"Ideal" body weight.

[Koolau]

I was wondering the same thing! To maintain an appropriate TSH level.

I guess it just means that the body can still produce thyroid antibodies even if you don’t have a thyroid. My doctor thinks that it’s usually related to gut health and some not completely digested foods mimicking certain proteins which trigger the antibodies.

My concern (and doc won't comment) that mine could be reaction to metastatic cancer in my lungs. So far no more growth there - 2 years post radiation treatment. But SOMETHING thinks I still have a thyroid. BUT my TSH is fine!

 

[audreyh1]

My concern (and doc won't comment) that mine could be reaction to metastatic cancer in my lungs. So far no more growth there - 2 years post radiation treatment. But SOMETHING thinks I still have a thyroid. BUT my TSH is fine!

I’m sure the supplement is properly replacing your thyroid. But Hasimotos is just the presence of a couple of thyroid antibodies in my understanding. In your case since there is no thyroid for the antibodies to attack it wouldn’t really matter. However, what triggers these antibodies may be dietary/gut health related, not any thyroid. Difficult to know as medicine has little understanding of autoimmune disease causes, just treatment of symptoms in some cases.

 

[Cujet]

I don't think anyone can argue that the ultra-processed foods we get in this country don't have a deleterious effect on our metabolisms. Many of us experience the same thing when we travel to Europe or other continents.

The thing is, I do the Carnivore Diet now. So nothing is processed. Grill the steaks and chicken on the Weber. Something is in the meats too. In Africa, eating the very same portion of meats I will shed pounds. Happens relatively quickly too.

 

[Cujet]

Don't you use hormone replacement? I would think that would help. I no longer have a thyroid, but my hormone levels are regulated with levothyroxine. (Oh, and I still have Hashimoto's - which the doctors don't quite understand.)

I am currently on T3 only. I don't convert T4 to T3 properly (the active hormone) . Despite my various health complaints, the T3 only protocol solved one significant problem. An unreal amount of fatigue that never relented, coupled with constant low blood sugar. Now I have to take T3 5-6x per day, but I can manage by signs and symptoms and recover pretty fast from a low.

Like you may be experiencing, my TPO and TG antibodies do not reduce at all when I am euthyroid (proper levels). In my case, neither do my RNP antibodies.

 

[Koolau]

I’m sure the supplement is properly replacing your thyroid. But Hasimotos is just the presence of a couple of thyroid antibodies in my understanding. In your case since there is no thyroid for the antibodies to attack it wouldn’t really matter. However, what triggers these antibodies may be dietary/gut health related, not any thyroid. Difficult to know as medicine has little understanding of autoimmune disease causes, just treatment of symptoms in some cases.

Thanks. Hope you're right! I get my chest CT in a month or so. That may tell the story - or not. Stable for almost 3 years.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The thing is, I do the Carnivore Diet now. So nothing is processed. Grill the steaks and chicken on the Weber. Something is in the meats too. In Africa, eating the very same portion of meats I will shed pounds. Happens relatively quickly too.

If you can find someone that raises their own cows and get your beef from them it will help.

A co-worker of my wife has parents that raise a few cows every year, nothing extra being fed to them. Last year we got a 1/4 of a cow and now I would not buy beef from the store for any reason. The taste alone is so much better. That 1/4 of a cow lasted my wife and I a full year and we are getting another one next month with some still left from last year

 

[KarenF]

I could use to lose 20 pounds but haven't been able to do so. Did it once years ago on Herbalife but gained it back once I got back to eating real food.
Question: can you control your appetite and weight loss by having your doctor adjust the medications? Or will you get off it completely once you achieve your ideal weight?
I would not to do that if it will just lead to weight gain again. And wouldn't want to continue the medicine long term, years.
Not criticizing but interested in this if I could lose those 20 pounds then get back to a regular diet after.

I am maintaining a 45 pound weight loss and you can’t eat the way you did before or you will gain it back. Your regular diet is how you ate to lose weight, with very occasional treats, forever. I am ok with that, because I don’t want to gain it back.

 

[Ronstar]

I ran 9 miles this morning and gained 0.4 pounds. I’ve come to the conclusion that one’s ideal weight is the weight that they feel best.

 

[Koolau]

I ran 9 miles this morning and gained 0.4 pounds. I’ve come to the conclusion that one’s ideal weight is the weight that they feel best.

Agreed that where you feel best is likely a good weight.

Keep in mind that 0.4 lb is a rounding error, water, scale variability, etc. 9 miles is less than 1000 calories which (in terms of equivalent fat) is less than 1/3 pound.

I'm only suggesting that you can't relate an hour or two of exercise to current weight loss. IOW don't get discouraged.

 

[audreyh1]

Yeah, a long run, drink a lot of water, easy to gain weight.

 

[Koolau]

Yeah, a long run, drink a lot of water, easy to gain weight.

I recall all the wrestlers in HS had the mantra "Suck Lifesavers and spit" before a match to make weight. Actual weight (fat) loss is pretty much determined by calorie deficit to the tune of about 3500 calorie deficit per actual pound of fat loss. In a day, weight that is retained or gained or lost water SWAMPS any realistic fat loss. Ten pounds scale difference from the time after first void to that last chugged beer with pretzels at 10PM is not unusual.

 

[Out of Steam]

I am maintaining a 45 pound weight loss and you can’t eat the way you did before or you will gain it back. Your regular diet is how you ate to lose weight, with very occasional treats, forever. I am ok with that, because I don’t want to gain it back.

I lost 70 pounds in 2014-15, and have maintained most of it. But my weight has crept up a stubborn 10-15 pounds with retirement and the pandemic. I have kept up the habit of food tracking and see that my food intake has increased by 200 to 300 calories a day. Even more regular exercise and strength training aren't enough to make up for the extra food.

My current goal is to lose that added weight, plus 10 more pounds. The first step is dropping the weight I've regained, which I hope to have off by mid-July.

 

[Out of Steam]

Ten pounds scale difference from the time after first void to that last chugged beer with pretzels at 10PM is not unusual.

Presumably because of salt content, my weight doesn't equillibrate for at least two days after eating a restaurant meal.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I am maintaining a 45 pound weight loss and you can’t eat the way you did before or you will gain it back. Your regular diet is how you ate to lose weight, with very occasional treats, forever. I am ok with that, because I don’t want to gain it back.

This is the key, eating how you lost the weight.

It is sort of funny but while I was losing the weight I only checked my weight when we did our official weigh in, but now that I am trying to maintain I am checking it almost daily as I am scared of it creeping back up slolwy like it did the first time. It took me 10 years to add that 50 and about a year to lose it....no way I want it to creep back up on me