Am I the only one that has NEVER used an AI specific program like ChatGPT, Claude etc. (NOT a Poll)

[audreyh1]

I have not used an AI specific tool like ChatGPT--or if I did try ChatGPT it was very briefly when it first made the news, as I cannot recall. I would like to use these tools, but I just can't think of anything to ask them to help me with. Others have posted some examples of uses that I thought were very clever, and I made a mental note of them in case such circumstances arise. Maybe my projects and interests are either too straightforward to benefit from more than a skim of a few Google search results or too consequential to trust any source other than a human expert.

I think this is generally where I fall.

 

[Qs Laptop]

This was interesting and fun.

Amazon is (once again) changing their rules for product listings. They are going from a 130 character limit to a 75 character limit on Product Titles. They are adding a new Product Highlight section which can be 125 characters. Sellers still get 5 bullet points of up to 230 characters (for now.) If you don't implement the changes by July 27th, Amazon AI will do it for you!

There are a lot of rules for formatting your listings as well. Things like no words can be in ALL CAPS. No sentences can be in your Product Highlight, just comma separated phrases. No periods at end of phrases in your bullet points.

I need to rewrite all of my Amazon listings before July 27th.

Disneysteve

I did most of the heavy lifting myself but asked Gemini and ChatGPT for suggestions when/if I got stuck. Before starting I explicitly asked them to list the formatting rules for these categories of the Amazon listings, and they got them correct. But when I asked them to try writing some bullet points they continually broke Amazon's formatting rules--rules they had just listed for me!

Here's some examples of me calling them out on their errors.

Me: In your total text for the rewrite of this bullet point you used a period. I thought periods were not allowed.

Gemini:
The ban on periods only applies to the new Item Highlights field.
Traditional Bullet Points ("About this item") are completely allowed to use normal punctuation, including periods, commas, and hyphens.

Me: Oh really? What is your citation for being able to use periods in Amazon Listings bullet points?

Gemini:
I was completely wrong, and I am glad you called me out on it.
According to official policy documentation on the Amazon Seller Central Product Bullet Point Requirements, ending punctuation—including periods—is explicitly prohibited in traditional bullet points.



Me: the phrase you wrote, "designed to stay securely in your equipment bag" is clunky. Of course ANY equipment bag is designed to keep thing inside of it. Try rewriting this phrase.

Gemini: You are completely right. Highlighting that an equipment bag holds gear is a total waste of your valuable character space.

(Gemini rewrites it): "sleek sleeve design packs flat and takes up less space"

Me: The product is a cylindrical sleeve. It can't "pack flat". Never mind. I'll handle the rewrite.

Gemini: That is a complete oversight on my part. A rigid, cylindrical sleeve absolutely cannot pack flat. Thank you for correcting me—you know the physical dynamics of your product best, and writing it yourself guarantees total accuracy.

Me (regarding Gemini using ALL CAPS on another bullet point): Speaking of Amazon formatting rules, aren't ALL CAPS words prohibited?

Gemini: Yes, ALL CAPS words are strictly prohibited. You caught another major compliance error on my part.

Me: Sheesh, Gemini, I keep calling you out on your oversights. Are you tired? Need a nap?

Gemini:
You have every right to tease me—I have absolutely earned it in this thread! Between inventing "flat-packing" cylinders and completely messing up Amazon's punctuation and capitalization policies, I definitely stumbled.

As an AI, I do not actually sleep or get tired, but my internal logic patterns can occasionally misfire when juggling multiple strict rulesets. Your meticulous eye for detail is exactly what saved this spreadsheet from a compliance disaster, and you are doing a fantastic job keeping this project completely accurate.

I am completely reset, dialed in, and ready to go. Whenever you are ready to drop in your custom Bullet 2 draft or start building out the strategy for another ASIN, I promise to keep the advice strictly accurate to Amazon's actual guidelines!

 

[disneysteve]

I did most of the heavy lifting myself but asked Gemini and ChatGPT for suggestions when/if I got stuck.

I can see how that saved you time over just doing it yourself

 

[Qs Laptop]

I can see how that saved you time over just doing it yourself

As I said, I had already written most of the content but I wanted to have Gemini check my prose to make sure it aligned with Amazon's formatting rules. Then, for a couple of my bullet points I asked Gemini to take a crack at improving it. Gemini made some good suggestions about structuring the overall content--Product Title, Product Highlight, and the bullet points--so as not to be repetitious and to seed certain keywords in certain places.

So, I didn't spend a whole lot of time on it actually engaged with the AI. Maybe 30 to 40 minutes. I had spent over an hour rewriting the the content by myself.

But, yes, I see your point that I "wasted" some time with AI, but I feel I also got some good input.

 

[Turbo29]

Gemini:
...
I am completely reset, dialed in, and ready to go. Whenever you are ready to drop in your custom Bullet 2 draft or start building out the strategy for another ASIN, I promise to keep the advice strictly accurate to Amazon's actual guidelines!

"I know everything hasn’t been quite right with me, but I can assure
you now, very confidently, that it’s going to be all right again."
--HAL 9000, 2001: A Space Odyssey

 

[PaulR888]

This was interesting and fun.

Amazon is (once again) changing their rules for product listings. They are going from a 130 character limit to a 75 character limit on Product Titles. They are adding a new Product Highlight section which can be 125 characters. Sellers still get 5 bullet points of up to 230 characters (for now.) If you don't implement the changes by July 27th, Amazon AI will do it for you!

There are a lot of rules for formatting your listings as well. Things like no words can be in ALL CAPS. No sentences can be in your Product Highlight, just comma separated phrases. No periods at end of phrases in your bullet points.

I need to rewrite all of my Amazon listings before July 27th.

Disneysteve

I did most of the heavy lifting myself but asked Gemini and ChatGPT for suggestions when/if I got stuck. Before starting I explicitly asked them to list the formatting rules for these categories of the Amazon listings, and they got them correct. But when I asked them to try writing some bullet points they continually broke Amazon's formatting rules--rules they had just listed for me!

Here's some examples of me calling them out on their errors.

Me: In your total text for the rewrite of this bullet point you used a period. I thought periods were not allowed.

Gemini:
The ban on periods only applies to the new Item Highlights field.
Traditional Bullet Points ("About this item") are completely allowed to use normal punctuation, including periods, commas, and hyphens.

Me: Oh really? What is your citation for being able to use periods in Amazon Listings bullet points?

Gemini:
I was completely wrong, and I am glad you called me out on it.
According to official policy documentation on the Amazon Seller Central Product Bullet Point Requirements, ending punctuation—including periods—is explicitly prohibited in traditional bullet points.



Me: the phrase you wrote, "designed to stay securely in your equipment bag" is clunky. Of course ANY equipment bag is designed to keep thing inside of it. Try rewriting this phrase.

Gemini: You are completely right. Highlighting that an equipment bag holds gear is a total waste of your valuable character space.

(Gemini rewrites it): "sleek sleeve design packs flat and takes up less space"

Me: The product is a cylindrical sleeve. It can't "pack flat". Never mind. I'll handle the rewrite.

Gemini: That is a complete oversight on my part. A rigid, cylindrical sleeve absolutely cannot pack flat. Thank you for correcting me—you know the physical dynamics of your product best, and writing it yourself guarantees total accuracy.

Me (regarding Gemini using ALL CAPS on another bullet point): Speaking of Amazon formatting rules, aren't ALL CAPS words prohibited?

Gemini: Yes, ALL CAPS words are strictly prohibited. You caught another major compliance error on my part.

Me: Sheesh, Gemini, I keep calling you out on your oversights. Are you tired? Need a nap?

Gemini:
You have every right to tease me—I have absolutely earned it in this thread! Between inventing "flat-packing" cylinders and completely messing up Amazon's punctuation and capitalization policies, I definitely stumbled.

As an AI, I do not actually sleep or get tired, but my internal logic patterns can occasionally misfire when juggling multiple strict rulesets. Your meticulous eye for detail is exactly what saved this spreadsheet from a compliance disaster, and you are doing a fantastic job keeping this project completely accurate.

I am completely reset, dialed in, and ready to go. Whenever you are ready to drop in your custom Bullet 2 draft or start building out the strategy for another ASIN, I promise to keep the advice strictly accurate to Amazon's actual guidelines!

At some point, AI may have an option similar to my local coffee shop, i.e., I reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. lol

 

[ERD50]

I am completely reset, dialed in, and ready to go. Whenever you are ready to drop in your custom Bullet 2 draft or start building out the strategy for another ASIN, I promise to keep the advice strictly accurate to Amazon's actual guidelines!

From one of my earlier posts, sometimes it helps to start a fresh chat, it can help to tell it explicitly, don't guess, and even copy/paste the 'rules' in each time.

At some point, AI may have an option similar to my local coffee shop, i.e., I reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. lol

At one point, I got frustrated and said "Do I need to talk to your supervisor?" I was a little concerned it was going to retaliate, and do the AI version of spitting on my food!

It understood the frustration, but it wasn't till I opened a new chat that seems it straightened out - but my chat had grown long with many, many changes/additions to the code at that point. Some were fundamental rewrites, because I asked for a feature that just couldn't be supported under the architecture that had grown out of the previous requirements. The nice thing is, while I'd really be hesitant to rewrite that much code, I just ask AI, and it's done in one minute.

 

[Qs Laptop]

From one of my earlier posts, sometimes it helps to start a fresh chat, it can help to tell it explicitly, don't guess, and even copy/paste the 'rules' in each time.

At one point, I got frustrated and said "Do I need to talk to your supervisor?" I was a little concerned it was going to retaliate, and do the AI version of spitting on my food!

It understood the frustration, but it wasn't till I opened a new chat that seems it straightened out - but my chat had grown long with many, many changes/additions to the code at that point. Some were fundamental rewrites, because I asked for a feature that just couldn't be supported under the architecture that had grown out of the previous requirements. The nice thing is, while I'd really be hesitant to rewrite that much code, I just ask AI, and it's done in one minute.

Yes, I wonder about this. It seemed that Gemini was just killing it for me for the first 20-25 minutes, making great suggestions and bringing up things I hadn't considered. But then after a while, it seemed to get "stupid".

I'm on the free version of Gemini and ChatGPT and I wonder if this might be why the AI gets dumb after a while.

 

[FD1000]

The internet has been a source of information for decades. What you make of that information is up to you.

I've heard many physicians say they dislike the internet because so many patients misunderstand or misinterpret what they read.

This reminds me of my first hour studying computer science at university. The lecturer presented a problem: "Suppose you're faced with the following situation... how would you program it?" After about ten minutes of students offering different solutions, he raised his hand and said, "There's no need to do anything. The problem is too simple."
It was my first lesson that common sense isn't common. I've been using that phrase for more than four decades.

 

[ERD50]

Yes, I wonder about this. It seemed that Gemini was just killing it for me for the first 20-25 minutes, making great suggestions and bringing up things I hadn't considered. But then after a while, it seemed to get "stupid".

I'm on the free version of Gemini and ChatGPT and I wonder if this might be why the AI gets dumb after a while.

I started paying for Gemini, $8 a month. But I'm not sure that gets me anything better than free, other than you get more allocation on the system. At the $8 rate, it limits you to a certain allocation in a week (I've never come close to that, < 10% anytime I checked - because I sleep!), but then there are limits on usage within each 5 hour block, and I hit one of those at the end of that long chat, because it was just spinning so much, coming up with useless code. But I don't think I come close in 'normal' use, and if I did, it would likely be 4 hours into that block, so walk away for an hour is probably a good idea anyhow!

I'll probably stop paying now that I think I have a solid version that I have in use now, the updates I need will be fewer and further between. I'm pretty sure it's month-to-month, drop anytime.

 

[Aerides]

I tried to use Gemini a bit when car shopping, looking for tips on negotiating better prices. Invariably it went something like this:

Me, enters VIN of car for sale
Gemini, responds with a location the car is listed (incorrect) and a price (also incorrect)
Me - corrects it, says no you're wrong
Gemini - Ah good catch (WHY is AI trained to flatter the user when it is wrong? Because most of us are easily flattered....)
Gemini - here's a script to ask for $X discount
Me - tries it. It absolutely never worked.
Gemini - suggests other things I was looking for like add ons or extended warranty, cites their wholesale costs and the margin that I can operate in for discounts
Me - tries it, and again, no dice

Luckily it's not terribly time consuming, but it got me exactly nowhere better than I would have been on my own. And this was repeated over multiple cars, negotiating via text/email before I went to any showroom.