Daylight Saving Time is giving most of us an hour this weekend! Don’t forget

[Music Lover]

Because like I said originally I like it light out later in the evening.
I get that you get up early and therefore don’t “miss” the later evening light- but I do.

People are going to sleep the same amount of hours regardless of clock change, when sunset is, or what time the clock says.

Therefore, assuming that you're retired and you like it to be light "later" then all you have to do is alter your schedule so that you wake up earlier.

 

[braumeister]

it must be for a particular latitude that you have equal daylight night time on the equinox dates.

I don't think that occurs anywhere, even at the equator. Always a bit before or after the equinox, depending on which hemisphere you're in. You would think it should work that way, but it doesn't.

 

[audreyh1]

I don't think that occurs anywhere, even at the equator. Always a bit before or after the equinox, depending on which hemisphere you're in. You would think it should work that way, but it doesn't.

Strange. At the equator I believe night and day times vary very little - yes, being close to 12 hours year round.

But I guess the equinoxes are actually when we are farthest from the sun, which also coincides somewhat with the tilt “straightening” but not precisely.

 

[Dtail]

1 hour does not affect me and don't really see the big deal of it, especially in retirement.

 

[Out-to-Lunch]

But I guess the equinoxes are actually when we are farthest from the sun, which also coincides somewhat with the tilt “straightening” but not precisely.

No, nothing to do with how far we are from the sun (apogee vs. perigee). Its just when the tilt vector of the Earth is perpendicular to a line from the sun to the Earth.

 

[Car-Guy]

Who said time travel is not possible? At 2am tomorrow morning, we are all going back in time one hour.

This would be useful if we could replay the last hour during a trading day.

 

[audreyh1]

No, nothing to do with how far we are from the sun (apogee vs. perigee). Its just when the tilt vector of the Earth is perpendicular to a line from the sun to the Earth.

But doesn’t actually correspond with equal day and night times. That seems odd.

 

[statsman]

I'll have to spend at least twenty minutes to reset a bunch of clocks, wrist watches around the house. Then the car, truck and suburban.
At least the four computers will do self service.

Prior to trading in our vehicle for a new one in September, I had 11 clocks to manually change and 10 clocks that auto-updated. It's now at least 9 to manually change. I have no idea how the new vehicle handles the time change.

Manual: Oven, microwave, water softener, irrigation timer, two desk clocks, one wall clock, and two clocks in our older vehicle (one dial-faced, one digital).

Auto: Two cell phones, three tablets, two desktop PCs, one laptop, and two HVAC thermostats.

There are other devices with clocks that we don't use at all, so I ignore them. Two flatscreen TVs. Two Blu-Ray players. Two Roku devices. An internal clock in our HT processor. Also a wrist watch that I haven't worn in three years.

 

[Gumby]

I did once work with an attorney who would take their car to the dealership twice a year to have the clock changed. I managed to figure it out on my own.

 

[audreyh1]

I did once work with an attorney who would take their car to the dealership twice a year to have the clock changed. I managed to figure it out on my own.

I remember even for us techies it could be painful with older cars. I think one change direction we would have to push a button with a paper clip 11 times. God forbid you went over!

 

[Out-to-Lunch]

But doesn’t actually correspond with equal day and night times. That seems odd.

If I am not misremembering, that is due to the refraction of light by the Earth's atmosphere. I.e., "sunrise" comes a little earlier than it would on a planet with no atmosphere, and "sunset" comes a little later.

 

[Out-to-Lunch]

Who said time travel is not possible? At 2am tomorrow morning, we are all going back in time one hour.

Only the first 2 AM, I suppose?

 

[audreyh1]

If I am not misremembering, that is due to the refraction of light by the Earth's atmosphere. I.e., "sunrise" comes a little earlier than it would on a planet with no atmosphere, and "sunset" comes a little later.

I see. I think it was 6 days later here after the last equinox to get sunrise and sunset to occur the same minute am and pm.

Wikipedia explains several combined influences for the small discrepancy in minutes:

The word is derived from the Latin aequinoctium, from aequus (equal) and nox (night). On the day of an equinox, daytime and nighttime are of approximately equal duration all over the planet. Contrary to popular belief,[10][11] they are not exactly equal because of the angular size of the Sun, atmospheric refraction, and the rapidly changing duration of the length of day that occurs at most latitudes around the equinoxes. Long before conceiving this equality, equatorial cultures noted the day when the Sun rises due east and sets due west, and indeed this happens on the day closest to the astronomically defined event. As a consequence, according to a properly constructed and aligned sundial, the daytime duration is 12 hours.

Equinox - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[TheWizard]

You should check your statement with respect to earliest sunset.

Or at least ask AI about it...

 

[old medic]

I think that retired people annoyed with daylight savings time changes just need to reframe the issue in their minds. Why exactly do you have to live by a clock?

The time change is beneficial in one aspect... I get to check the alarm clock battery twice a year....

 

[Lewis Clark]

Who said time travel is not possible? At 2am tomorrow morning, we are all going back in time one hour.

Not all if us. Parts of the US don't change their clocks.

 

[Calico]

Not a problem at all. I am technically an old person.

I think that retired people annoyed with daylight savings time changes just need to reframe the issue in their minds. Why exactly do you have to live by a clock?

I have to live by a clock because one of my pets requires medication three times a day at 8 hour intervals. Reframing that issue is not an option.

 

[big-papa]

As I'm sitting here, drinking my coffee after getting up at my usual 5am, I look down and see that it's actually 4am, I realize that ship has sailed for today. Try again tomorrow.

 

[audreyh1]

I have to live by a clock because one of my pets requires medication three times a day at 8 hour intervals. Reframing that issue is not an option.

I don’t understand that. If it’s exactly 8 hour intervals between doses then you wouldn’t want to give it at the same times today (Nov 2) because then the first dose would be at a 9 hour interval instead of 8. Similarly in the spring change to DST the first dose would be at a 7 hour interval.

 

[audreyh1]

As I'm sitting here, drinking my coffee after getting up at my usual 5am, I look down and see that it's actually 4am, I realize that ship has sailed for today. Try again tomorrow.

Why adjust? It’s the same body and sun time.

 

[Golden Mean]

Why adjust? It’s the same body and sun time.

I think, even for a retiree, ignoring the time change is untenable. GF has workouts, massages and occasional medical checkups. All typically happen in the early AM.

Also, we are now committed to the Costco executive early hour(s).

 

[audreyh1]

I think, even for a retiree, ignoring the time change is untenable. GF has workouts, massages and occasional medical checkups. All typically happen in the early AM.

Also, we are now committed to the Costco executive early hour(s).

Of course, if you have regular same time weekly appointments the time change is going to affect you.

However it’s not untenable at all. We are truly not impacted. I have a couple of appointments in a couple of weeks, but the times don’t make a difference at all - they are just some random assigned times during the day as far as I am concerned. They could have been earlier or later with no difference to me.

If I had children at home, in school, or working, or went to church at the same time every Sunday, or had my favorite TV shows I watched every evening, I would be impacted to a large degree and would have to switch my daily schedule to the new standard hours.

I’m saying the time change doesn’t impact my daily schedule or lifestyle because that is not based on some fixed clock. It has nothing to do with whether I occasionally have an appointment at a certain time. And mercifully I have very few appointments and can go weeks without any at all.

 

[aja8888]

My dog doesn't care what time it is as long as we go out for walks (dark or light out) and the food dish is serviced!

 

[MichaelB]

One immediate impact from the time change is now when I walk in the morning (7 am-ish) it’s light out. That’s good. Safer for me.

 

[Markola]

I’m sure we all appreciate the extra hour of daylight to allow us to save fuel to support the war effort.