Can I upgrade my computer, or should I totally replace it?

Computers are so inexpensive now, why wouldn’t you upgrade an old computer with a new model that has many times the computing/ storage capacity!? I recently bought a new Lenovo laptop for about $400. It is a pleasure and can run anything and everything I want to use.
 
Computers are so inexpensive now, why wouldn’t you upgrade an old computer with a new model that has many times the computing/ storage capacity!? I recently bought a new Lenovo laptop for about $400. It is a pleasure and can run anything and everything I want to use
I did calculations on upgrading my very old computer back around the holidays and deemed the upgrade performance was not worth it for a $400 computer, and definitely not a laptop. lol I would have to spend a lot more on a higher end system for the increase to be worth it, and the processor alone cost more than that. I've already upgraded the components that can be upgraded. I'll probably consider again near the end of the year if I have any money left over, the way things are going.
 
I did calculations on upgrading my very old computer back around the holidays and deemed the upgrade performance was not worth it for a $400 computer, and definitely not a laptop. lol I would have to spend a lot more on a higher end system for the increase to be worth it, and the processor alone cost more than that. I've already upgraded the components that can be upgraded. I'll probably consider again near the end of the year if I have any money left over, the way things are going.
GenXguy, the way things are going, I hope we can afford a Texas Instuments calculator…one of the first electronic gadgets I ever got as a teen. 🤷🏻‍♂️😂
 
I did calculations on upgrading my very old computer back around the holidays and deemed the upgrade performance was not worth it for a $400 computer, and definitely not a laptop.
GenXguy doing his part to fight inflation! :)
 
I usually upgrade with slightly older refurbished machines. Brand new isn't worth the premium. I update parts here and there.
 
The terms upgrade, update, refresh are loosely applied. Conversation becomes cloudy when the basic terminology is not agreed upon.

I'm at a similar point in time as OP. M$ will not let me update my 2014 Dell XPS to the new OS. Yes, I know the reasons to push that. But I'm not a follower. I refreshed the machine a few years ago, and the performance is all that I need.

So I am giving serious thought to dual-install Linux on my hardware. Some will continue to criticize decisions like that. "A new machine is better, more reliable, and so on." I place great value on this machine, because it is paid for and does EVERYTHING I require. I don't really intend to debate on that point.

A 2nd option is to buy a worthy notebook that I'll use with Linux. So, interactions that require the best security around will be done on that machine. Win 10 will standby for occasional use when I can't carry out a task on the Linux buddy.
 
The terms upgrade, update, refresh are loosely applied. Conversation becomes cloudy when the basic terminology is not agreed upon.

I'm at a similar point in time as OP. M$ will not let me update my 2014 Dell XPS to the new OS. Yes, I know the reasons to push that. But I'm not a follower. I refreshed the machine a few years ago, and the performance is all that I need.

So I am giving serious thought to dual-install Linux on my hardware. Some will continue to criticize decisions like that. "A new machine is better, more reliable, and so on." I place great value on this machine, because it is paid for and does EVERYTHING I require. I don't really intend to debate on that point.

A 2nd option is to buy a worthy notebook that I'll use with Linux. So, interactions that require the best security around will be done on that machine. Win 10 will standby for occasional use when I can't carry out a task on the Linux buddy.
You can run Win 11 on "unapproved" machines, so that is an option. If you run Linux you can run Win 11 in a Virtual machine like Virtualbox or QEMU (more performant, but for advanced users).
 
Here are steps to repair Windows without worry about losing your personal files. The two
DISM /online /Cleanup-image / restorehealth and sfc /scannow will replace files corrupted or missing.
Read all the steps before starting. Takes less then 10 minutes.

You can use DISM to check if you have the updated files and once you do to repair.

Right click on the Start button (Flag icon) and click on Search. Type: cmd
Right click on Command Prompt and click on Run as administrator

Checks if system image has any problems by typing the press the Enter key:
DISM /online /Cleanup-image / checkhealth

Or this that checks if system file cache is up to date and not corrupted:
DISM /online /Cleanup-image / scanhealth

If problems show up you type and this will fix the problems:
DISM /online /Cleanup-image / restorehealth

Start out with restorehealth as you can bypass the other steps.
 
Computers are so inexpensive now, why wouldn’t you upgrade an old computer with a new model that has many times the computing/ storage capacity!? I recently bought a new Lenovo laptop for about $400. It is a pleasure and can run anything and everything I want to use.
I'd like to keep my old obsolete Mac running as a back-up and to let DW have something to play games on. Unfortunately, Apple basically said it's a lost cause and they don't support it any more. Many of the things I used to do on it no longer w*rk. Norton says the antivirus no longer w*rks on it either.
 
I have purchased new hardware when upgrading (?) to a new Windows OS. In nearly 30 years, the OS upgrade path has been Win95/98 -> WinXP -> Win7 -> Win10. I managed to avoid Vista and Win8/8+. I built the PCs for Win95 and WinXP Pro, and I purchased PCs from Dell for Win7 Pro (XPS 8700) and Win10 Pro (XPS 8930).

I am about to go to Win11 Pro, reluctantly. Once again, I will be getting new hardware for that. Unfortunately, Dell's XPS desktop PC series no longer exists, and their replacements have been panned hard for poor value, lack of upgrade flexibility, and mediocre performance in recent years.

I'm looking at building my first PC in almost 24 years. The Win10 PC will remain as-is for a while to make sure the applications I want to run I can do so on Win11. If something won't transition to Win11, I will keep Win10 around for that. Otherwise, I will install Linux on the Win10 PC as a backup (DW has an occasional PC need).
 
I'm looking at building my first PC in almost 24 years. The Win10 PC will remain as-is for a while to make sure the applications I want to run I can do so on Win11. If something won't transition to Win11, I will keep Win10 around for that. Otherwise, I will install Linux on the Win10 PC as a backup (DW has an occasional PC need).
Unless you have some specific needs that warrant building a PC, such as a high end gaming setup, I have found building a PC from scratch to not be worth the effort. It may have been years ago when the systems cost more but not any longer. Recently we made the switch so we could run Win11 and went in a very different direction. Rather than replacing my Dell desktop and the wife's Dell laptop with something similar (those are the systems we have for everyday usage in our retirement, and don't need anything high end), we went with mini PCs, specifically the GMKtec brand. Can't believe how much power they have for our needs in a box that is about four inches square and about 2-3 inches in height. Came with 16GB of memory, 1TB SSD, HDMI connector, and three USB ports. I need more than the three ports so I have a USB box running off one of the ports that gives me four additional ports. These little beasts are super quiet; you have to put your ear right down to them to hear anything. They don't heat up and they have been just chugging along for months now without an issue. But the real estate I gained on my desk is significant. Just a suggestion.
 
I prefer having the space for additional internal drives. With the new motherboards, multiple SSDs are possible. But every desktop PC (mid-tower case off the desk) I have owned I have had multiple internal hard drives. I also want room for an internal optical drive writer/reader (blu-ray/DVD/CD). I also want to be able to add RAM if desired in the future. Many smaller systems have only two RAM slots on their motherboards. I want four, with two filled to start.

Having all of those drives in external cases adds up to more space used and additional power and USB cords. As it is, I already have at least one external hard drive connected to my PC. I have others in the closet that I use from time to time. I generate a lot of data.

But I will agree, I don't need a high-end gaming system, which is why I am leaning toward a PC build myself. I don't need a clear case or clear side panel to see the inside of the PC. Nor do I need the lighted fans and other devices providing a constant light show.
 
But I will agree, I don't need a high-end gaming system, which is why I am leaning toward a PC build myself. I don't need a clear case or clear side panel to see the inside of the PC. Nor do I need the lighted fans and other devices providing a constant light show.
Even for a high end or even low/mid end gaming system, building yourself is fine. You can purchase and install the graphics card of your choice or upgrade to a better one if needed. I'm not a gamer, but I don't like delays and hesitations doing things, which happens more with those low end systems. I could just keep my existing self build 4 khz overclocked Sandy Bridge system for that and upgrade to Windows 11 with workarounds.
 
Even for a high end or even low/mid end gaming system, building yourself is fine. You can purchase and install the graphics card of your choice or upgrade to a better one if needed. I'm not a gamer, but I don't like delays and hesitations doing things, which happens more with those low end systems.
That pretty much describes why I opt for a mid-range, non-gaming system. A solid graphics card is still useful for things like photo and video editing. But even when multi-tasking applications and browsers, a decent graphics card will offload the demands on the CPU compared to running the on-board graphics processor.

I don't play many games, but I do own three different baseball simulators. They aren't graphic intensive, but a PC will execute them better on a dedicated graphics card.
 
TIL you can run Windows in a bottle on Linux. If so inclined.

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So this is like WINE? WINE worked for me (on Linux) for some basic stuff, but there were a lot of limitations, and stuff that was supposed to work with some tweaking I generally gave up on before I could get it to work.
 
I'd like to keep my old obsolete Mac running as a back-up and to let DW have something to play games on. Unfortunately, Apple basically said it's a lost cause and they don't support it any more. Many of the things I used to do on it no longer w*rk. Norton says the antivirus no longer w*rks on it either.
You could load Linux on that, and it will run like new. Although the games your wife likes may not be available.
 
So this is like WINE? WINE worked for me (on Linux) for some basic stuff, but there were a lot of limitations, and stuff that was supposed to work with some tweaking I generally gave up on before I could get it to work.
If it is Wine I wouldn't waste my time with it. Just run a virtual machine instead.
 
I'm looking at building my first PC in almost 24 years. The Win10 PC will remain as-is for a while to make sure the applications I want to run I can do so on Win11. If something won't transition to Win11, I will keep Win10 around for that. Otherwise, I will install Linux on the Win10 PC as a backup (DW has an occasional PC need).
I decided to go the build route to move my main desktop (tower) to Windows 11. I like to do builds and was looking for a reason to "justify" a new one, at a price below the "don't ask, don't tell" hobby spending Dw and I have 😂 . I am also not a gamer and do not need high end graphics; the built-in CPU graphics works fine for my needs.

The components I used (which I actually accumulated over a 5month period before starting the build):

  • AMD Ryzen 5 5500GT CPU - $125 (not the fastest, but benchmarks at almost 4 times as fast as my Win10 platform CPU)
  • MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI motherboard - $25 (Amazon gift cards helped :))
  • 250GB SSD for the boot drive - $18
  • Western Digital 4TB hard drive - $75
  • Crucial 32GB memory - $51
  • 500W Power Supply - $30 (optional, but wanted to keep running my current system, and I also like to have a spare PS due to the number of systems I have)

The total ($324) was fine by me. I had a spare case and a spare DVD-RW drive from consolidating other tower systems. I can choose to add another hard drive if I decide to RAID the programs/data drive (I back up my data to both a home based RAID NAS and an external cloud, so not really required). The systems are on a KVM switch, so no need for another monitor/keyboard/mouse/speaker while running both and doing my migration testing. I did not have any issues with "old" Windows 10 apps like Quicken 2017 or Office 2007, and the Win11 platform "cut over to production" in early August. So far, so good :).
 
You could load Linux on that, and it will run like new. Although the games your wife likes may not be available.

If it is Wine I wouldn't waste my time with it. Just run a virtual machine instead.
I have found that WINE (with proton, Steam's wine fork, or Lutris with DXVK) runs any Windows game I've tried. In fact, it runs older Windows games better than can be run on whatever current Windows version Microsoft is trying to foist upon the general public.

Just install the Steam client (and/or Lutris) on your FOSS Linux machine.

Check here for your game: https://www.protondb.com/explore
Or here for Lutris.

Under Lutris, I'm running EA's launcher, to play the (free) Sims 4, as well as running Sims 3, which I've installed from DVDs. I also play a bunch of 10-30 year old DOS/Windows games through it.
I recently replayed a free version of Far Cry 4 (I got with a video card purchase back in the day), by installing Ubiconnect (formerly Uplay) thru Lutris, and did a of couple nostalgic replays for no $$.
 
Go here to PC Part Picker https://pcpartpicker.com to match all the parts.
You choose the cpu then it will match the motherboard etc.
You can buy the parts a lot cheaper elsewhere then what they list. Use the site to create a list of parts to buy and start shopping on the internet. Look for a motherboard that has both M.2 slots and SATA ports.
The more the better for future upgrades.

Also Amazon has lots of pre-owned computers. I bought 2 HP z240 SFF desktop pc's. One cost $17+ with credit card points paying the rest. The other was $135+. It is now about $145
The pc was from 2018 and I came across reviews that said it was originally $3,200 <--- !!
It cannot run Windows 11 unless you do the workaround.
If you want Windows 11 you can find one that has the cpu required and the TPM2 chip.

Windows Processor Requirements​

 
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You could load Linux on that, and it will run like new. Although the games your wife likes may not be available.
Yeah, wouldn't have a clue how to even try that. Not quite a Luddite - but close.
 
If it is Wine I wouldn't waste my time with it. Just run a virtual machine instead.
I guess I need to be educated. In order to run Windows applications like MS Word/Excel, Adobe Acrobat Standard, etc., plus Linux, is the virtual machine on Windows to run Linux, or is the virtual machine on Linux to run Windows?
 
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