Do you balance your checkbook?

I would find a new bank.
Why? Mistakes happen more than you might realize. Checks are processed by scanner these days, not humans. Sometimes the scanner misreads a digit. My mom's handwriting isn't what it used to be and this has happened 2 or 3 times in the past couple of years. When I look at the check, I can tell what it was intended to say but I can also understand why the scanner misinterpreted it.
 
I'm quite sure I have paid for way more than 72 pizzas since 2001 but there's no way to know since most or all were bought with a credit card. There would be no line item entry anywhere for "pizza".

The Memo section in Quicken is what I use to type a brief description that allows me to search for the record.
 
I'm quite sure I have paid for way more than 72 pizzas since 2001 but there's no way to know since most or all were bought with a credit card. There would be no line item entry anywhere for "pizza".
Not intending to hijack this thread to be a Quicken thread, but this is another thing that I feel Quicken does better than my old paper check register or even my excel spreadsheet. In the paper register, I would just write one line item when I paid my credit card "Visa Bill $1000" but no granularity into what that $1000 was actually spent on -- I would have to look it up on my statement or cc website. Now, as credit card transactions come into Quicken I categorize them a couple times a week and I can get real numbers of what I spent money on, across all accounts regardless of whether I paid by check, credit card, debit card, etc. We rarely spend cash but if I take out money from the ATM for a specific purpose -- say, over $100 -- that gets properly "categorized" too.

To the specific topic, I don't think I have the personality to never balance or reconcile my checkbook. I am too type A (if it isn't obvious 😂).
 
Yes the categories are great, and many are automatically assigned based on previous history so it’s little work. And doesn’t matter how you paid for it.

I just have dining and travel:dining as eating out (or to go) categories. No more granular than that.
 
I spent my 30 years working as an accountant - so I use Quicken to track my bank accounts and excel spreadsheet to track my investments. Since I am retired - this is my link to my prior life.
 
The only error I can recall is back in the 90's. I was going to Europe for several weeks. Prior to going, I over paid my bills using checks. I think one bill was $70, and I paid $170. The company cashed the check for $70 and it cleared the bank for $70. The check image was clearly $170. It didn't cause any issues, but it was clearly an error.
 
Not intending to hijack this thread to be a Quicken thread, but this is another thing that I feel Quicken does better than my old paper check register or even my excel spreadsheet. In the paper register, I would just write one line item when I paid my credit card "Visa Bill $1000" but no granularity into what that $1000 was actually spent on -- I would have to look it up on my statement or cc website.
Our credit cards give a year-end summary broken down by category: dining, auto, travel, etc. I still wouldn't know how much I spent on pizza, though.
 
You made me look...

I've spent $1,274.24 on pizza since January 1st, 2019. That was across 50 transactions. That's an average of $25.48 per purchase.

Sorry. I couldn't resist. Carry on.
 
I have not read the whole thread, but I'm not aware of any on-line banks that offer a sort of 'electronic register'. It seems obvious to me, and easily implemented, but I guess no demand? An example:

Say I have a $1,234.56 balance in my 'checking account' (that I almost never write 'checks' from!). I know I have a electronic withdrawal coming up next week of $500. I'd like to be able to make that pending debit known to the account (if done through bill-pay on that account, it could be automatic), to see an adjusted balance that accounts for those known withdrawals, so it would show a 'reserve' of $734.56. So I know I can't write a check for more than that 'reserve'. And after that bill is paid, the 'reserve' and 'actual' balance would be the same (assuming no other known pending debits).

Like-wise, if I do write a check, I'd enter the amount and # into the account 'register' on-line, so I would see a lower 'reserve' balance. And when that #/amount check hits, it removes it from 'reserve' to actual.

It just mimics what most of us did with our old-time paper & pencil check registers.

Maybe this already exists somewhere? And I'm not talking about a separate program like Quicken, I mean integrated into the bank/CU checking account on-line.
 
That's a good point. What the paper register and local software like Quicken let you do is enter transactions before the bank knows about them. I can see how someone who doesn't use one of these options is left trying to juggle upcoming transactions and checks which haven't cleared yet in their heads.

Another reason to use some "local" tracking of your own. Not sure any bank is going to invest in creating the software to do this on their web site, but it would be handy for a lot of people.
 
I have not read the whole thread, but I'm not aware of any on-line banks that offer a sort of 'electronic register'. It seems obvious to me, and easily implemented, but I guess no demand? An example:

Say I have a $1,234.56 balance in my 'checking account' (that I almost never write 'checks' from!). I know I have a electronic withdrawal coming up next week of $500. I'd like to be able to make that pending debit known to the account (if done through bill-pay on that account, it could be automatic), to see an adjusted balance that accounts for those known withdrawals, so it would show a 'reserve' of $734.56. So I know I can't write a check for more than that 'reserve'. And after that bill is paid, the 'reserve' and 'actual' balance would be the same (assuming no other known pending debits).

Like-wise, if I do write a check, I'd enter the amount and # into the account 'register' on-line, so I would see a lower 'reserve' balance. And when that #/amount check hits, it removes it from 'reserve' to actual.

It just mimics what most of us did with our old-time paper & pencil check registers.

Maybe this already exists somewhere? And I'm not talking about a separate program like Quicken, I mean integrated into the bank/CU checking account on-line.
That might make sense for folks who write a lot of checks, several per week, but almost none of us do that anymore.

What I do is just keep a decently large amount in checking (~$10k) so that I never have to worry about it...
 
That might make sense for folks who write a lot of checks, several per week, but almost none of us do that anymore.

What I do is just keep a decently large amount in checking (~$10k) so that I never have to worry about it...

Most people, including some members here that are living frugally, can't afford to just leave a $10k cushion.

It isn't just about tracking checks, if you keep a budget then you've already tagged funds for various other uses that just hasn't been spent yet. My "checkbook" spreadsheet tracks 4 things: deposits, debit charges (immediate spending), checks (imminent spending, although this is extremely rare now), and budget (future spending). Deposits are immediately divided up among the various budgeted "funds" until they are used as a debit charge or check.

All to say, @ERD50 's hypothetical system could/should be doing all of these things.
 
Most people, including some members here that are living frugally, can't afford to just leave a $10k cushion.

It isn't just about tracking checks, if you keep a budget then you've already tagged funds for various other uses that just hasn't been spent yet. My "checkbook" spreadsheet tracks 4 things: deposits, debit charges (immediate spending), checks (imminent spending, although this is extremely rare now), and budget (future spending). Deposits are immediately divided up among the various budgeted "funds" until they are used as a debit charge or check.

All to say, @ERD50 's hypothetical system could/should be doing all of these things.
You can adjust your target checking account balance depending on your level of spending.
Mine used to be $5000, but sometimes a quarterly property tax bill and large CC payments (due to travel expenses) would hit the same month.
I don't need any aggravation due to low cash balance nowadays...
 
All of my financial accounts are in Quicken. I enter any expected bills and the date into Quicken. I also use billpay from a couple of accounts online and Quicken has the same info. I almost never write a physical check. For many of my recurring bills I have them set up as autopay in billpay, and some like credit cards that change I get ebills and can autopay the varying amounts. I use Quicken to track this too.

I am able to download most of my financial account transactions into Quicken. So for most accounts when I get the monthly statement, I reconcile it in Quicken. Update any new bill info, etc. My calendar app has reminders of when statements are expected each month.

So basically Quicken is my register, and everything is highly automated. I like that I can look ahead with Quicken and see what bills are coming due in the next 30 days, for example, and which account is paying them. I can see what is expected to be paid over the whole year too: quarterly estimated taxes, biannual and annual expenses like insurance and property taxes.

I’ve been doing things this way for decades.
+1 I download transactions from Quicken every few days using One-Step Update and review/accept the downloaded transactions over my morning coffee. I reconcile to the downloaded balance every so often.

These days our checking account activity is sparse; my pension, DW's SS, a couple credit card bills on auto pay and a few checks here and there.... 15 items in Dec 2024 and 18 items in Nov 2024.
 
Checks cashed for the wrong amount.
Fees charged incorrectly.

More commonly I find mistakes I made which are just as important as it means the balance I thought I had wasn’t accurate.
I haven't had a bank error in 20 years or more. If you "commonly" find mistakes you need to move to a different bank.
 
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I do balance checkbook and my MM fund and credit cards in quicken. No paper check register.

I do write checks here and there, such as to kids selling door-to-door, medical bills, etc.

I do "account" for my spending in quicken so I know exactly what I was spending on as Audreyh and Zona described..

I do not do a budget. I just use my spending level to forecast future monthly spending needs so I can set an auto transfer of cash to fund.

I also spent my career as a financial person so this comes naturally and I like having the data.

One great advantage of electronic records and coding is I know exactly when and where I bought a battery for that car 5 years ago, where we ate in Bermuda a couple of decades ago (and what it cost) and how old that AV switch was that smoked and died a month ago.

Some may not care to know these things but it is useful.
 
I haven't had a bank error in 20 years or more. If you "commonly" find mistakes you need to move to a different bank.
Definitely not a common occurrence. And as I said, I mainly find mistakes I made which are more common and even more important.
 
I also use Quicken and haven't used a paper register for many, many years. My reconcile process is almost always a verification that the balance shown online matches my balance in Quicken for a specific date. The checking and savings accounts almost always match although right now I have a $20 check from August that still has not been debited. The reconciliation of our primary credit card takes the longest because I frequently forget to record my DH's online purchases in a timely manner.
 
...Over the years, I found hundreds of errors (that I made, but were perfectly legit), and maybe 5 credit card goofs that might have saved me a hundred bucks. Dividing our the hourly rate comes to about $0.0001 per hour. It's the dumbest thing I do.
I run Quicken at least once a day generally, and I try to account for every charge and payment that I can. This is mostly useful for keeping track of things for financial archeology later, end-of-year spending evaluations, and a general understanding and feeling of control.

At any given time my checking account balance in Quicken might be off $20-$60 from the bank. I'd like it to be zero, but that's not what I'm worrying about with Quicken. As @sengsational put it, that's not the point or the value of tracking. I have found my own mistakes frequently, but major errors (deposits to the wrong account by a teller) reveal themselves immediately.
 
I just spend a few minutes every weekend catching up on various accounts. End of the year is a little busier.
 
I balance checking monthly with a Checkbook app on my Mac desktop. Simepl, lets me search checks paper and electronic transactions and makes taxes easy.
 
That might make sense for folks who write a lot of checks, several per week, but almost none of us do that anymore.

What I do is just keep a decently large amount in checking (~$10k) so that I never have to worry about it...
Right, we don't write many checks either, but I have a lot of automatic withdrawals, and it would be nice to see the whole picture of what the reserve is to know when and how much to add.

I also normally keep a good buffer in there, but at the end of this year, I knew I had some larger deposits coming in, and I cut it close because I really didn't want to sell anything and incur more LTCG before the end of the year, when I probably had enough anyhow. So I was watching closely. Turns out I did get hit with an unexpected bill, I decided to take out $2,000 from my LOC against my stocks (I set that up to pay cash for our house and got the mortgage later). Cost me something like $10 in interest, and no tax paperwork.

Regardless of your or my situation, it would be handy for a lot of people, and it seems it should be offered.
 
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