Good food is not luxury in retirement — it is preventive maintenance for the body

We probably spend $750+ mo just on food. 50% cooked at home and 50% eating out. (Lot's of junk food in-between) Never consider what's good for us and what's not and never look at the prices. If we like it, we buy it.

Life's to short. And yes I know, it will probably be shorter based on our eating habits.
While I intend to keep exercising and watching my weight I’m going to eat what I want to. My friends with the healthiest eating habits are all dead. I am starting to think genetics and luck is more important.
 
While I intend to keep exercising and watching my weight I’m going to eat what I want to. My friends with the healthiest eating habits are all dead. I am starting to think genetics and luck is more important.
Excellent point regarding "all dead", I'm sorry to say...
 
I'm single, rarely eat out and my groceries are running about $500/month. Most of my groceries come from Costco. That amount excludes alcohol and includes very few cleaning products (I have a cleaning lady) but does include supplements, which can get pricey. My diet is mostly vegetables, yogurt and lean proteins.

So, yeah, that diet is expensive. Yesterday I was near a higher-priced local chain and wanted to get tofu, which I haven't been able to find lately at Costco or my regular grocery store. It was $6.99 (plus tax) for a 10.8-ounce carton, which works out to about $10/lb. with tax. I just checked the on-line fliers at my usual grocery store and I can get a boneless quarter ham, lunch meat and hot dogs for less per pound. Of course most come with more fat, more sodium and, in the case of lunch meat preservatives. Ramen is probably still cheap but it's a fat and calorie bomb. I buy Great Grains bread- wonderfully loaded with sprouts, seeds and texture but $8 to $9 per loaf.

If I were determined to eat as well as I do now on a budget I'd have to shop a lot harder for specials and probably buy more pork and chicken and less seafood (shrimp is my only real splurge in that category) but I bet I still couldn't get it below $400 unless I started cutting out protein powder and supplements.

I have pretty much gotten down to just Costco and Aldi for groceries, and while I know I am saving, it’s still expensive. I think paying a lot for groceries is an investment, if it means cutting out a lot of salt and other unwanted ingredients.
 
Yes, produce can be expensive, but less so if you make some attempt to buy what's in season. Other than that, what adds the most expense is meat. Over the years I've become at least 75% vegetarian and eat mainly legumes - chickpeas, lentils, beans, and the like - all made delicious with lots of Indian spices, both dried and fresh. Even the abundant spices used are really cheap an an Indian grocery store (never at a regular grocer!).

I'll get an 8 oz. cut of ribeye on sale a few times a year and eat some chicken a couple times a week. Other than the occasional serving of goat or lamb with Indian takeout I have low food expense. And while we're not talking about alcohol specifically - it doesn't take more than a few bottles of wine and liquor to add up to a lot so being a teetotaler helps keep my total budget low as well.
 
Everyone talks about the benefits of cooking at home, and I agree. If you can cook and you also enjoy it, that's fantastic. But no one talks about the dirty dishes.

Man, we have a lot of dirty dishes. And spend a lot of time keeping the kitchen clean.
 
Everyone talks about the benefits of cooking at home, and I agree. If you can cook and you also enjoy it, that's fantastic. But no one talks about the dirty dishes.

Man, we have a lot of dirty dishes. And spend a lot of time keeping the kitchen clean.
It’s true that cooking at home uses a lot of dishes, but we’ve gotten very efficient at it. I tend to cook larger batches so we eat plenty of leftovers, sometimes freeze leftovers. I’m usually cooking just twice a week, occasionally 3 times. Steaming vegetables makes little mess. I use the instant pot, grill or smoker for plenty of it, cleanup is not so onerous.

DH makes most of the breakfasts using his handy cast iron skillet - quick clean up there. DH also does a lot of the cleanup for main meals while I do most of the cooking. Our dishwasher handles a great deal of it. I also do the meal planning.
 
There’s no doubt that the cleanup from cooking is a chore, but it’s worth it. Though I admit, when we think about a going out to eat, it’s primarily due to the cleanup that we’re trying to avoid. Still, we don’t eat out too often.
 
I have never been much of a cook. I am so glad I am living in a Continuing Care Retirement Community with a gourmet chef. Food is excellent, lots of healthy options. Some poster said we eat less as we get older--not so for DH and I at age 75, we are eating more than ever! Of course we go to the fitness center every day and get lots of exercise. I am always hungry and look forward to the next great meal.
 
When my wife cooks, the kitchen ends up looking like something exploded and the cleanup is brutal :)
Doing dishes... I don't mind, mopping up after her is not so fun.
Man, I can relate! When I retired, our division of labor included KP duty for me because my wife does most of the cooking - and she’s a fantastic cook! I do all of the cooking in our outdoor kitchen, though - smoking and grilling. I also have a portable induction burner out there for fish and anything else that we may choose to cook outside and avoid the smell inside.
 
One thing I increasingly notice in retirement is how much real food quality costs once you stop buying by habit and start buying by standard. Truly good ingredients—especially certain foods where freshness and source matter—can become surprisingly expensive, yet they also feel like one of the few expenses that directly affect daily health and long-term well-being.

For example, I realized that for just one category of food alone, I spend roughly $400 a month. Why are some foods expensive—is it scarcity, labor, transport, freshness, regulation, or simply that truly high-quality production cannot be industrialized cheaply?
True, but when you have a job, you end up eating out at least a couple times a week, even when you are pretty disciplined on the brown bag. That basically doubles the cost of the meal, so eating well when retired may be a bit more expensive but likely not a huge cost over food while you were working.
 
Everyone talks about the benefits of cooking at home, and I agree. If you can cook and you also enjoy it, that's fantastic. But no one talks about the dirty dishes.

Man, we have a lot of dirty dishes. And spend a lot of time keeping the kitchen clean.
Thinking ahead and re-using are the key to reducing clutter during cooking. I can cook the same menu with half the amount of things to wash than DW. You can't take the engineering out of an engineer. I still remember the teachings of the best engineering class I took which applies to a lot of non-engineering things: Production management.
 
When my wife cooks, the kitchen ends up looking like something exploded and the cleanup is brutal :)
Doing dishes... I don't mind, mopping up after her is not so fun.
I didn't realize that this is a thing. DW uses way more tools than I do when I cook. Too many gadgets when a knife and a skillet would take care of most of the cooking needs. She also doesn't understand the clean as you go method. Still, hard for me to complain since she does do most of the cooking.
 
Probably true, but at my age, it's too late to switch over to a kale and quinoa diet...
Not sure about kale, but a cup of quinoa and black beans, covered with crumbled bacon, and a few eggs fried in the bacon fat is pretty darn good. Add a layer of your favorite real dairy cheese.
 
I can’t stand the taste of kale. Our grocery store used to have a large selection of handy pre-washed greens including collard, turnip, mustard, mixed, etc., but now they carry only kale. :confused: I guess someone likes it!
 
I can’t stand the taste of kale.
Spinach is much milder and has many of the same benefits as kale. I start every day with a smoothie that includes a fistful of fresh spinach (along with a carrot and celery stick.) The fruit (1 banana, frozen cherries and frozen blueberries), along with almond butter and almond milk provide enough flavor that I don’t even taste the veggies. It’s delicious and nutritious at the same time!
 
I can’t stand the taste of kale. Our grocery store used to have a large selection of handy pre-washed greens including collard, turnip, mustard, mixed, etc., but now they carry only kale. :confused: I guess someone likes it!
Okay, I’m curious. You like collards (tough), mustard greens (soft but pungent), and turnip greens (?), but not kale? What is it about kale you don’t like?
 
Spinach is much milder and has many of the same benefits as kale. I start every day with a smoothie that includes a fistful of fresh spinach (along with a carrot and celery stick.) The fruit (1 banana, frozen cherries and frozen blueberries), along with almond butter and almond milk provide enough flavor that I don’t even taste the veggies. It’s delicious and nutritious at the same time!
Oh we love spinach. But sometimes I just want to make a big pot of collard greens southern style, and I miss the big bags of prewashed greens. It’s so quick and easy in the instant pot.
 
Okay, I’m curious. You like collards (tough), mustard greens (soft but pungent), and turnip greens (?), but not kale? What is it about kale you don’t like?
Oh something about the flavor, even the smell, just ugh! It’s a real turn-off.

My collards aren’t tough at all. You just need to cook them right,
 
Oh something about the flavor, even the smell, just ugh! It’s a real turn-off.

My collards aren’t tough at all. You just need to cook them right,
Interesting, as kale has no smell to my nose. Mustard greens, yes, a little. Spinach has a more distinctive smell to me than kale. Maybe it’s one of those things our bodies respond to individually like cilantro?

Now that you mention home-grown collards, I recall a TV show in which a commercial grower harvested them young and apparently tender—almost a different vegetable entirely. The stuff I see in the market is tough as leather, which is why the traditional Southern preparation involves boiling for hours.
 
I basically agree and I cook a lot of relatively simple recipes at home.

But there are some recipes/dishes/cuisines that are either too complicated or or too hard to replicate the flavor properly that I tend to use restaurants for, either eat-in or takeout. Examples:
Fried clams
Sushi
Indian cuisine
Most Sichuan cuisine...
I've been making Indian cuisine for 30 years. There are a lot of shortcuts. Recently I found a website which describes making various Indian dishes using a base sauce and customizing. He said it's more like what we are used to in restaurants rather than "authentic". So I made a a bunch of the base sauce and froze quantities which allow me to make several meals such as lamb saag, chicken tikka masala and others with much less time and effort than following the "authentic" recipes do. The website's name is The Curry Guy. Much of the work can be done ahead of time.

But cooking is also a hobby for me.

Also, growing herbs saves a lot of money. Oregano is basically an invasive weed in my garden; a sage plant planted from seeds turns into a bush and takes no care at all other than pruning, and even rosemary survives most winters. I had a cilantro plant go to seed; I collected the seeds and had coriander and planted some for cilantro. Basil grows like crazy.
 
One of the telling, and perhaps sad, experiences we had recently were when we were contacted by a food bank we have volunteered at, and asked did we want free fruits and vegetables. We replied sure, but aren't we taking them from others who need them? They said very few people take them, and most of them will end up spoiling and being thrown out. Meanwhile, the baked goods and pastries fly off the shelves there. We went, and the produce was in great shape. DW is actually debating if she should offer a basic "cooking/preparing produce" course through the food bank.

In my view, generally speaking, anything you can cook and prepare at home can be healthier than buying the same thing. You can control the level of "bad" ingredients, if any. In terms of cooking cleaning, (a) we tend to cook in bulk, so we are actually cooking 2-3 times a week, and (b) one can multi-task and wash/clean/load the dishwasher while the cooking is occurring, so that there is little or no mess, other than what is left is what is used to serve. For health reasons, it is worth it :).
 
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Everyone talks about the benefits of cooking at home, and I agree. If you can cook and you also enjoy it, that's fantastic. But no one talks about the dirty dishes.
One of our issues is we can make better, cheaper most of the time. The prep and clean up does add to the work side. We also spend more to have grown and or preserved foods VS buying cans at the store. Growing a garden and canning the stuff was in the days of old... and 1st learned helping my great grandparents on the farm. But being we have 5 generation pictures of the last 3 generations...
14YO grandson and 82 YO GGM we might just add another generation.
 
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