Car tariffs

Well, went out an bought new tires for wife's SUV... before tariffs hit them...

Will probably have to keep the car for a few more years... it already is 10 years and 123K miles...
 
Unfortunately, used car prices will rise with new cars, also replacement parts cost will rise. I guess if you walk a lot you could claim no effect....except now the handyman who fixes your leaking waste pipe had to pay $15,000 more for his work van and so charges you $5 more per hour.
As noted in my post, have three well fnctioning vehicles. At age 77 this car tariff stuff is irrelevant to me. Though to yung whipper snappers it is problem.

As for plumbers and handyman. Seems many plumbing shops went the "Flat Rater" venue.
An example, a neighbor called plumbing company to replace water pressure regulator and a toilet ring (under toilet) both items in the same room, within 5 feet of each other.. Toatal time on job 45 minutes. The bill: $475.xx for the regulator, $367.xx for the toilet ring replacement.

And they did not even kiss him.
This was a few weeks before the tariff thing.
 
As for plumbers and handyman. Seems many plumbing shops went the "Flat Rater" venue.
An example, a neighbor called plumbing company to replace water pressure regulator and a toilet ring (under toilet) both items in the same room, within 5 feet of each other.. Toatal time on job 45 minutes. The bill: $475.xx for the regulator, $367.xx for the toilet ring replacement.
Yes, and soon it will be $475 plus X and $367 plus X, where X is the extra costs they incur due to the tariffs.

They need to fix their trucks and buy new ones periodically, so those costs will be passed along to their customers.

Heck, does anyone think municipalities, states, school districts, public transportation, etc. are somehow immune from these tariff costs, or will just "eat" the extra costs?
 
We didn’t take a chance and bought DW’s new car in January before the inauguration. Ended up getting a car in transit. We picked it up the day after it arrived at the dealership, but had locked it in previously.
 
We didn’t take a chance and bought DW’s new car in January before the inauguration. Ended up getting a car in transit. We picked it up the day after it arrived at the dealership, but had locked it in previously.
Good thing they didn't sell it out from under you!
 
Good thing they didn't sell it out from under you!
One of my very earliest cases as a lawyer involved a car dealership selling an Acura NSX out from under a guy who had pre-ordered, paid a deposit and waited a year, because the cars were selling at a big premium.
 
One of my very earliest cases as a lawyer involved a car dealership selling an Acura NSX out from under a guy who had pre-ordered, paid a deposit and waited a year, because the cars were selling at a big premium.
Since you didn't say, I guess I'll ask if you won the case. I hope so!
 
Good thing they didn't sell it out from under you!
We were repeat customers for both the dealership and the salesman. I wasn’t worried at all about that.
 
As noted in my post, have three well fnctioning vehicles. At age 77 this car tariff stuff is irrelevant to me. Though to yung whipper snappers it is problem.

As for plumbers and handyman. Seems many plumbing shops went the "Flat Rater" venue.
An example, a neighbor called plumbing company to replace water pressure regulator and a toilet ring (under toilet) both items in the same room, within 5 feet of each other.. Toatal time on job 45 minutes. The bill: $475.xx for the regulator, $367.xx for the toilet ring replacement.

And they did not even kiss him.
This was a few weeks before the tariff thing.
That occurred with the plumbing company we used. First time our tank was leaking came out need new toilet and replaced valve and supply line, decided to get the other one changed. We were charged flat rate for each item, toilet, supply line and valve. Can’t remember the price, but at the time was worth it. No T&M. Next time we had some water heater issues and another guy came from the same company nickeled and dimed us for each item. More like hundreds for each item. Decided to have both outside faucets replaced while he was here and it took about two minutes to twist them off and install new and were about $200 or 250 for each. I could have done that, but didn’t want to chance something going wrong so we paid the price. We’ve decided to check on other plumbers in the future as it’s cost way more than former T&M rates that we experienced.
 
Our car is exactly 1 year old this month. No plans to change it for a good few years
 
Since you didn't say, I guess I'll ask if you won the case. I hope so!
I represented American Honda. Our goal was to get dismissed from the case, because the manufacturer sells the car to the dealer. What the dealership does with the car after that is neither within the control of nor the responsibility of the manufacturer. We were successful in that effort.
 
Any idea what happened between the dealer and the customer?
If I ever knew, I have forgotten. Once the goal was achieved, I moved on to worrying about the dozens of other cases I was working on.
 
Well, went out an bought new tires for wife's SUV... before tariffs hit them...

Will probably have to keep the car for a few more years... it already is 10 years and 123K miles...
Yeah I was planning on a new car at the end of this year, mine is 9 years old, and I'm ready for a change. But eh... Costco has a good deal on tires right now and I could use some, so I'll get them and hold the car for another...bit.
 
DW drives a 2012 Acura with 110k miles. I have a 2017 F150 with 113k miles and a 2021 Jeep Wrangler with 40k.

DW has been wanting a Genesis for the past few years, but her car looks and runs great. And I’m not buying a Genesis now even though there are reports that they are holding prices for the time being.

And I can go a long time before I need to replace my truck or jeep. So no vehicle purchases are planned for many years.
 
Pure luck as to the timing.

We, as planned, traded in the 2010 Honda CR-V and bought a 2025 CR-V hybrid last August. No need for a new vehicle for many years.
 
If I ever knew, I have forgotten. Once the goal was achieved, I moved on to worrying about the dozens of other cases I was working on.
Like Charlie Brown

"I’m only going to dread one day at a time"
 
Yeah I was planning on a new car at the end of this year, mine is 9 years old, and I'm ready for a change. But eh... Costco has a good deal on tires right now and I could use some, so I'll get them and hold the car for another...bit.
Yea... that is what I was thinking but DW said there is no way she will keep the car for 4 more years (probably max with these tariffs..)... I do not want to get stuck with $5 to $10K more... bite the bullet now...
 
One of my very earliest cases as a lawyer involved a car dealership selling an Acura NSX out from under a guy who had pre-ordered, paid a deposit and waited a year, because the cars were selling at a big premium.
This seems to be a fairly common occurrence (at least reading on the forums) as the manufacturer sells the vehicle to the dealer. I've been fortunate twice in ordering a vehicle that ended up being worth more when it was delivered - the dealers involved both honored the deal.

The first case was way back in 94. The new Camaro had come out in 93 and was hard to get. I went to a variety of Chevy and Pontiac dealers and finally got one to do an order for me at $500 over invoice. My rationale was that it was no risk to them, if GM failed to build the vehicle then they weren't out anything, and if GM did, well then they would help their stock ordering ability. When the thing was finally built (as a 94) and arrived, the dealer offered me $1500 to not take it. (Which was very nice, as they could have just scr*wed me).

Fast forward to July 2021, when I did a order two days after Ford announced the 2022 Mavericks. I ordered a loaded (Lariat + Lux pkg + Sunroof + Co-pilot 360) hybrid at a dealer in PA that was offering 4% UNDER invoice, where around me dealers weren't offering anything at all. Ford later delayed the hybrid's, but it was eventually built. The dealer (Horsham Ford) HONORED my deal, and even honored the Ford price protection (there was a price increase a few months after I did the order) AND got me Ford 0% financing. I was worried that they would back out of the deal (on which I paid NOTHING down and never signed a sales contract), but they did.
 
There was no 4 cylinder turbo in 2017 for the F150.

There was a 2.7L 6 cylinder eco-boost (turbo), 325 horsepower and 375 lb-ft of torque.
There was a 3.5L 6 cylinder eco-boost (turbo), 375 horsepower and 470 lb-ft of torque.
There was a 3.5L 6 cylinder high output eco-boost (turbo), 450 horsepower and 510 lb-ft of torque. (On the Raptor).
There was a 5.0L 8 cylinder NA, 385 horsepower and 387 lb-ft of torque.
There was a 3.5L 6 cylinder NA, 282 horsepower and 253 lb-ft of torque. (This was the base engine on the XL.)

I have a 2015 w/115K miles on it (3.5L eco-boost) and it has gotten close to 20 MPG overall - including towing a 20' trailer w/tractor, being filled with wood, multiple long trips pulling u-hauls, and having studded snows on it every winter.

Having said this, I have (had as I just sold the Maverick) both. If I were pulling a 17' sailboat/trailer at 3k, I would much rather have the F150 doing it rather than the 2.5L Maverick Hybrid.

ETA: The Maverick's non-hybrid engine is the 2.0L Turbo. Perhaps you were thinking of that? I also have that engine in a 21 Bronco Sport Badlands. It is quite peppy on that little thing.
Debated on what to get a couple of years ago, really wanted to stay with a NA motor but in the end went with the 2.7 eco boost. Really come to love this new truck, we pull a little 17 foot travel trailer with it and it's a great match. We use it more just for road trips as it so nice, can't complain about the gas millage. We went with the larger fuel tank, big fan of that too.

We see how long the engine hangs in there, lots of plumbing under the hood:)
 
Debated on what to get a couple of years ago, really wanted to stay with a NA motor but in the end went with the 2.7 eco boost. Really come to love this new truck, we pull a little 17 foot travel trailer with it and it's a great match. We use it more just for road trips as it so nice, can't complain about the gas millage. We went with the larger fuel tank, big fan of that too.

We see how long the engine hangs in there, lots of plumbing under the hood:)
Being a V-8 kinda guy, I was also very hesitant on the turbo front after my 80's experience w/a Chrysler w/a turbo. Talk about junk/trouble.

When I looked, my niece's hubby had a 2011 3.5 eco-boost (first year I believe) with over 120K miles at the time I was looking which he used to tow all kinds of stuff for the family business. (He ended up keeping it over 200K miles.). That, along with the Ike Gauntlet test
convinced me that the 3.5 twin-turbo was the way to go for a truck I wanted to use to pull a 20' trailer + tractor (about 7K pounds).
 
Pure luck as to the timing.

We, as planned, traded in the 2010 Honda CR-V and bought a 2025 CR-V hybrid last August. No need for a new vehicle for many years.
We just traded my DW 2019 Toyota Hilander Hibred in a month ago . We went to 3 Toyota dealership near us and got the same story. No one around had the ehicle she wanted and wasn't sure when /if they would get one. She wanted a new HIlander Hibred, in a differant color than the "stock" white,gray,black or ugly "shiney primer" color most were stocking. So she ended up with a Subaru. I'm not crazy about the Suby but it is he choice so we will live with it for a few years and won'twory about tariffs.
 
Another good reason to buy 2-3 year old, quality, certified used cars. No tariffs on used and someone else takes the biggest depreciation hit.
 
Another good reason to buy 2-3 year old, quality, certified used cars. No tariffs on used and someone else takes the biggest depreciation hit.
I am not so sure. We bought a brand new Ford mid roof Transit van with 3.5L ecoboost engine in 2019 for $31,000. We sold it in 2023 for $32,000 to Carmax. We had put about 27,000 miles on it including a epic cross country road trip. Never put a dime into it except 3 oil changes (didn't even put on new wiper blades the whole time lol)

I would bet that you could do similar today with a bottom of the line basic Ford Maverick hybrid 2024 model FWD. They are selling for under $30k and I bet in 3 years you could get $25k for it with low miles.
 
Another good reason to buy 2-3 year old, quality, certified used cars. No tariffs on used and someone else takes the biggest depreciation hit.
Generally, yes, but just like in 2020-21, as new car prices go up, so too will used car prices.
 
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