CEF Holdings --- July 2026

Got some cash burning a hole in my pocket.
Looking at PTY and PHK
Sold PTY at $13.06 now at $12.12
Sold PHK at $4.88, now at $4.67
In an IRA

Which one would you buy?
 
USPS delivered an "important notice" today from PIMCO regarding investment policy for PTY to be effective August 28, 2026. Document tracker is PTY_SUPP1_062426. See scan below for current and revised policy.


2026-07-06 21-37 PTY.pdf


Should any PTY owner be concerned about this upcoming change?
No. PIMCO lawyers are just cleaning up and simplifying the already broad investment guidelines. D
 
Looking at GOF and TRIN for 15th Ex-Div bump (Monthly Div's). Any others you guys are thinking about?

Flieger
 
Like stocks, bond CEFs are risk assets that typically disappointment buy and hold investors with sub-optimaltotal TOTAL returns.
Am I correct in saying that unlike stocks, the eventual drop in bondish-CEFs is more predictable and/or slower, allowing a more workable plan to flee to cash?
 
@sengsational, my impression from following these threads is that rather than some distinct "drop" these bondish CEFs rise and fall with retail investors' hopes and fears, and their real strength is as a vehicle for those who believe they know how to buy lower and sell higher, reaping profits bit by bit as an ongoing process. I am predominantly buy-and-hold, and while the big dividends have been a fun, new experience for me that I have experimented with thanks to these CEF threads, I suspect my total return will suffer in the long run.
 
Question for this thread:
I tend to hold high yield vehicles to generate "just enough and a little bit more" income than I need to cover my spending. The rest (~70%) sits in growth.

I get the sense that some of you here go well beyond income needs and that things like CEFS may be a more significant piece of your portfolio.

Could it be because yields of 11% to 16% are an "almost" guaranteed return? Or am I, per usual, out in the weeds? Thoughts?
I don't think you are out in the weeds. Of course everyone's needs and portfolio size is different. At this point I have a very active travel budget thus large cash flow "needs". I have a lot of CEF's across multiple sectors. Everything in my market portfolio is there to create income. Growth will largely come by reinvestment. Although some of my equity income ETF's "should" grow in value over time as will some of the equity holdings. I'm not out to grow the pile in terms of value although mentally that is nice. I am out to continue and to grow my income stream to allow our lifestyle to continue. CEF's and other high yielding assets allow that to happen.Income YOY to date is up over 5%, with no reinvestment due to some pending tax issues. I mean if I was sitting on $20 million it would be a different story with a ton of muni's..but I'm not, thus CEF's.
 
Am I correct in saying that unlike stocks, the eventual drop in bondish-CEFs is more predictable and/or slower, allowing a more workable plan to flee to cash?
IMO yes. Typically relatively slow moving interest rates/narratives are the primary drivers of CEF prices, while stocks are driven by stories/narratives that can be punctured in an instant. (Down 10% because earnings missed estimatesby a penny.)
STATS: PDI beta .55, SPY 1.0. PDI 3yr standard dev 5-ish. SPY 13+
Regards, Dick
 
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IMO yes. Typically relatively slow moving interest rates/narratives are the primary drivers of CEF prices, while stocks are driven by stories/narratives that can be punctured in an instant. (Down 10% because earnings missed estimatesby a penny.)
STATS: PDI beta .55, SPY 1.0. PDI 3yr standard dev 5-ish. SPY 13+
Regards, Dick
Is that an “eventual drop,” or is that just the rising and falling with interest rates? Maybe I’m confused as to what @sengsational meant by that.
 
Sold GOF (6800 shares) for a small profit @ $10.73.
The volatility and uncertainty was making me seasick.

Placed a GTC limit order to buy PAXS around today's lows.
Placed a GTC limit order to add 3000 PFN around today's lows.
 
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IAUI holds physical gold and writes options against it, so distributions are mostly considered ROC; ie -- tax-favorable, but not destructive.

IGLD writes synthetic covered calls. Better to hold in an IRA b/c distributions are fully taxed.

For a potentially wilder kick, there's KSLV; also tax-friendly but volatile. I just bought a handful -- but not suggesting it, only a mention.

For all of them, potential gains are partially capped but divs are generous.

As we all know, PMs have fallen hard from their January peaks. Some of us feel the current dip might be opportune to re-acquire. Others, of course, will avoid.

For CEFs containing various amounts of gold exposure, there's ASA, GGN and GNT.
 
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Yep - I acquired some KGLD. KSLV is their silver ETF. Thinking about it as well...sorry they are not CEF's don't want to veer off topic.
For a potentially wilder kick, there's KSLV; also tax-friendly but volatile. I just bought a handful -- but not suggesting it, only a mention.
 
You can Google it, but they sell calls for us usually high but variable distribution. D
I bought a little IAUI when they first opened the fund. Bought more recently. For PM exposure own BCX, GGN, and also held CEF and SLVP during the runup (sold in Jan) I also hold CEFS and FOF which have/had a bit of a PM in their top 10 holdings.
 
After reimposing sanctions and attacking IRAN, probably. I just raised some more cash in the after market. Better safe.....
Regards, Dick
It's always interesting to me. I have been surprised in the past the day following attacks with a rise in the markets. Sometimes it just doesn't make sense.

Flieger
 
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