46M, not sure which stage of FIRE I'm at, and also facing a big decision - help!

Thanks for the response!

I haven't been keeping up too much with the ACA news, but aren't the subsidies going away or up in the air or something like that?

As for the SS, I actually did just cross the required 40 quarters threshold earlier this year, as even though I've only worked 8 full time years, I had various part-time jobs throughout the year that got me enough to get over the 40q mark. I haven't even really looked into that part since I figured it wouldn't amount to much, but if the min really is close to $1k, that's certainly not insignificant - I'll definitely have to look more into that.
The enhanced ACA subsidies that were added during Covid are going away but the original subsidies that the ACA has always had are not going anywhere. If your MAGI is less than 400% of the poverty level then you'll still get some subsidy. If you can manage your income to be around $25K then you'll be in the sweet spot but you'll still get something up to a little over $60K/yr.
 
Welcome to the forum!

From what you say, it sounds like there are no real downsides to moving in with your parents.

FIRECalc can tell you whether it makes sense to take the $160k now, the $25k at 55, or the $40k at 62. You'd run the second two options by putting the pension in under "Other income/spending" and of course taking the $160k out of your portfolio. Make sure the "Inflation adj" check box is un-checked if the pension won't be COLA'ed.

If you haven't already read this post Some Important Questions to Answer Before Asking - Can I Retire? , I recommend it. The FIRECalc homepage also tells you you need to include your best estimate of future taxes (all kinds) in your expenses.

You can still get an ACA premium subsidy (tax credit) in 2026 if your MAGI will be less than 400% of the 2025 Federal poverty level. The finance buff has some great posts:

Regardless whether you will qualify for subsidies, if you will not receive retiree health insurance and will depend on the ACA until Medicare, you should take a look on your state's ACA exchange website (or Healthcare.gov if your state doesn't have an exchange) to see what plans would be available to you at what cost. Be aware that the premiums increase with age. Might be a good idea to view premiums for older ages to get a feel for how big an effect this is.
 
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Welcome to the forum!
I second the recommendations to run Firecalc using different scenarios, along with answering the questions in the Early Retirement FAQs as mentioned previously.

Moving into a multigenerational household can benefit everyone. The important thing is to make sure you all have good, open communication and ability to resolve issues well, along with understanding of how household duties and expenses will be shared.

Both of our kids have moved in and out of our home at various times.
As long as the communication is good, it worked out very well.

A pension is part of the three legged stool for retirement, along with social security and investments. I would recommend not withdrawing the full amount.
But do run firecalc with all of the scenarios and make your own decision.

Many folks here are very knowledgeable and will help with financial/tax/ insurance issues.
Feel free to ask. They have helped me tremendously over the years.
 
The minimum monthly amount of SS payment is less than $100 per month, and not $1000. The special minimum amount in 2025 of 11 years worked for low income workers is $53.50.
 
You may want to look into purchasing your parents' house on a contract for deed or some other method. Instead of giving them your rent $ each month you would be giving them a mortgage payment. There is a 5 year look back on assets if your parents need government assistance for long term care. If they don't own the house, the government can't use the home's value in the calculations. Obviously consult with your sister and legal/financial professionals before pulling that trigger. Good luck.
 
You may want to look into purchasing your parents' house on a contract for deed or some other method. Instead of giving them your rent $ each month you would be giving them a mortgage payment. There is a 5 year look back on assets if your parents need government assistance for long term care. If they don't own the house, the government can't use the home's value in the calculations. Obviously consult with your sister and legal/financial professionals before pulling that trigger. Good luck.
He is only paying homeowner insurance and property tax, and not rental. It is half of what he is paying for his rent. As a parent, I would never sell my home away to my child or to redeed to my child. There is something comforting about the security of having title in my name. Buying the home will also reduce OP's retirement investments. No dice either way.
 
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The enhanced ACA subsidies that were added during Covid are going away but the original subsidies that the ACA has always had are not going anywhere. If your MAGI is less than 400% of the poverty level then you'll still get some subsidy. If you can manage your income to be around $25K then you'll be in the sweet spot but you'll still get something up to a little over $60K/yr.
oh sweet, I had no idea - I'll definitely be looking into this!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, what counts towards MAGI are taxable brokerage withdrawals (capital gains only) and traditional ira distributions, but not any roth ira distributions?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, what counts towards MAGI are taxable brokerage withdrawals (capital gains only) and traditional ira distributions, but not any roth ira distributions?
Taxable brokerage account dividends too. So even if you never trade, never rebalance, never sell and never withdraw, and automatically reinvest all dividends... those dividend distributions are nevertheless taxable events. What's the S&P 500 dividend rate these days.. 1.3%? So, every $1M in a taxable account --> $13K added to your MAGI. It adds up quickly.
 
Taxable brokerage account dividends too. So even if you never trade, never rebalance, never sell and never withdraw, and automatically reinvest all dividends... those dividend distributions are nevertheless taxable events. What's the S&P 500 dividend rate these days.. 1.3%? So, every $1M in a taxable account --> $13K added to your MAGI. It adds up quickly.
Good point, I forgot about the dividends! I suppose that when I'm retired, that in my taxable I'd just turn off automatic dividend reinvestment and use that as income.
 
Taxable brokerage account dividends too. So even if you never trade, never rebalance, never sell and never withdraw, and automatically reinvest all dividends... those dividend distributions are nevertheless taxable events. What's the S&P 500 dividend rate these days.. 1.3%? So, every $1M in a taxable account --> $13K added to your MAGI. It adds up quickly.
All your income counts towards MAGI, except qualified contributions to retirement accounts and medical savings accounts (I'm sure of this for HSAs and believe it's true of the other kinds as well).

This includes interest income, dividend income, Social Security benefits, pensions, tax-exempt muni bond interest, capital gains from anything you sold, and of course earned income.
 
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Yah.

MAGI is your 1040 AGI, then start adding things in (such as tax-exempt muni bond interest).


From healthcare.gov:

The figure used to determine eligibility for premium tax credits and other savings for Marketplace health insurance plans and for Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP). MAGI is adjusted gross income (AGI) plus these, if any: untaxed foreign income, non-taxable Social Security benefits, and tax-exempt interest.
  • For many people, MAGI is identical or very close to adjusted gross income.
  • MAGI doesn’t include Supplemental Security Income (SSI).
  • MAGI doesn't appear as a line on your tax return.
 
Welcome to the forum!

From what you say, it sounds like there are no real downsides to moving in with your parents.

FIRECalc can tell you whether it makes sense to take the $160k now, the $25k at 55, or the $40k at 62. You'd run the second two options by putting the pension in under "Other income/spending" and of course taking the $160k out of your portfolio. Make sure the "Inflation adj" check box is un-checked if the pension won't be COLA'ed.

If you haven't already read this post Some Important Questions to Answer Before Asking - Can I Retire? , I recommend it. The FIRECalc homepage also tells you you need to include your best estimate of future taxes (all kinds) in your expenses.

You can still get an ACA premium subsidy (tax credit) in 2026 if your MAGI will be less than 400% of the 2025 Federal poverty level. The finance buff has some great posts:

Regardless whether you will qualify for subsidies, if you will not receive retiree health insurance and will depend on the ACA until Medicare, you should take a look on your state's ACA exchange website (or Healthcare.gov if your state doesn't have an exchange) to see what plans would be available to you at what cost. Be aware that the premiums increase with age. Might be a good idea to view premiums for older ages to get a feel for how big an effect this is.

I totally forgot to reply to about this after my reply was blocked for too many posts in 24 hours!

Thanks for all the great info!

Part of the reason I even started this thread is that I ran my numbers through Firecalc and it kept saying 100% success no matter how I fudged the numbers. Even when I put my annual spending as $65,000 (an amount I've never even come within $10,000 of in my life) it still said 100%. I just thought that couldn't be right. But maybe it is...

Inspired by your post I went to check out the ACA marketplace in my state, and it was a lot easier and more streamlined than I'd anticipated. When I put in a $50,000 income, even when I put my age as 60, my monthly premiums were only a couple hundred bucks, after the subsidy. This is a number I could definitely afford.

This is making me feel much more confident about pulling the trigger, should I choose to do so.

Thanks again!
 
Too funny. I read the thread title and thought this was another “ 46 Million do you think I can retire “ type post.
 
I read this thread, it seems like you’ve not included healthcare expenses (premiums, out of pockets) in your annual expenses. If so, you should.
 
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