Asset Allocations - Percentages vs Dollar Amount

AA is expressed in percentages because the point of the AA is to manage risk level of the portfolio. It doesn't matter how much money is involved. An 80/20 portfolio has a different risk level than a 30/70 portfolio.

Once you're retired, and maybe before that, you may choose to adjust your AA because of the actual dollar amounts. "When you've won the game you can stop playing" applies here. No need to continue with the high risk portfolio is you have way more money than you will ever need in your lifetime.

Whether or not you talk about dollars or percentages really depends on what point you are addressing.
It doesn't matter whether you're young or old, have $100,000 or $10 million, or use a different asset allocation. In the end, the discussion always comes back to performance and, for many investors, risk-adjusted returns.

Using your example, suppose your portfolio grows to $5 million and you retire. At that point, you may decide to reduce risk. The moment you start thinking about balancing return and risk, you're discussing risk-adjusted returns.

That's why talking only about dollars earned or portfolio income never tells the whole story. Performance and risk-adjusted performance provide a common framework that allows investors to compare strategies, learn from one another, and have meaningful discussions about investing.

Likewise, asset allocation (AA) is not the entire story. AA is most useful when discussing long-term buy-and-hold indexing strategies. Once you begin making tactical changes, using actively managed funds, or investing in alternative strategies, asset allocation alone becomes much less informative.

Why are risk-adjusted returns so important?

Because they help investors understand how efficiently returns are being generated. If you can achieve the same return with lower volatility, you've improved your portfolio. Better yet, if you can achieve higher returns while reducing volatility, you've improved both performance and risk management.

That's the ultimate goal: make more while taking less risk. The better you become at doing that, the better your investment results can be.

See SPY vs QLENX,QNZNX in the last 3 years (link). See SD, and Sharpe, but also watch Sortino=down SD.

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For me it's all about time horizon..When I was younger and thought I might need to tap into savings before I died I wanted to play it safe..Now I doubt I will need any of it and plan to leave in in my Living Trust..I expect to be 100% equities by the time I die..
 
I think looking at dollars, and as stated above multiples of expenditures, has definite value from a gut-check perspective. I remember reading a comment on the Humble Dollar a few years ago. Mr. Clements replied to someone and stated at some point he decided he needed a number (I think it was $1MM or $1.5MM) in cash/fixed income. Sort of like a floor but that number gave him some comfort. I think if you truly drilled into it he was looking more at multiples of expenses but he expressed it in absolute dollars. It rang true at the time.
 
One thing following this thread has made me start thinking about is that I may be pretty far out on the risk curve.

My returns have been pretty good but perhaps that is just a streak of luck.

2022 (26%)
2023 39%
2024 37%
2025 23%
2026 YTD 2%

I saw it mentioned that if your returns are higher than they should be it is probably because you are taking on a lot of risk. I am pretty concentrated and heavy in technology stocks. I run a bar-bell strategy with less than 40% equity and a big whack of fixed income, so the above numbers understate the equity returns.

I think I need to give some serious consideration to reducing my risk profile.
 
This topic isn't really my thing. But to pile on, should you use the median or the mean?
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I don't really know but here is one interesting conversation that we had with our free FA at Fidelity, who is also a CFP and VP. She looked at our portfolio and said that she was glad that we were at 85% equities because if we had asked for her advice, she would have recommended 85% equities allocation as well. She said that she was recommending her clients to go with 85% equities.
 
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I stated similar in my OP. That percentages can be used for other analysis. The point of my post though was that people get myopic with percentages which by themselves only tell part of the story. It’s what value those percentages are applied to that ultimately determine value.

When I used (key phrase “used to”) post on Reddit. You’d see someone say I made a 144% return YTD. Then you find out their account is $100.
I guess I didn’t get your point, no worries.
 
You’d see someone say I made a 144% return YTD. Then you find out their account is $100

A speedometer tells you how fast you're going.
A tachometer tells you how fast the engine is turning.

You can sometimes infer the opposite from the other, (if I'm doing 60, my RPM should be X) but they are mostly measuring different things.
 
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Intuitively, nearly all numbers I evaluate are delt with in terms of percentage (of change). Even my 950 trek from FL to OH is considered in terms of amount traveled vs amount remains. In financ,e it only makes sense as it is the only standardization for performance change. Dollars are all relative , i.e. 10k portfolio yield 20% for a 2k gain is much more beneficial than a 5% gain on 40k in terms of performance. I find percentage much more motivational as well.
 
The only asset class where I care about dollar count is cash. The rest, percentage is best. I started out having cash as one of my buckets, but I might not do that if I set it up starting fresh today. The reason: that asset class is for spending, and you don't need the same X% for spending on a $Y million portfolio vs a $2Y portfolio.
 
I don't really know but here is one interesting conversation that we had with our free FA at Fidelity, who is also a CFP and VP. She looked at our portfolio and said that she was glad that we were at 85% equities because if we had asked for her advice, she would have recommended 85% equities allocation as well. She said that she was recommending her clients to go with 85% equities.
Now there’s a planner I wouldn’t trust. Every individual’s situation is different. Age, assets, goals, timeline, etc. To say she’s recommending 85% to everyone is ridiculous.
 
Now there’s a planner I wouldn’t trust. Every individual’s situation is different. Age, assets, goals, timeline, etc. To say she’s recommending 85% to everyone is ridiculous.
Free = about what it is worth. For the past couple years, she said Fidelity's position was that a recession would be coming in 2024/2025/sometime in 2026. Her tune has changed this time around. We are happy with 85% equities, now and into the future.
 
My free FA at Fidelity is very valuable to me and even moreso to my spouse if I'm not around even though they don't hold any of her assets. Free can be misleading since he is well compensated (I assume) from the fees imbedded in their products. Free is simply the base level of support with higher level service available for a fee. He does not appear to be motivated to sell stuff. I agree one size fits all is not appropriate and if it's 85% crypto stonks that might be a problem.
 
My free FA at Fidelity is very valuable to me and even moreso to my spouse if I'm not around even though they don't hold any of her assets. Free can be misleading since he is well compensated (I assume) from the fees imbedded in their products. Free is simply the base level of support with higher level service available for a fee. He does not appear to be motivated to sell stuff. I agree one size fits all is not appropriate and if it's 85% crypto stonks that might be a problem.
The most important thing is if they are a fiduciary at all times. The last thing you want is an advisor who makes money by selling you things that may or may not be appropriate for you.
 
My free FA at Fidelity is very valuable to me and even moreso to my spouse if I'm not around even though they don't hold any of her assets. Free can be misleading since he is well compensated (I assume) from the fees imbedded in their products. Free is simply the base level of support with higher level service available for a fee. He does not appear to be motivated to sell stuff. I agree one size fits all is not appropriate and if it's 85% crypto stonks that might be a problem.
crypto is not equities.
 
I assume that she only gets clients of decent size of investments since she is the head of that branch and VP, hence her recommendation of 85% in equities. We got assigned to her when we transferred over investments to her. We were asked about portfolio size of the transfer before the FA assignment. It goes back to the size of portfolio to determine how aggressive one can be or not.
 
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I think looking at dollars, and as stated above multiples of expenditures, has definite value from a gut-check perspective. I remember reading a comment on the Humble Dollar a few years ago. Mr. Clements replied to someone and stated at some point he decided he needed a number (I think it was $1MM or $1.5MM) in cash/fixed income. Sort of like a floor but that number gave him some comfort. I think if you truly drilled into it he was looking more at multiples of expenses but he expressed it in absolute dollars. It rang true at the time.
This rationale is how I've justified not diversifying a concentrated ESOP share position whose value ballooned over the past two years due to the AI bubble. I've mentally divided my portfolio into two pieces: the "cake" is 30x annual living expenses where holdings must be at least as conservative as the optimum AA for my life expectancy, and the "icing" is everything else and its AA can be whatever.

Currently my cake is a mix of T-bills, MMFs, bank CDs, muni bond funds, and a higher than ideal ZIRP broker cash balance. The bloated ESOP plus my 401ks, tIRA, and taxable brokerage accounts compose the icing. My thinking is if all of my equity holdings go to zero, I still won't have to go back to work as long as I don't play again. So 100% non-diversified equity in icing is high in performance risk but low in FIRE risk.
 
Now there’s a planner I wouldn’t trust. Every individual’s situation is different. Age, assets, goals, timeline, etc. To say she’s recommending 85% to everyone is ridiculous.
Hear, hear!

That the FA is a Fidelity employee is very surprising to me. Really sad.
 
I was thinking the same thing.

I assume she is not a fiduciary.
I've had a free excellent fiduciary FA at Schwab for over 20 years. The ones from Fidelity were less impressive.
Fiduciary is better than not but doesn't guarantee anything.
Any FA that charges a % of someone portfolio doesn't put their clients interest first.
Catch 22, if your investment knowledge is below average, you can't tell if your FA is excellent. If it's above average, you don't need a FA.
 
… I've mentally divided my portfolio into two pieces: the "cake" is 30x annual living expenses where holdings must be at least as conservative as the optimum AA for my life expectancy, and the "icing" is everything else and its AA can be whatever.
I like that analogy - “cake and icing”. I think two other names for this strategy is safety-first and liability-matching.

I agree with this approach … have enough guaranteed safe income to safely cover expenses … so even if market goes down significantly and stays there for an extremely long unprecedented time period, there is no issue. And invest the remaining in equities (and real estate) for growth (and inflation) … so assuming the market continues to perform historically well, the portfolio continues to grow.
 
She is a CFP, which makes her a fiduciary.
Yes and no. There are loopholes to that. A CFP can be a dual registrant which could mean they act as a fiduciary in some instances but not in others. It's important to ask your CFP if they are a fiduciary 100% of the time or if they are a dual registrant.
 
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