E-biking touring through central Italy

The guy who was setting up our last ride in Florida said to consider getting fenders for splash back on wet roads. We got a little example of this while riding & I now see the wisdom of his comment.

Even if just a little wetness, it's like a continuous spritzing of contaminated road water.

We were on 500w motors and I could see an argument for a higher watt motor for elevation climb. Also a seat shock post...
Absolutely. All the bikes we rented came with fenders, which helped a great deal.
No comparison...a totally different animal. Happy travels!
Electric mountain bikes are indeed a different kind of machine. We're both life-long road bikers and competent mountain bikers. We tend to prefer mellow cross-country riding, but being able to point up anything and just go is a game-changer with an e-bike. Even when entering some medieval towns, being able to pedal up steep cobblestone inclines and stairs without breaking a sweat changes things dramatically compared to cranking/pushing some touring bike up a hill for part of an hour.

Our plan isn't to cover much ground or spend a lot of time riding each day. Maybe pedal for a few hours, get lunch, and then pedal for another few hours to our next dinner/overnight destination with stops along the way. When you're not showing up sweaty and out of breath everywhere, it makes sightseeing a bit easier.
 
Look into Santana Adventures. They do river and ocean cruises all over the world, targeted at experienced cyclists. They visit just about every country in Europe on their various cruises. No worries about having to move between hotels, they have bike repair and rental on board (including *good* ebikes, not glorified scooters), multiple routes each day, sag service, etc. It is run by the founders of Santana Tandems, and there are a lot of tandem riders, but the majority of people these days are on single bikes, and a lot of them are ebikes.
I considered them, but after reading many terrible reviews, I'm too afraid to try them.
 
Sounds exciting but costly relative to this ebike offer I am considering. I was ready to start a thread but seen your post. This foldable bike seems too good to be true but has good reviews. This bike would be a back up for travel and back roads in large park areas. Anybody have experience with these short 14" bikes (wheels)?
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Wow, less than $200? Amazing.
 
Wow, less than $200? Amazing.
There are now quite a few folding e-bikes for under $1000 that have much better features such as slightly larger wheels, fat tires, and more substantial battery/motor.
 
My wife and I have taken several bike trips in Europe, usually one week stints within longer stays. My thoughts:

1. There are real advantages to booking through a wholesaler. We've booked our last two longer trips through a British based wholesaler, Natural Adventures (which we've also used for hiking trips). You're still travelling independently, but the wholesaler books hotels, transfers luggage, arranges bikes, sometimes includes short bus or vehicle transfers/shortcuts (e.g., on a couple of long uphills in the Alps), and provides detailed maps and route guidance. Natural adventures was quite reasonably priced, but some of the better known tour operators (e.g., backroads) can be much more expensive.

2. Now that we're getting older (mid 60s and mid 70s), we've rented electric bikes for our last couple of trips (Passau to Vienna on the Danube bike path and Portugal to Spain across the Algarve). Not only does that save a lot of sweat and energy (particularly on unavoidable short steep uphills), but you arrive at your destination each night with enough energy to take sometimes very interesting sidetrips, many of which would difficult without an electric!

3. It is important to consider your route, the season, and the extent to which your route is bike friendly. Busier secondary roads can be crowded and scary (and often don't have dedicated bike lanes). We were much happier on tertiary country roads and even happier on dedicated bike routes! In this regard, the Danube bike path (about 95% bikes only) was wonderful. Similarly, we've followed wonderful dedicated bike paths along the Inn River (think Innsbruck to Salzberg). We were more often on roads in the Algarve, which was fine in April, but I'm not sure what it would have been like in high season. When we were hiking and car touring in the Dolomites late one spring ,we passed literally hundreds of bikes on the very busy (and often bike unfriendly) mountain roads.

4. Many hotels rent bikes (often electric) and there are other bike rental locations in most cities. So it's often fun to rent for 2 or 3 days for "spoke and wheel" trips with no need to book additional hotels or worry about luggage transfers. We've done this in the Innsbruck area and also in the Loire valley.

5. We are thinking about taking another bike trip late next spring from Innsbruk to Bolzano (likely through Natural Adventures) and would love to hear from anyone who's done it.
 
My wife and I have taken several bike trips in Europe, usually one week stints within longer stays. My thoughts:

1. There are real advantages to booking through a wholesaler. We've booked our last two longer trips through a British based wholesaler, Natural Adventures (which we've also used for hiking trips). You're still travelling independently, but the wholesaler books hotels, transfers luggage, arranges bikes, sometimes includes short bus or vehicle transfers/shortcuts (e.g., on a couple of long uphills in the Alps), and provides detailed maps and route guidance. Natural adventures was quite reasonably priced, but some of the better known tour operators (e.g., backroads) can be much more expensive.

2. Now that we're getting older (mid 60s and mid 70s), we've rented electric bikes for our last couple of trips (Passau to Vienna on the Danube bike path and Portugal to Spain across the Algarve). Not only does that save a lot of sweat and energy (particularly on unavoidable short steep uphills), but you arrive at your destination each night with enough energy to take sometimes very interesting sidetrips, many of which would difficult without an electric!

3. It is important to consider your route, the season, and the extent to which your route is bike friendly. Busier secondary roads can be crowded and scary (and often don't have dedicated bike lanes). We were much happier on tertiary country roads and even happier on dedicated bike routes! In this regard, the Danube bike path (about 95% bikes only) was wonderful. Similarly, we've followed wonderful dedicated bike paths along the Inn River (think Innsbruck to Salzberg). We were more often on roads in the Algarve, which was fine in April, but I'm not sure what it would have been like in high season. When we were hiking and car touring in the Dolomites late one spring ,we passed literally hundreds of bikes on the very busy (and often bike unfriendly) mountain roads.

4. Many hotels rent bikes (often electric) and there are other bike rental locations in most cities. So it's often fun to rent for 2 or 3 days for "spoke and wheel" trips with no need to book additional hotels or worry about luggage transfers. We've done this in the Innsbruck area and also in the Loire valley.

5. We are thinking about taking another bike trip late next spring from Innsbruk to Bolzano (likely through Natural Adventures) and would love to hear from anyone who's done it.
Those sound like some wonderful trips, and agree that e-bikes avoid the problem of arriving everywhere exhausted.

We travel light and prefer to book our own hotels and transfers, and set our own schedule. Those mountain roads are actually one place where I felt safer on an e-bike. Being able to pedal uphill at 50km/hr is far less dangerous than slogging along at a fraction of that on those mountain roads.
 
Sounds exciting but costly relative to this ebike offer I am considering. I was ready to start a thread but seen your post. This foldable bike seems too good to be true but has good reviews. This bike would be a back up for travel and back roads in large park areas. Anybody have experience with these short 14" bikes (wheels)?
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This would be a good bike for a trip to the store or something very short. For enjoyable riding you want a full size bike and battery. I can't imagine this would be comfortable for more than a few minutes.
I also question the seller, is it legit??
 
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