63 YEAR OLD COUPLE LOOKING TO RETIRE

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Hi all,

Wife and I are looking to retire permanently and we are hoping to get others experience that made the jump! Below is a list following Gumby's outline. Just two of us, no kids.

EXPENSES FIRST: We have roughly $2,700 amount of mandatory expenses per month. $820 of that is our condo HOA which covers everything but electric, $600 for groceries, $223 for various insurance (auto/umbrella/condo), and the rest is for small monthly bills. Our medical insurance, including parts B & D will covered by our last government employer. We also have VA medical for me, CHAMPVA for her. This amounts to almost zero out of pocket each year. Far as long term care should it be needed I have the VA, and for my wife CHAMPVA & Medicare coordinate to a certain point - after that we would just pay cash.

Both sets of our parents are gone, and we have no kids. That said, we want to leave $'s to a niece, and the local animal shelter (we have been donating to the shelter for about 25 years now).

We have thought about buying a condo on the other side of the country, but are not sure if we will. We know of complex we like on the ocean in FL, and it is about $700k to buy into there. Low HOA fee. We have two cars that are in extremely good shape, with very few miles. Don't see any big trips, or events where we will spend a lump sum other than perhaps the condo.

Our income breaks down as follows: Wife: $58k pension, me $60k pension - each with 2% COLA. I have a untaxed, COLA adjusted federal pension of $48k in addition. We are currently getting $100k in dividends/interest each year from our investment accounts - about $50k is taxable.
We both just signed up for SS, and will get our first payment in January 2025. Our SS is low because we were in 'safety' jobs for many years that did not contribute to SS. Between us we will only get $20k/year from SS.
We have about $4.3M invested. About $1.3 in bonds, $500k in a high interest (4%) Schwab MM account, and the rest ($2.5M) in conservative ETF's.

Not sure how many years we have. I'm an orthopedic mess from the military, my wife is fairly healthy but age has caught up with her a bit. That said, we do exercise four day a week with weights. She walks 2.5 miles a day six days a week. I walk 2 miles a day seven days a week - that may be coming to an end as the pain is getting to be a bit too much.

Our gov't pensions go to each other upon death and will pay the exact same amount. The federal pension I have would be reduced by about half, but still be untaxed.

We are the type of people who don't buy flashy cars, or the nicest house on the block. We are more the 'millionaires next door' that lead a quite life. We are this way because we both feel that it is best to be over-prepared, and live only on a portion of our income.

Curious what people's opinion would be on yearly spending, longevity of what we have built, and reallocation of investments. If anybody has advice regarding chronic orthopedic pain put that in too!!

Thank you in advance
 
Congratulations. You have lots of assets, super-nice pensions and health care taken care of and the basic expenses you shared are tiny. Of course you can retire!

If you want to understand your spending potential, there are various tools you can use to assess things.

FireCalc is quick and rough, taking your assets, income and spending into account and look at historical trajectories of what would have happened in the past with such numbers. You would play with your spending until the chance of failure vs size of legacy meets your desires. But it doesn't take into account taxes or help you develop detailed plans for things like withdrawal amounts, tax minimization, Roth Conversions, etc.

The other end of the spectrum is a detailed tactical tool like Pralana that can calculate maximum spending, make Roth Conversion plans, analyze the optimum order of accounts to withdrawal from, supports tax efficient asset location (bonds preferentially in tax deferred) and has the important elements of the federal tax code in it and takes a shot at state taxes, though it ain't Turbotax.
 
"..... Don't see any big trips, or events where we will spend a lump sum other than perhaps the condo....." I don't give specific financial advice here. But I will suggest that the desire to take a big trip, or trips, could very well change once you are fully ER'd with lots of lesiure time.
 
You can spend all your income streams including your dividends and be just fine. You could even spend more if you want. It really depends on how much you want to leave behind. The main risk seems to be inflation could erode a couple of your pensions.

I didn't see your ages. If you are in your 60's, you could probably spend all in $300k/yr if I understand your numbers correctly.
 
...Curious what people's opinion would be on yearly spending, longevity of what we have built, and reallocation of investments. If anybody has advice regarding chronic orthopedic pain put that in too!!

Thank you in advance
I'm a little surprised that you are asking. You have plenty. Have you run your situation through FIRECalc?

I ran it with a $4.3m 60/40 portfolio, $58k and $60k pensions starting in 2025, $20k of SS starting in 2025 and used the investigate tab to solve for safe spending at 95% success over 35 years. Result was over $300k. Do you think you can limit spending to $300k annually?

At that level I think you can slip in a few big trips and a flashy car if you want to.
 
I'm a little surprised that you are asking. You have plenty.
This.

Think about reallocating time spent worrying about how to be over prepared and live on only a portion of your income toward thinking about how spending more money can make your life better instead.

Go a little crazy and demand FIRECalc show 100% success for your spending level. Use the investigate options to require your portfolio never drop below a reserve level to cover LTC and a bequest to the animal shelter through age 100. If that spending level is still higher than you're comfortable with, consider you might find some joy in working on getting more comfortable with it :)

A good place to start might be above and beyond medical care. Is there anything you could pay out of pocket for that would help with the orthopedic pain issues? Recovery won't get any easier as you age, so if you can take care of some things now that will make life much better...
 
I'm a little surprised that you are asking. You have plenty. Have you run your situation through FIRECalc?
Indeed. The big question is, whether one feels ready to alight from the hamster-wheel. Is there any conceivable circumstance, in which one would ever need to get back on? Does one feel adequately "satisfied", that there's no more philosophical urge to keep turning the wheel? If the answers are respectively "yes", "no", and "yes", then we should retire... even if the finances look shaky. If the answers are the opposite, then we should keep working, even if we're 90-year-old billionaires.
 
I'm a little surprised that you are asking. You have plenty. Have you run your situation through FIRECalc?

I ran it with a $4.3m 60/40 portfolio, $58k and $60k pensions starting in 2025, $20k of SS starting in 2025 and used the investigate tab to solve for safe spending at 95% success over 35 years. Result was over $300k. Do you think you can limit spending to $300k annually?

At that level I think you can slip in a few big trips and a flashy car if you want to.
Plus the “untaxed COLA adjusted federal pension of $48k in addition”. So maybe more like $350k a year.
 
Retire, buy the FL condo, up the spending, and enjoy what you’ve earned! Great job!
 
I'm a little surprised that you are asking. You have plenty. Have you run your situation through FIRECalc?
I'm not. We have plenty of these "I have $4-5MM but not sure I can retire" posts.

Flieger
 
Yes, you can retire now. You really need to start BTD as soon as possible including on that condo in FL. Otherwise your portfolio will grow faster than you can spend.
 
Thank you for the replies. Out of 'fear of being poor' I may have over-prepared for retirement. Will look into the suggestions. Can't see that we would ever spend $300k/year, but we might go up to $100k/year. Have considered buying my wife a sporty Mercedes as a surprise for putting up with me for 25 years. :)
 
Thank you for the replies. Out of 'fear of being poor' I may have over-prepared for retirement. Will look into the suggestions. Can't see that we would ever spend $300k/year, but we might go up to $100k/year. Have considered buying my wife a sporty Mercedes as a surprise for putting up with me for 25 years. :)
A nice sporty gift would be a fine gesture, and a testament to your success and preparedness to retire. Much more economical (and less hassle) than a vacation house, RV or the like. I wish that more folks at a certain stage of life, considered such cars!
 
You look ready to retire, jump in, the waters fine!
 
one thing i would add that you may likely already be on board with. (think of it as a health investment :) ) make it a point to find some regimen that matches your abilities *and you like doing* and maintain it. I don't do anything super crazy mostly biking about 10 miles 4-6 days/wk and some tai-chi. but over the last 10 years, i can see i'm doing better that most of my contemporaries (at the brew pub meetups) that don't do as much in that dept.
 
You are seriously good to go. I retired at age 60 with no pension, no income, no SS yet and half your savings.

I own an airplane, a sports car, my nice house and have minimal expenses.

What I've found is that I don't spend much on anything. I don't travel, don't commute anymore, and don't eat out much because I'm home and have time to cook, clean, etc. Retirement has been absolutely wonderful. With my health issues, I don't expect to keep my plane well into old age, so there is savings there too. Fuel is about $2k per year for the plane and hangar about $3600.

You have enough to spend down your savings, with no interest, at $133K yr over the next 30 years, well into your 90's.
 
one thing i would add that you may likely already be on board with. (think of it as a health investment :) ) make it a point to find some regimen that matches your abilities *and you like doing* and maintain it. I don't do anything super crazy mostly biking about 10 miles 4-6 days/wk and some tai-chi. but over the last 10 years, i can see i'm doing better that most of my contemporaries (at the brew pub meetups) that don't do as much in that dept.
In one's 50's and more so in their 60's, you start to see differences in body structure and very likely in health issues between the ones who stay active and ones who don't.
 
Of course you can retire. But I am puzzled by why folks ignore your comments about health and longevity. That's a different take on numbers. If a move to FL will boost your health and sense of well-being (with good medical care available), make the move!

Best, Kilgore
 
At 63, which isn't really Early Retirement, and all the savings and assets you have. I am also surprised you are asking this group...I retired at 56 with enough for me..which is far less than what you have at 63. Best decision I have ever made.. Do it now, before it's late retirement! Enjoy!!
 
If you have that much pain from your time in the military then you should have a decent disability percentage. I don't see that listed in the income information. Not that you need the extra money but no reason to leave it on the table when you have earned it. You can spend many times what you do now and never have to worry about money. Your niece is going to be very rich one day. Retire ASAP and live it up while you are still healthy enough to enjoy it.
 
Retire now and spend whatever it takes to help with the pain. No idea if that means hiring a pt to work you out everyday. No idea if that mean special shoes, inserts, massage therapist, you have the means to live life to the fullest without pain do it.

I would start not only spending on the new car but anything else that makes your life comfortable. house without stairs? House with handicap accessible shower. Help with cleaning said house weekly if not 2x a week. Hiring a yard guy unless you want to.

Have meals prepped and delivered. Travel wherever you want at the level you want. If you don't fly first class or private your heirs will.

I'm sure others on here will have ideas on how to BTD. You have more than enough to donate to charity a big gift. You can also talk to a lawyer and set up a perpetual donation that generates a lifetime income your charity you have been supporting.

Anything you want. the world is your oyster! Congrats and have fun
 
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