audreyh1
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11.74% for 2025 on a ~55/45 portfolio.
I think a lot of people are reporting portfolio return not portfolio net increase. At least that is what I'm doing.Really doesn't sound as good as you guys
+1. Yep. While my returns that is reported on Fidelity said +18.12%, actual portfolio increase is only 12% because we spent quite a bit of the money (and paid taxes).I think a lot of people are reporting portfolio return not portfolio net increase. At least that is what I'm doing.
What’s the difference? Do you mean the return after withdrawals are taken into account - that is the true return.I think a lot of people are reporting portfolio return not portfolio net increase. At least that is what I'm doing.
The difference is that portfolio returns are calculated based on the part of the portfolio that remains year to year, which is the true return. When you sell and withdraw the investments, that reduces the total value of the portfolio. The increase / decrease year-to-year is not the same as portfolio return.What’s the difference? Do you mean the return after withdrawals are taken into account - that is the true return.

Portfolio returns is what the portfolio returns. Net increase is the increase after withdrawals.What’s the difference? Do you mean the return after withdrawals are taken into account - that is the true return.
You don't have to. I was just explaining why your return number may be smaller than other return numbers. Different people use different definitions. That is okay. It is just nice if people are clear about the information they are providing.So I have to amend my post and subtract out spending....that is a tough one as I sold some gold and silver. I am just going to guess here then and say total portfolio "return" was 15.6% (not counting spending withdrawals)
Differences are OK IMO too. Some people are still working and contributing large amounts on a monthly basis also.You don't have to. I was just explaining why your return number may be smaller than other return numbers. Different people use different definitions. That is okay. It is just nice if people are clear about the information they are providing.
Complicated too, even with that. Consider a person who chooses to take SS at 62 vs someone else the same age, same portfolio, same investments and expenses but delays to 70. They are going to have quite different numbers, especially if SS is a decent chunk of their income.Differences are OK IMO too. Some people are still working and contributing large amounts on a monthly basis also.
When I do YTD I'm all in expenses included to come up with a percentage. I use Moneychimp.
OK - I see it the opposite. Since I remove funds on Jan 2 first thing before any market activity, everything after that is the YTD portfolio return.Portfolio returns is what the portfolio returns. Net increase is the increase after withdrawals.
If you have already the removed the funds and then use that as the baseline, the numbers will be the same for portfolio return or increase/decrease in value.OK - I see it the opposite. Since I remove funds on Jan 1, everything after that is the YTD portfolio return.