I'm Approaching a Dishwasher Pod Crisis

I use the Cascade liquid (gel). It could be just me, but I don't like the idea of the coating melting away in the dishwasher. I also like the measurement ability of a non-pod solution. I put in about half full in the dispenser and that seems to work well.
 
I started using pods in 2016. Never had any debris left behind from the outer shell of the pod. If you're getting that, maybe switch brands? Or use liquid or powder. That's cheaper and better for the environment anyway. I'd probably do that if I had to run the dishwasher more than just once every few days.
 
THIS is my biggest whine about COSTCO. They'll start carrying something and I'll get used to buying it there. Then, suddenly, they don't carry it any more.

I've been told that it's 1) Supplier can't meet our demand, so we won't carry it. 2) Supplier won't meet our price point, so we quit carrying it.

How about letting COSTCO customers decide if they want to buy it at whatever price COSTCO has to charge to put it on their shelves?
This is conspiracy theory territory but I believe they stop stocking certain things in order to induce me to overbuy when I see something I really like. They have this seasonal 4-bean salad in jars but it seems to be seasonal as they come back year after year. These are not exactly healthy because of the sugar content but I love to eat it as a snack. Last time they were in stock I bought 8 jars and my wife asked me why. I told her it was because once they are gone and get the asterisk on the price banner they will not have anymore. (you'all know about the asterisk on the price banner, I hope)
 
This is conspiracy theory territory but I believe they stop stocking certain things in order to induce me to overbuy when I see something I really like...
A long, long time ago, I worked for a megacorp that did business with Price Club (predecessor of Costco), and this was definitely part of their model. I remember being in a meeting once where someone was joking with Sol Price about how they couldn't find their favorite product any more and couldn't he as CEO do something about it. His serious response was that this was actually a business strategy. If members thought something might not be there next time they came, then they'd buy it now instead of waiting and possibly changing their minds. Even if they definitely wanted it, he'd rather make a sale now than later. Letting a few items go out of stock or having them available seasonally helped create that sense of urgency.

The other thing he liked to do was rearrange things so you couldn't just home in on the one item you were looking for and ignore everything around it. He figured if you had to scan the entire aisle looking for Cheerios, you might notice the Chex and decide to get both. I don't think that strategy carried over once they merged with Costco though, or at least I don't notice it in my local warehouses.
 
About a year ago we ran out of the BJ's store brand pods, which we used every other wash. Bought Finish brand, and they seem ok. We always keep a container of Cascade powder under the sink, and I use that at half-strength.

Latest dishwasher "episode" was at daughter's home. She was showing us how the pods were not always releasing correctly, and at end of wash you could see a pile of soap in the diswasher. a) When did you last clean the filter (Lol, never), and b) Let's have a look!

After using boiling water on the release door area to clean it, I ran a test load, and the detergent door did pop open. But as I brought down the large dishwasher door, I saw that the detergent door did not have enough free room to completely pop open, as it aligned with the large top rack. How stupid is that design? I was able to move the top rack up a notch, and that allowed more free movement of the detergent door as it swung up.

Anyways, about a week later the dishwasher developed a board malfunction, wouldn't start up, even after power recycling and other tricks.

So I bought her a new dishwasher, and we had fun installing that two weeks ago.
 
I liked pods until I read how much pollution they add via micro plastics...
Same here. I was running low on the Cascade pods we used to use and wanted to see if there was a decent one without the microplastic coating. I like the convenience of the "pod-type" detergents. I ordered a pack from a company called Blueland. I ran a few loads with the Blueland ones and then a couple with the remaining Cascade pods I had. Dishes were equally clean, so I am happy to switch. I was worried about them crumbling or clumping together without the plastic coating, but so far that doesn't seem to be an issue -- I do store them in an old Cascade container (plastic) -- they come in a kind of flimsy papery packet.

ETA: our dishwasher is a Bosch
 
I have the occasional issue with Costco’s Kirkland pods with an LG dishwasher. Sometimes the pods don’t dissolve completely. I have to double-check before unloading, otherwise I run the dishwasher again.

It’s annoying enough that I’ll try new pods once these are used up.
Have you checked to see if anything is in the way of the soap door? I found this as a problem when we were traveling and DW complained about the soap not working.
 
Classify this one as "things shouldn't go in the dishwasher."

What are those irregular white plastic blobs in the bottom of the dishwasher? Yeah, that looks crazy. What part of the dishwasher did they fall from?

Those are the remaining pieces of plastic forks that cannot possibly remain where you placed them during all of the agitation in a dishwashing cycle. SO they dislodge and fall to the bottom, where they are melted by the heating element.

Bonus answer: This also explains the odd smell on dishwashing evenings. LOL!
 
We have a water softener.
We use the cheapest finish tablets from Costco, but I break off a corner (1/4 to 1/3 of the pod) and place it in the dishwasher as a pre-wash soap and to reduce the soap in the main cycle.
 
Have you checked to see if anything is in the way of the soap door? I found this as a problem when we were traveling and DW complained about the soap not working.
This might be the problem. It could also be something occasionally blocking the water spray on the top shelf. Not sure why this is a new problem though. I’ve had the same dishwasher for 4 years and this problem started happening over the last few months. I’ll eventually figure it out, but it is annoying, especially if I don’t notice until after I’ve unloaded the dishes.
 
We just use the Great Value powder sold at Walmart. It's the cheapest and it works just fine. I also use the liquid rinse aid from Walmart. Again, much cheaper than the Finish brand and works fine.

Our Miele dishwasher has no heating element, which allows us to safely put plastics in it. When the beep sounds to let me know the wash is done, I just open the door and the hot dishes air dry themselves. I also like it that way because it does not waste electricity.
 
When the beep sounds to let me know the wash is done, I just open the door and the hot dishes air dry themselves. I also like it that way because it does not waste electricity.
We recently had to replace our Samsung and I got a Bosch dishwasher. It has what I consider a really nice feature. When the dying is about done, it automatically opens the door to let the dishes finish drying in the air. Since the thing is so incredibly quiet I might not know it had finished (although there is a little light that goes out when it does).
 
We just use the Great Value powder sold at Walmart. It's the cheapest and it works just fine.
I use gel but I'm tempted to switch to powder for our current non-softened water situation. My understanding is gel doesn't have some useful chemicals that powder does because they become ineffective if mixed (long) beforehand.
 
This is conspiracy theory territory but I believe they stop stocking certain things in order to induce me to overbuy when I see something I really like. They have this seasonal 4-bean salad in jars but it seems to be seasonal as they come back year after year. These are not exactly healthy because of the sugar content but I love to eat it as a snack. Last time they were in stock I bought 8 jars and my wife asked me why. I told her it was because once they are gone and get the asterisk on the price banner they will not have anymore. (you'all know about the asterisk on the price banner, I hope)
Heh, heh, it's been years ago, now, but for me: It was Grape Nuts cereal. Cereal in the Islands costs almost as much as meat per pound at any regular grocery store. Even Walmart cereal is expensive. But for a month, Costco had HUGE boxes of Grape nuts. I've never seen before (or since) that size of box of Grape Nuts. "POUNDS" of the stuff in a huge box at (IIRC) $6.00 +/-. I thought to myself "Self. This will NOT last." So I stocked up. I always put stored cereal in the freezer for at least 3 weeks (in Saran wrap) to kill the weevils. Sure enough, I was right, once the dozen pallets of Grape Nuts were gone - they were G - A - W - N gone! (GAWN is Country and Western for "gone" in case you don't live close to Kentucky.) YMMV
 
I used the Costco ones. I do have 48 hour old dishes, worked beautifully, dishes come clean just fine, BUT. My dishwasher opens to circulate air and dry at the end, releases a large plume of steam, and I think that lemon scent is horrible.

Could be just me, I had Covid several years ago and my sense of smell is not quite normal.

I also really like seventh generation dishwasher pods. They are scent free. Clean very well. But I’m a really good scraper.

I am old enough to remember tablet versions of clothes washing powder, and dishwasher tablets. There’s a company called Blueland that is selling dishwasher tablets. Poly vinyl alcohol free.

Here’s the thing — right now the big fight about pods of all sorts is they are wrapped in poly vinyl alcohol which “dissolves”in water. The attitude appears that it really doesn’t, unless your wastewater facility has the means to make it do that. The other side is saying yes it does, it’s not causing microplastics in our waterways and drinking water.

Pods are the right size and it’s easy to use and you don’t have to measure you just throw a pod in.

It’s probably in a lot of stuff, I know it’s in medications. Detergent sheets? Almost all of them have poly vinyl alcohol.

So I am actually in a little ethical quandary over poly vinyl alcohol.

But I was watching someone do laundry online, and she poured detergent in a cup and threw the cup into the washer and I was just like I can’t go back, I can’t go back to that I’m too old, my hands are too messed up to mess with jugs… I want my pods. However if I could find tablets…
 
The Technology guy on youtube had a couple of videos where he tested all kinds of dishwasher detergent.
Upshot was: They are all basically the same thing. Power works as well as pods and cost 1/10th as much.
 
I probably run the dishwasher 2-3 times a week. Pods come in containers of like 80-120, so maybe one container per year. Powder is messy and would absorb moisture over that same year, getting all clumpy. I'm a bit of a cheapskate, but pods are a no-brainer, even if they cost a few pennies a month more.

I've never had any pod residue in my dishwasher. Maybe I'm just lucky. The water here is pretty good. I've never done the self-cleaning cycle either. I do leave the door open a little, hoping to avoid odors. And I violate everyone's recommendations by rinsing everything before putting it in there. Works for me.
 
I probably run the dishwasher 2-3 times a week. Pods come in containers of like 80-120, so maybe one container per year. Powder is messy and would absorb moisture over that same year, getting all clumpy. I'm a bit of a cheapskate, but pods are a no-brainer, even if they cost a few pennies a month more.

I've never had any pod residue in my dishwasher. Maybe I'm just lucky. The water here is pretty good. I've never done the self-cleaning cycle either. I do leave the door open a little, hoping to avoid odors. And I violate everyone's recommendations by rinsing everything before putting it in there. Works for me.
Who buys a year's worth of powder at once? I have one box in use and one backup box. When the duty box is used up, I go buy another as a backup. The longest one box ever sits is probably two months. And I just don't see the mess you mention. I take the box out from under the sink, pull out the little pour spout, pour some powder into the little receptacle on the inside of the dishwasher door, close the pour spout and stow the box back under the sink. I haven't ever dropped a speck of powder anywhere but in the receptacle.

Also, if you use pods, it is likely you're not putting any soap in the prewash part of the cycle and your dishes won't get as clean. Watch the linked video posted earlier; it's really interesting..

I agree with you about the pre-rinsing. It may not be necessary, but I don't believe it hurts, so I do it.
 
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edit: I see I cross posted with some of Gumby's comments...
.... but pods are a no-brainer,
No they are not!

Obligatory controversial Technology Connections video link! :D

He has done three (?) videos on dishwashers and why pods don't work. We stopped using them after watching his latest video on it.
I watched that earlier, IIRC, the main issue with pods is that they don't do the 'pre-wash' thing, which he found to be important.

And for me, a "one size fits all" is not a good approach. It makes a big difference if you are on a water softener (makes the water very, very soft), or medium soft, or hard water. So easy to fill the cup with a little for soft, a little more for medium, and full for hard.

So I guess they compensate with an extra strong detergent or extra detergent per pod? Well, that's not good for your glassware, it can get etched from excess detergent.

I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but saying something is a "no brainer" comes across as saying someone with a different view point is stupid. In this case, I think it's more accurate to say that pod users aren't fully utilizing their brains and evaluating the evidence.
 
When we bought our Bosch DW 8 years ago, the salesman and the installer told us never to use the pods. The outer shell doesn't always breakdown and will clog the inlet to the pump. We have heeded their advice.

That’s what my apartment maintenance guy told me too. I’ve switched to a gel.

We have been using the dishwasher pods for at least a decade already and have never had an issue.
@RetiredHappy - one anecdote of not having problems doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.
 
edit: I see I cross posted with some of Gumby's comments...

No they are not!


I watched that earlier, IIRC, the main issue with pods is that they don't do the 'pre-wash' thing, which he found to be important.

And for me, a "one size fits all" is not a good approach. It makes a big difference if you are on a water softener (makes the water very, very soft), or medium soft, or hard water. So easy to fill the cup with a little for soft, a little more for medium, and full for hard.

So I guess they compensate with an extra strong detergent or extra detergent per pod? Well, that's not good for your glassware, it can get etched from excess detergent.

I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but saying something is a "no brainer" comes across as saying someone with a different view point is stupid. In this case, I think it's more accurate to say that pod users aren't fully utilizing their brains and evaluating the evidence.
And I think we would be better off if we all avoided talking about who is or is not using their brain. Let's just assume that everyone is posting in good faith and respond accordingly.
 
I went back to powder after seeing glasses with built up residue and etching. Turned out the issue was using too much detergent with my soft water. Can’t cut back the dosage of a pod. Now the problem is just finding powder in the store.
I just asked my wife, she said she goes to Menards (Mid-west based chain) for powder, but switched back to the gel type since it is easier to find, and allows for the same dose adjustment and pre-wash fill. She also said she was getting a white powder build up on the dishwasher with powder, but not with gel. But I see Meijer also carries powder, Cascade and their store brand.
 
Our county library system has a free online subscription to Consumer Reports. Another benefit I learned about when I retired 😀
Consumer Reports is THE very last magazine we actually subscribe to. Very much worth it as I don't often go to the library. Of course, FREE is better. :cool:
 
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