CEF Holdings --- June 2026

Only by total return measures, which implicitly assume a buy and sell. As an income investor, my income has only risen. When the HY index eventually rises, the paper losses will disappear -- and never have mattered.
Hi Paul. No point in rehashing it a length, but TR does not imply or assume anything about buying and selling. It DOES assume holding the asset throughout the measurement period. And while choosing not to avoid drawdowns is...well, a choice....it dramatically diminishes long term portfolio returns.
Best, Dick
 
Did you omit PDI for a reason?
Yes. PDI was up on the week and on a daily but not weekly MACD buy signal. It has been beaten up so badly --- to a 16.3% yield at worst! --- that the chart formation is different from its LOWER YIELDING PIMCO brethren. Still my largest position.
Regards, Dick
 
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Almost the end of the fiscal year. PDI at 72.2%.
Thanks for posting. Worth remembering: this table is NII ONLY. It does not include accrued but unrealized swap book income or ATM sales premium capture which are substantial for several funds. And the low NII coverage is perhaps the only reason PDI ALREADY yields 4% more than peers.
Regards, Dick
 
Yes. PDI was up on the week and on a daily but not weekly MACD buy signal. It has been beaten up so badly --- to a 16.3% yield at worst! --- that the chart formation is different from its LOWER YIELDING PIMCO brethren. Still my largest position.
Regards, Dick
Hi!
PDI is my largest holding by far of all my CEF holdings. In fact, my position has grown since the beginning of June, mostly just recently in the low 16 range. I started to get a little nervous with all of the divy cut chatter last week, but I remained fully invested.

Regards,
Todd
 
Hi!
PDI is my largest holding by far of all my CEF holdings. In fact, my position has grown since the beginning of June, mostly just recently in the low 16 range. I started to get a little nervous with all of the divy cut chatter last week, but I remained fully invested.
Hi Todd. It strikes me that IF IF IF the fund board wanted to cut a distribution, it would be PDI ---- BUT they would have no obvious reason to do so. In fiscal H1, PDI earned NII 94c, net real/unrealized 17c and premium capture 18c = 129c so it fell 3c short of covering its distributions. For fiscal H2, we won't know for 60-70 days, but NII should be about the same, portfolio marks will probably exceed swap accruals, but PDI holds cash to pre-distribute accrued swap income (see top 10 holdings!), and we can only guess at ATM premium capture....it could be less or more than HI 18c. In any event, the 72% NII coverage --- if unexplained --- paints a picture folks can enjoy fearing.

Finally, there is current PDI pricing at a yield 4% over peers that already discounts the fear of a cut. Suppose for fun that PDI cut it's distribution to an overcovered 19c. It would yield 13.8% with no fear of a cut for years. I'd run THAT up to 50% of my portfolio. AND...we reasonably expect a cut would generate panic selling, so a lower price and higher yield would be temporarily available.
Regards, Dick
PS. Remember: total portfolio income from all sources is put by the board in 2 buckets: NAV or distribution. What they don't distribute doesn't disappear --- it builds NAV. D
 
"Finally, there is current PDI pricing at a yield 4% over peers that already discounts the fear of a cut. Suppose for fun that PDI cut it's distribution to an overcovered 19c. It would yield 13.8% with no fear of a cut for years. I'd run THAT up to 50% of my portfolio. AND...we reasonably expect a cut would generate panic selling, so a lower price and higher yield would be temporarily available."

Exactly.

When looking at Pimco CEFs there are facts you know (which never present the entire picture) and other suppositions we might surmise -- with varying degrees of probability. PDI's future distribution stream is a prime example. I'm satisfied there's a good chance it might be cut in the next year. But the size and likelihood? -- unknown.
So I'm happy to hold my current PDI position (6% of PV) and maintain larger positions in PCN and PFN to be well paid while waiting. If I am wrong, 11.5% or 12% taxed deferred is plenty sufficient. But if a PDI dist cut truly appears I want to be able to move aggressively into the inevitable but brief panic-sale dip which I feel sure would follow.
 
I play around somewhat with different AI platforms. I found this interesting:

“List what are considered the top well managed most reliable closed end funds”. I expected a list and got three. I hold each but the rest of mine are apparently trash.

PTY,PDI and ECAT.

I just trust AI for quick calculating questions involving numbers and percentages not critical thinking and reasoning for choices. I bet I’d get a different list tomorrow.

Asking for suitable replacements for my trash it listed more modern concepts offered by NEOS and of course J.P. Morgan
 
Here is Armchair Income's latest take on PCN, PTY, and PDI. His current first choice seems to be PTY.

Not bad for a 12 minute "talkie" and more useful than most marketing bits. Unfortunately lacks nuance, seems to mistake NII for only source of distributable income, assumes higher leverage costs will hurt performance because he overlooks large floating rate holdings, and derivative books deserve at minimum a mention. Thanks for posting. FWIW, I share his view on PTY.
Regards, Dick
 
I play around somewhat with different AI platforms. I found this interesting:

“List what are considered the top well managed most reliable closed end funds”. I expected a list and got three. I hold each but the rest of mine are apparently trash.

PTY,PDI and ECAT.

I just trust AI for quick calculating questions involving numbers and percentages not critical thinking and reasoning for choices. I bet I’d get a different list tomorrow.

Asking for suitable replacements for my trash it listed more modern concepts offered by NEOS and of course J.P. Morgan
Interesting AI "choice" of ECAT. Fine returns, but between 2% and 6% lower total return than SPY for 23-24-25. But lost less than SPY by 4% in rough 2022. Meets expectations for a balanced fund, but a "top pick"?
Regards, Dick
 
Interesting AI "choice" of ECAT. Fine returns, but between 2% and 6% lower total return than SPY for 23-24-25. But lost less than SPY by 4% in rough 2022. Meets expectations for a balanced fund, but a "top pick"?
Regards, Dick
Yes it was, today anyway in some spots. I think I qualified “consistent stable income only”.

AI doesn’t like concentration in PIMCO management or any management. that’s why I asked for a list. So instead of maybe half my holdings in PIMCO this particular one pushed for 2/3 in those 2 and 1/3 in ECAT, nothing else. I’m going to add some covered calls next month.

What caught my eye really was PTY and PDI seem to come up consistently across platforms.
 
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Interesting AI "choice" of ECAT. Fine returns, but between 2% and 6% lower total return than SPY for 23-24-25. But lost less than SPY by 4% in rough 2022. Meets expectations for a balanced fund, but a "top pick"?
Regards, Dick
Hi Dick .... PDI was created with the merger of a few Pimco CEFs that I was not in love it. What do you think happened to the various legacy holdings at the time of merger? Have they all turned over so that now the portfolio is a cohesive portfolio to the PMs liking? Or are the PMs still saddled with some legacy holdings that they are just trying to do their best with?
 
Hi Dick .... PDI was created with the merger of a few Pimco CEFs that I was not in love it. What do you think happened to the various legacy holdings at the time of merger? Have they all turned over so that now the portfolio is a cohesive portfolio to the PMs liking? Or are the PMs still saddled with some legacy holdings that they are just trying to do their best with?
You may not have liked PKO PDI and PCI, but they were very popular and well performing at the time of the merger. It's been a while so I doubt many assets have survived -- except, of course, the extraordinary busted MBS from the GFC. Odd question, since there were no meaningful manager changes in the merger, and professional managers are never "stuck" with assets they are unhappy with ---- they simply sell them.
Regards, Dick
 
Not bad for a 12 minute "talkie" and more useful than most marketing bits. Unfortunately lacks nuance, seems to mistake NII for only source of distributable income, assumes higher leverage costs will hurt performance because he overlooks large floating rate holdings, and derivative books deserve at minimum a mention. Thanks for posting. FWIW, I share his view on PTY.
Regards, Dick
He does no "marketing" for any particular fund(s), purely informational.

Flieger
 
You may not have liked PKO PDI and PCI, but they were very popular and well performing at the time of the merger. It's been a while so I doubt many assets have survived -- except, of course, the extraordinary busted MBS from the GFC. Odd question, since there were no meaningful manager changes in the merger, and professional managers are never "stuck" with assets they are unhappy with ---- they simply sell them.
Regards, Dick
Thanks Dick. It was PKO I was not fond of. But PDI is a biggie size AUM CEF and there has to be efficiencies with that. I generally like CEFs with AUM over $1B, but I can't give you a clear reason. Is there one?
 
He does no "marketing" for any particular fund(s), purely informational.

Flieger
Seeking Alpha....I'm sure the gent doesn't present research with such hi-grade production values just for fun.
Regards, Dick
 
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Seeking Alpha....I'm sure the gent doesn't present research with such hi-grade production values just for fun.
Regards, Dick
Didn't realize Seeking Alpha was a fund? He charges to belong to a group called Armchair Insider. That's where he get's his money for production (and I'm sure a little more).

Flieger
 
Didn't realize Seeking Alpha was a fund? He charges to belong to a group called Armchair Insider. That's where he get's his money for production (and I'm sure a little more).

Flieger
Seeking Alpha is a multiauthor site with other features that charges fees and supports fee-based advisories. Of course it is not a fund, it is an investment advisory business.
 
Seeking Alpha is a multiauthor site with other features that charges fees and supports fee-based advisories. Of course it is not a fund, it is an investment advisory business.
I know. I said the guy doesn't get paid from funds and you mentioned Seeking Alpha. Never mind.

Flieger
 
Hi,
I currently hold PAXS at 4% of my CEF portfolio and was looking at the price to nav and both are on the upswing. The MACD is encouraging to. I'm considering increasing my position and am curious what others that hold this CEF think about it?

Regards,
Todd
 
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Hi,
I currently hold PAXS at 4% of my CEF portfolio and was looking at the price to nav and both are on the upswing. The MACD is encouraging to. I'm considering increasing my position and am curious what others that hold this CEF think about it?

Regards,
Todd
My third largest position. I've been adding at discounts FWIW.
Regards, Dick
 
Added to PAXS, CEFS, JFR and entered PTY. Looking for an exit to BTCI:

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