Coming? At least 39 states already do. I paid an additional $214.50 last year, more than an ICE driver would have paid in road taxes for the miles I drive. But I’m saving over $600/yr gas versus home charging even though I only drive about 8000-9000 miles/yr, so I’m not worried.
Probably. My assumptions were 7.5 cents per kWh electric (marginal rate) and $3.00 per gallon at 30 mpg on gas. Sounds like you’d still be saving driving an EV in HI.
If I had a place to charge an EV I would be very tempted. I like the technology and the acceleration.
Exactly. That’s what I meant. A regular driver using gas in TX would have paid at most $100, probably less. And I think they were originally going to set it to $100, but suddenly decided to grab $200 instead.
Americans tend to buy for peak needs, hence all the big vehicles. I suspect that public charging infrastructure could stay marginal for a long time. There's ideological issues in rural areas, and local control of infrastructure may mean that suppliers just won't fight to install it.
We're in Virginia, and I'm paying 12 cents per kWh before local fees and fixed charges (14 cents all-in). I didn't think there would be anywhere below 10 cents anymore.
I don't know if any other state does it, but my electrical utility charges a fixed base charge of $40/month for all users, and then on average 7.48 cents/kWh on all usage. So my 'marginal rate' is the latter since EV charging is on top of what I was paying. Frankly I don't think the rate structure is fair as it punishes low usage and rewards high usage.
Our rates are all per kWh no base rate. Transmission charge is half of it and varies slightly, the other half is what the provider charges and is fixed by contract. So we’re around 15c/kWh.
Well your state may be attempting to come up with a new way of doing it, but several states have already come up with a flat fee structure for EVs that doesn’t require tracking miles driven.
Seems like solar charging would be well worth it there considering how expensive electricity is. Even a small array of 4000 watts would charge up your vehicle over a couple of sunny Hawaiian days.
I would love to see the gas tax replaced by a true usage tax.
Sounds good on paper, but I’m sure you’ve read all the gnashing of teeth on how to accurately track mileage. Privacy issues with onboard trackers, vehicle weight based or not, miles driven in multiple states, registration inspections to verify/update miles driven not often enough in some states. How to figure in Federal road taxes? New tax collection personnel, whereas now it's built in at filling stations. And on and on…
Very true. But we have two significant issues around solar. Our electric company has very little ability to absorb extra solar power, so off-grid charing with solar is likely the only viable solution for most people.
The base 2wd version of the Equinox is priced well after the rebate. I hope it sells well. Most EVs sold in the US to date have been fairly expensive. As prices come down there will be more sales.
These are all manageable though. The technology is there.
We currently have a flat fee. $75 for hybrids, and IIRC, $250 for fully electric vehicles. However, that is thought to be inherently unfair to low-mileage drivers who end up subsidizing high mileage drivers.
Until they can figure how to tax at-home charging (without charging for other electrical usage,) I doubt we'll come close to a universally "fair" system. Unfortunate, but we're changing paradigms and that always leads to unexpected issues.
Seems like an unnecessarily convoluted way to go about it. Weight and miles driven are the direct variables. There are already several ways to capture both.
I was getting quotes to install a charger and some electricians were telling me that I had to get thousands in panel upgrades. I contacted my city permitting dept. and they said there were no such requirements.
If I’m reading the latest tariff proclamation correctly (not restricted to Canada, Mexico, China) it will also impact EVs from Audi all, BMW all, Mini, Genesis-Hyundai-Kia all, Honda Prologue, Lexus 450e, MB most, Polestar most, Porsche, Subaru, Toyota, Volvo most. But of course the details have already changed several times. Who knows…
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I would imagine the need to upgrade the panel was a technical requirement and not a city requirement, although the work would likely require a city permit. There is no way I could add a 220V charger to my panel without an expensive upgrade, just no more room in the panel. There might be cheaper options like piggy backing off of your dryer power, that's what I would end up doing if I had the need for an EV charger.
