California is indeed an odd place....

[Original Wally]

DW bought an EV late last month. BMW i4.

California REQUIRED that she sign the Catalytic Converter ID Etching Waiver >>> There IS NO CATALYTIC CONVERTER on an EV.

Sigh.

 

[Koolau]

Does the Electrical input jack say "unleaded electricity only?"

 

[MC Rider]

LOL. We are far from being the only state with stupid laws and regs.
Everyone has 'em. Sign zee papers and move on.

 

[Flyfish1]

That's really very funny ...left coast is indeed a strange world. I like to visit occasionally but only for brief periods. No offense , but I would never live there. However, as a recent escapee from the most corrupt state in the nation (NJ) I can't really point fingers at anyone.

 

[Route246]

I was born and raised in NorCal and have never lived anywhere else so my perspective is very narrow. Having travelled much of the world and all of the country I can tell you that the climate in NorCal cannot be topped anywhere in the world with the exception of a few places on the Mediterranean.

We are suffering from a heat wave now, highs slightly above 100 on extreme days but these heat waves are usually short-lived before climate change averaging started happening. Additionally, mid-summer overnight temps are almost always below 70. Winters are pretty mild and the past few years there have been few days when frost has stuck but we are seldom having daytime highs below the low 40s.

I believe we pay the highest taxes in the country, except perhaps Manhattan, but since I've lived here my entire life I don't know any other way.

 

[disneysteve]

We’re in NJ. I don’t recall specifics but we’ve also had to sign off on things that were completely irrelevant because that’s the law.

 

[braumeister]

My favorite has always been the law forbidding anyone from carrying an ice cream cone in their back pocket. The idea was that it was used by horse thieves to entice a horse to follow them home, licking the ice cream.
This has been attributed variously to Kentucky, Alabama, and Georgia, but I kind of doubt it is still on the books.

 

[MC Rider]

but since I've lived here my entire life I don't know any other way.

I grew up in Chicago area. IL had plenty of corrupt Pols and loonies. Probably still does but I moved away and don't pay attention anymore. It does not have to be a big city to have loonies and crooks. They are everywhere.

 

[Koolau]

I claim the Honolulu Light Rail as the dumbest State Move ever, but YMMV. At a cost of $10K per Island citizen before it's finished, I think it's running about 3000 riders per day at $3 each. I'm not sure that covers the cost of the electricity it uses - let alone capital cost - and forget empl*yee costs.

It basically goes from nowhere to nowhere and then you take a bus. At least it supposedly offers a nice view although I've never ridden it.

 

[MC Rider]

At least it supposedly offers a nice view although I've never ridden it.

Give it ride. Try the scenery. I guess it is a BTD for you, like it or not.

 

[tutan]

I really wish we could make a left turn at intersections even after the left turn arrow goes off. Most states I’ve been to seem to allow that.

 

[ProspectiveBum]

I really wish we could make a left turn at intersections even after the left turn arrow goes off. Most states I’ve been to seem to allow that.

I understand the frustration, but at the few left-turn yields in my area (rather than the majority of intersections which are left-arrows), there are a higher number of accidents and near-misses. Not sure if drivers are used to the arrows and just turn their brains off or what?

It was eye-opening visiting Tucson, AZ, where they allow TWO lanes of left turners to go if there’s no on-coming traffic. We witnessed at least 1 pretty bad accident in that scenario in the few days we were there.

 

[rk911]

DW bought an EV late last month. BMW i4.

California REQUIRED that she sign the Catalytic Converter ID Etching Waiver >>> There IS NO CATALYTIC CONVERTER on an EV.

Sigh.

Bureaucratz must be obeyed! (sigh)

 

[rk911]

That's really very funny ...left coast is indeed a strange world. I like to visit occasionally but only for brief periods. No offense , but I would never live there. However, as a recent escapee from the most corrupt state in the nation (NJ) I can't really point fingers at anyone.

I'll see your NJ and raise you an Illinois!

 

[audreyh1]

Odd bits in every state.

 

[wrigley]

I grew up in Chicago area. IL had plenty of corrupt Pols and loonies. Probably still does but I moved away and don't pay attention anymore. It does not have to be a big city to have loonies and crooks. They are everywhere.

South Side Chicago born and raised. Joining the military moved me away and over the past 46 years I have only been back to visit.

Mike

 

[Koolau]

Give it ride. Try the scenery. I guess it is a BTD for you, like it or not.

Heh, heh, I actually thought about doing that - just for fun. It's a whole $3 per ride. I would catch a bus across the street from my condo, ride about 15 miles with transfer at Ala Moana and then Bus to the rail at the Aloha Bowl. At that point, I'd transfer to the rail and ride to the end in Kapolei. Then I'd pay another $3 to reverse the process. I'm guessing the whole trip would be around 3 to 4 hours. Or I could drive to Halawa station at the stadium and just take the rail from there. That would probably save an hour or more.

So far, I just don't seem to have enough interest to take the time for it. Even when it was free for the first week, I think they only got about 10K riders per day. WAY short of break even (well break even is like 50% of the cost - however you figure that.)

 

[rk911]

South Side Chicago born and raised. Joining the military moved me away and over the past 46 years I have only been back to visit.

Mike

South Side Chicago born then my folks escaped and my sis and I were raised in the burbs. Donna and I married in 1970 and for a minute or two we talked about moving to southern CA but decided to stay put. We're still in the Chicago burbs but in a county that actually denies pre-trial release to accused felons. As a result our crime stats are much lower than the city, We're very, very glad we did not move to CA.

 

[explanade]

I was born and raised in NorCal and have never lived anywhere else so my perspective is very narrow. Having travelled much of the world and all of the country I can tell you that the climate in NorCal cannot be topped anywhere in the world with the exception of a few places on the Mediterranean.

We are suffering from a heat wave now, highs slightly above 100 on extreme days but these heat waves are usually short-lived before climate change averaging started happening. Additionally, mid-summer overnight temps are almost always below 70. Winters are pretty mild and the past few years there have been few days when frost has stuck but we are seldom having daytime highs below the low 40s.

I believe we pay the highest taxes in the country, except perhaps Manhattan, but since I've lived here my entire life I don't know any other way.

If it was just warming, it would be easier to adapt.

But it threatens reliable water supplies and makes the region more vulnerable.

As long as you can afford the cost of living though, it's hard to move away.

 

[Koolau]

It's funny how we all make allowances for the places we love. No one place has a monopoly on crazy policies or crazy weather or crazier people, I suppose. Naturally, YMMV.

 

[AudiDudi]

Graduated High School in 1970, joined the US Navy 6 weeks later and left CA for good after boot camp. My mother passed in 2008 so I have no reason to even visit now. I suppose it's something like the frog in the pot of water with the fire under it - the tiny changes just keep adding up unnoticed and no way could I move from Montana to CA now.

 

[Dtail]

I'll see your NJ and raise you an Illinois!

You could move to Mississippi.

 

[Walt34]

You could move to Mississippi.

I dunno, West Virgina is a strong competitor for that prize....

 

[Dtail]

I dunno, West Virgina is a strong competitor for that prize....

Haha, but it sounds like you live close enough to the Wash DC border, so you don't get to "enjoy" the full effect.

 

[isisdave]

I couldn't find anything about a California requirement for waiving catalytic converter etching. However, I have heard of dealers pushing that as a purchase option, like extended warranty, clearcoat, undercarriage protection, etc. Is it possible it was a leverage thing by the dealer to intimidate the purchaser into buying another overpriced "service"?

That said, we moved to Indiana three years ago after sixty+ years in California (and DW is a 7th-generation Californio). It's OK, I guess, but humid, flaaaaat and the nearest ocean is 600 miles away. The nearest Del Taco, Rubio's, Jack in the Box, and In-n-Out are even farther. Sniff.