid for our son and DIL's Rehearsal Dinner. Both events were attended by all of the out of town guests plus the bridal party and some other close friends and family members who were local.

We also offered to pay for the liquor at the wedding reception, a common practice these days, but the bride's parents thoughtfully declined. We made up for the disparity by writing a significant check as a wedding gift to balance out the costs.

These days, the concept that the bride's parents foot the bulk of the bill is becoming less common. Why did that trend ever start in the first place? It's more common for the parents to split the cost, or if the couple is well established, for the costs to be split 1/3, 1/3, 1/3. Our experience is that the families get together before the planning begins to establish a budget and reach a mutual agreement on the financial responsibilities of each of the 3 groups; parents and engaged couple. That would have been the point where the OP could have established their position and if the bride's parents wanted to spend more then they would be expecting to pay more. I would think that the OP and his/her son would have had a general understanding about their contribution limit before the engagement even occured, so that the son's expectations were realistic.

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My son wants me to help pay for his very expensive wedding. But how much is enough?

Even though I am semi-retired and trying to be financially independent there are still many unexpected expenses and family demands for me to spend a lot of my money.

My son- who is in his mid-20s- has found his dream woman and has announced his engagement. His fiancee is a very cultured woman who grew up in a wealthy family and expects the best the world has to offer. Her parents have given her $50,000 for the wedding, reception, and honeymoon and they are planning an incredible event and honeymoon. They expect to invite about 250 of their closest most personal friends and relatives. The wedding and reception will be at a very exclusive Country Club and the honeymoon will be 5 Star.

$50K won't pay for the event and they need more money. My wife and I are under extreme pressure to pay up to another $40K for the event. So we can closely match his fiancee's parents' contribution.

The issue really comes to extreme pressure to match the contribution of the brides' parents. My son says that is the tradition and all his other friends had the same arrangement. He has gone to about a dozen weddings in the last five years and all of them were very expensive affairs, so he feels a need to keep up with his friends.

Would you as an early retired parent feel pressured to help pay for a fancy wedding and honeymoon if the fiancee's parents paid a large amount also?
What has happened is that her parents raised her to expect the best, instead of working hard for it. I don't know all the facts, but here is what we went through 2021/2022.

Daughter and son-in-law work hard, and have been through tough times when they hit adulthood. But both persevered. After he asked for permission, being in their very early thirties, they were mature enough to recognize the situation. She did all the planning, and tried to hold to $50K for 250 persons. Everything was in a spreadsheet, and I watched that grow. TBH, for a formal wedding $50K will not buy what you think, at least in our area.

All of the costs grew to 89K, but total paid by everyone was about 75K. Savings there was due to people dropping out due to COVID fears, and we ended up with about 150. He offered and paid for the band, his mother paid for the dinner, and mother also kicked in a few thousand extra. My daughter paid for some things, so us, the parents, paid about 60K.

I trusted my daughter to take care of the decisions, and it turned out well given 10 degrees at a hotel on a Jersey beach.

My daughter let us know that it was now a thing that others chipped in, and the entire bill would not be for the parents. So there is a newer reality that differs from most of the comments I'm reading here. For reference, in our HCOL there are sweet 16 and mitzvahs that approach 100K.

So you should take into consideration expectations, but of course you should push back, and do what the in-laws did. Set a budget and gift that amount. You see what the other parents did. First move, draw a line, and push the rest of the problem on young adults, who immediately want a bail-out from you.

No one answered your question at the end. Yes, I would feel pressured, and that would mean I'd gift $20K, and let them know we'd help make harder decisions. Instead of that, maybe I'd pay for pictures and music, or similar.

If my son comes to me with a proposition similar to yours, I'll deal with the specifics. Maybe her parents live on the northeast border of Ujraine and need help. But if they live in Manhattan and father runs a hedge fund, I have no empathy for the costs.

If you and son can sit down and discuss the situation rationally, it is probably a good idea.
 
"Son, we think spending $40k on a wedding is a waste. Instead, we'll keep the money and invest it so that your inheritance will be worth a whole lot more."


The first part is what my now-deceased FIL told us before we got married, except the number was 5k. He wanted us to elope and offered to give us that sum towards a down payment on a house. My DW picked the big wedding; I would have picked the elopement and the down payment. The wedding was a great party, but it took us a few years of paying rent and scrimping/saving to come up with the down payment on our own.
 
If I read between the lines of the original post correctly, most of the 250 potential guests are coming from the Bride's side. If I'm right, all the more reason for the OP to not feel obligated. OP's son cites a supposed new tradition, but he cannot choose to selectively ignore that other long tradition of the Bride's family paying for (or at least the bulk of) the wedding. Finally, as has been stated multiple times the OP should nicely tell his son what amount he feels comfortable contributing; no explanation as to what he can afford is needed. Just the simple "we are comfortable paying $XXX."
 
The brides family has 250 guests.

The number at rehearsal dinner should be a LOT less than that! Based on my son's recent wedding, I'd guess about 20-40? With a moderate dinner at say $25/person; it should be in the ballpark of $1,000. DS and DDIL had friends with a food truck business cater a BBQ dinner. The wedding was in Maine last month.
 
That's a hard no for us. DW and I were married by the local Justice of the Peace almost 40 years ago. Total cost $25 plus the cost of the marriage license.

Our kids were told to expect a $10k gift when they married or purchased a home. They could use that money however they chose. We made very clear that we thought expensive weddings were a foolish waste.

Inflation increased the gift to $20k. Daughter was married in our house by a friend with only immediate family present. Instead of an expensive wedding, they built a home.

We shall see what happens with our Son who just purchased a house with his fiance and plans to marry next year.
 
Good point, Jolly. My ire can easily shift itself to the betrothed couple, if they are the ones exerting the pressure. (Then again, who raised one half of that couple? The "pressure" has to be coming from somewhere).

From the OP's original (and so far only) post, it is not clear if the pressure is coming from the bride's family. All it says is that the brides parents gave her $50K for the wedding. Then there is an ambiguous "they" about inviting gets and needing more - but that could well be the bride and the OP's son doing that on their own. The brides parents may well have said "here's $50K, that is your budget, figure it out", which the betrothed couple seems unwilling to do.

I would not be so quick to cast the bride's parents as the "villains" without further clarification from the OP as to who exactly is the source of the "pressure".
 
It's probably best for the future bride and her family "to know now", that your DS doesn't have access to that kind of money. (his or yours). Maybe they are wealthy enough to just not care and pay for everything, now and in the future.
 
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I paid 20k towards my daughter's wedding. It will likely be more like 25k-30k when all said and done. For my son, I paid 3k for the rehearsal dinner. My son and his wife probably paid half and her father paid half. I am retired. I think it's ridiculous the amount spent on weddings but to each his own. Good luck and enjoy the wedding.
 
How 'bout pulling the brides parents house up on Zillow. Then say "WOW!! Look Johnny her parents place is worth 3X ours. Now you can understand why we can only afford $15k."

Adjust the numbers to meet your purse strings.
 
His fiancee is a very cultured woman who grew up in a wealthy family and expects the best the world has to offer.

Ha. Poor guy. Good luck with that.

You are under no obligation to pay for his extravagance.
 
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...Can your son really afford this girl?

Boy, that's exactly what I was thinking. This looks like a trainwreck.

I'm with the others. Grooms parents are only responsible for the rehearsal dinner IME. At our daughter's wedding the grooms parents held a wonderful rehearsal dinner and also sprung for the open bar... a canoe full of beer and wine on ice and a bartender for a couple hours.

Figure out what that would cost, round it up and offer them a check. This is their first test in living within their means and they look to be failing the test but there is time to get back on track.

When we got married my dear MIL was a woman of modest means and generously gave us $1,500 which covered the meal at the local Elks Club where our wedding reception was held and we paid for the rest. It sounds like the brides parents are sending them a message with a hard limit, and OP should do the same.
 
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