First World Tax Problem - thoughts please

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OK - help me reason through this please. Sometimes, I get stuck in one train of thought so opinions are welcome.

In early December my old business sold to private equity and my multi year buy out received monthly was converted to a lump sum payment. Good and bad - that plus other income plopped me into the 37% bracket.
I did not spend any of that money - the majority went into a muni CEF and an MLP. I foolishly only saved 28% for taxes and sent that in already. The rest went into money market SWVXX , which is my capital expenditure fund for things like a new roof a new car, etc.. An important caveat here is I am an income investor and will not sell shares to offset the tax hit or future cap ex items. Also, I pride myself on reinvesting 10-20% of dividend income each month thus compounding my monthly income. Another important item is due to K-1's coming in late from real estate holdings I always file in Sept. or early October. So that gives me 9 months of tax holdings from my regular monthly dividends. Saving all that, plus what I already paid still leaves me about $50K short.

So here are my options as I see it: Pay the roughly $50K from my cap-ex account and slowly rebuild that over time or not. This allows me to continue my routine reinvestment plan and increase my income. But leaves me with a smaller cap-ex account. Or, divert all income earmarked for reinvestment, the majority of which is in an IRA, and use that to pay help down the estimated $50K of needed taxes. My tax rate will be much lower for 2026, but that move would increase income received..so..
Thanks
 
Are you familiar with QSBS, qualified small business stock? I am not sure if it still is in the tax code, but when I sold my business it saved me a bunch of money.

 
Never heard of QSBS. But I'm afraid that is not something that is applicable. I'll look, any thoughts on the original question?

Edit: I looked and the first criteria is the biz had to be structured as a C Corp. We were an S-corp. Not applicable
 
Never heard of QSBS. But I'm afraid that is not something that is applicable. I'll look, any thoughts on the original question?

Edit: I looked and the first criteria is the biz had to be structured as a C Corp. We were an S-corp. Not applicable
As to the original question, if it were me, all money is fungible so pay the tax. Where it comes from is immaterial. You are letting your mental accounting get in the way,
 
So here are my options as I see it: Pay the roughly $50K from my cap-ex account and slowly rebuild that over time or not. This allows me to continue my routine reinvestment plan and increase my income. But leaves me with a smaller cap-ex account. Or, divert all income earmarked for reinvestment, the majority of which is in an IRA, and use that to pay help down the estimated $50K of needed taxes. My tax rate will be much lower for 2026, but that move would increase income received..so..
Sounds like your cap-ex account is your emergency fund. It also sounds like your other option is to pull from an IRA.

Are you over 59.5?
If you use your cap-ex account, will you have to pull from your IRA to rebuild it?
If you pull from your cap-ex account, will that create a liquidity issue?
Do you expect to need your cap-ex fund soon?

I don't know your complete picture, so it is hard to say what is best. If you pull from IRA, it creates additional taxes. Using your cap-ex reduces taxes. I would probably use the cap-ex, but a lot of information is missing. You could also do a mixture of the two options.
 
Sounds like your cap-ex account is your emergency fund. It also sounds like your other option is to pull from an IRA.

Are you over 59.5?
If you use your cap-ex account, will you have to pull from your IRA to rebuild it?
If you pull from your cap-ex account, will that create a liquidity issue?
Do you expect to need your cap-ex fund soon?

I don't know your complete picture, so it is hard to say what is best. If you pull from IRA, it creates additional taxes. Using your cap-ex reduces taxes. I would probably use the cap-ex, but a lot of information is missing. You could also do a mixture of the two options.
Yes, 62 yrs old soon. And Yes I think of my Cap -ex acct as an emergency fund. I could rebuild the cap ex acct from dividends, I won't pull a lump sum. SO, again that decreases reinvestment rates in doing so. Hmm...I could do a mixture of the two. I could stop reinvestment on my taxable acct. withdrawals and use that toward the tax deficit and continue to reinvest in the IRA.
Still leaves a chunk to pay in the fall but it would be a bit smaller of a draw from the cap-ex acct.
 
Could you clarify this is “ordinary income” & not long term capital gains? Will it trigger Niit?

Have you modeled the taxes using a calculator (or just paper/pencil using 37%)?

If you had realized 6 weeks ago, how would you have invested lump sum? I’d probably just undo & write off the 6 week misstep to experience.

Last note, I gathered you perhaps usually use an extension to file in sept/oct…if so, doesn’t that give you an extension to file but not extend time to pay? I know some do that & pay the penalty that isn’t large…sounds like this might be?

Good luck with your decision
 
sell some of whatever you "invested too much in" to obtain the amount you should have held back originally. The rest is a mental cage of your own creation.
 
If you don't want to create additional tax liability, then your Cap-Ex account is the only choice if you have no other savings accounts. As you say, you can divert taxable interest to rebuild that account - you do pay taxes on earnings but they will be lower do to your withdrawal, until it's re-established.

At age 62, I wouldn't draw any T-IRA money unless you intend to start converting to a Roth account. 100% of everything in your T-IRA is taxable if you made deposits with pre-tax $$$.
 
COcheesehead nailed it. Money is fungible and all you are doing is some mental accounting.

I don't see much merit to reinvesting 10-20% of dividend income each month if you need that money for expenses, such as taxes.

So you could not reinvest that 10-20% of dividend income so as to have an additional $50k available to pay taxes in 9 months or you cold pay the $50k out of SVWXX and replenish it over time. Not sure it matters economically, so chose whatever you feel most comfortable with.
 
Could you clarify this is “ordinary income” & not long term capital gains? Will it trigger Niit?

Have you modeled the taxes using a calculator (or just paper/pencil using 37%)?

If you had realized 6 weeks ago, how would you have invested lump sum? I’d probably just undo & write off the 6 week misstep to experience.

Last note, I gathered you perhaps usually use an extension to file in sept/oct…if so, doesn’t that give you an extension to file but not extend time to pay? I know some do that & pay the penalty that isn’t large…sounds like this might be?

Good luck with your decision
Should be classified as long term cap gains in my mind. Probably worth an email to the accountant. Yes, I used an online calculator to estimate. Yep, I file an extension and pay late - been doing it for 15 + years. Not ideal it's how it works out.
If you don't want to create additional tax liability, then your Cap-Ex account is the only choice if you have no other savings accounts. As you say, you can divert taxable interest to rebuild that account - you do pay taxes on earnings but they will be lower do to your withdrawal, until it's re-established.

At age 62, I wouldn't draw any T-IRA money unless you intend to start converting to a Roth account. 100% of everything in your T-IRA is taxable if you made deposits with pre-tax $$$.
Been drawing dividend income from the IRA since I retired.
I don't see much merit to reinvesting 10-20% of dividend income each month if you need that money for expenses, such as taxes.
Yep, I agree with this statement. I know I'm just mentally making more out of this than needs be but it's helpful to run it by the group - since my two Cavalier King Charles Spaniels just seem to stare at me when I ask them.
 
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