Is anyone else a bit of a Luddite when it comes to modern tech (both hardware and social media etc)

It was a merry shuffle when we checked into a hotel in Belize using WhatsApp (even though the guide communicated with us on WhatsApp so they were set up)-there was no other way to check in. Two older guys in my group in Copenhagen needed to borrow phones because they didn't have one and needed to download an app to use public transportation in Copenhagen. More and more, you're in deep trouble if you don't have a smartphone and some faciity with using it.
To us, this really is a form of discrimination. Like our semi-annual trips to Target™ that we used to do. Now, they won't give you the sale price on some items if you do not own a smart-phone.
So we pretty much stopped going there.
 
To us, this really is a form of discrimination. Like our semi-annual trips to Target™ that we used to do. Now, they won't give you the sale price on some items if you do not own a smart-phone.
So we pretty much stopped going there.
No question that you are an outlier. Nothing wrong with that, just an observation.
From the Pew Research Center:
The vast majority of Americans – 97% – now own a cellphone of some kind. Nine-in-ten own a smartphone
 
I don't think anyone on a web forum can be considered a Luddite in any way.

Only the Amish might be considered Luddites, though supposedly the younger Amish will secretly have phones.

Luddite wouldn't communicate through posting on a forum. Maybe at most they use a phone to call someone. Would they even text?
 
No Facebook or any of the other social media platforms. Will only buy phones which are a few models removed from the latest one. No Fitbit or any other watch devices.
 
I was always at the forefront of technology prior to reaching 65, even through my early retirement years, but my mindset seem to change after 65. Always had the latest gadgets and computer toys. I was in that business, so it was easy to keep up. . . . .
I haven't quite reached 65 yet, but my mindset seems to have shifted some time during my 50s. I was in the business of understanding technology--though I was no longer involved in designing it--and I was exploring a move to a new employer. In a phone interview, the interviewer asked me, "Would you describe yourself as the kind of person who always has to have the latest gadget, the latest technology?" I felt like a deer in the headlights, because I had never given that any thought. Technology was in my DNA!, I said to myself. But at that moment I realized that although I appreciated technology and innovations, I no longer really cared about what it would do for me personally, and I felt content with my older phone, computer, and whatever. I never got around to buying an iPod, though I admired those of friends and imagined my younger self would have jumped on that. At that moment in the interview I not only knew I was not going to get the job but that I had better hunker down for the rest of my career and just ride it out, because this change in mindset was unlikely to reverse itself.
 
I like refurb tech because new just isn't worth it most of the time. I always keep OSes up to date and do regular hardware upgrades if I see a sale on something. Any big name Social Media I don't do at all. Phones slightly behind cutting edge is good enough for me. I picked up some "smart plugs" for $5, now I can turn on my lights with my phone, whoo hoo!
 
I don't have an i-anything.

I spend very little time on Facebook, mostly to see if anyone posted anything interesting like pics etc. I almost never post. I don't have accounts for any other social media unless you count LinkedIn for career purposes, which I will totally ignore when I retire (and mostly do now). I do browse the net at night sometimes (like this site, a few others like news or sports).

I am not subscribed to any streaming service.
This is less about Ludditism (sp?) or inability to embrace technology, than an admirably healthy refusal to be monitored, exploited, surveilled and sold-to. Most of the "tech" suffusing our modern lives is a marketing ploy, designed to separate us from our money... especially in the case of subscriptions. Back in the day, enterprising kids would pirate software, be it word processing or CAD or whatnot... never paying a penny, never subscribing to anything, never "upgrading". It worked so long as Windows-NT could still work. Going from 32 bit to 64 bit changed things (old software no longer worked). Then circa 2010, we had the proliferation of subscription models.

Facebook etc. are just trite entertainment... there isn't even a way to write detailed, nuanced essays. This is one reason that I decry the comparative decline of forums over the past 20 years, and the rise of Facebook or its ilk. There is no "tech" in either case... no if-then statements to write, no subroutines to call, no source-code to compile, no variables to declare.

So you really ought to congratulate yourself for healthy skepticism and reluctance to be manipulated. It's more a matter of self-protection and preservation of dignity, than some obdurate refusal to get with the times!
 
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So you really ought to congratulate yourself for healthy skepticism and reluctance to be manipulated. It's more a matter of self-protection and preservation of dignity, than some obdurate refusal to get with the times!
I appreciate the compliment, but honestly it's nothing more than me not having an interest and/or not thinking it makes any sense to use this or that or at least not become obsessed with it. For ex. I had Netflix in the past and liked it, but over time IMO they made it worse and worse and there was less and less on that I was interested in, so I quit. It's not because I'm opposed to the idea of streaming services. In fact, I loved the commercial-free aspect. Likewise for Pandora. Tried the free version for awhile, liked it, tried the paid version, gradually realized it wasn't worth it, and quit.
 
I spent 15 years in IT, where I often had software letting me access the whole company system remotely, so lots of tech equipment. But my first cellphone was a flip phone, which I had them turn off internet and text, because it ran my bill up so much. You paid for every pixel/byte and if someone sent you a busy, colorful photo it was expensive. I always said I had a computer for email, a camera for pictures and if you wanted an immediate response, call me, don't text. But when I went to work for Sprint my boss wanted to reach me any time, so insisted I get a smart phone. Before long I had two email accounts on it, texting with everyone and couldn't attach pics taken with my camera, so started using the phone camera.

Now I'm retired, living mostly on social security and have had to ask what do I really need to pay for. Not much, I've found. I have a $269 Motorola phone and use Consumer Cellular (about $26, including insurance). I got tired of the hassles and ever increasing expense of cable, so just have an antenna, which gives me more channels than I watch. I do subscribe to one streaming service for those nights when everything is reruns or reality tv. Currently, it's Britbox, but has been Disney or Acorn in the past. I don't have internet service, but check out a hotspot from the library every week, which will give wifi to my phone and two laptops. It's amazing how much I don't need to pay for and still stay in touch with everyone, sometimes more than I want, as well as having plenty of entertainment.
 
I’m very mercurial. I can’t live without my phone.
 
I’m very mercurial. I can’t live without my phone.
I'll admit, I had to look it up.

Here's what Dictionary.com told me:

"mercurial​

adjective

mer·cu·ri·al (ˌ)mər-ˈkyu̇r-ē-əl

Synonyms of mercurial
1: of, relating to, or born under the planet Mercury


2: having qualities of eloquence, ingenuity, or thievishness attributed to the god Mercury or to the influence of the planet Mercury


3: characterized by rapid and unpredictable changeableness of mood
a mercurial temper

4: of, relating to, containing, or caused by mercury

mercurially
(ˌ)mər-ˈkyu̇r-ē-ə-lē
adverb
mercurialness noun"

I guess I'm so much of a luddite I do not even know how identifying as mercurial relates to living without a phone. I'm honestly not trying to be insulting, I just really do not understand. :confused: I guess I'm like the O.P. when it comes to mobile phones.
 
Moderate Luddite here. I use my phone for calls and texts only. I do use a computer but rarely use it for ordering or banking or other commerce. I still make phone calls to institutions and I still mail letters.
 
For those who actively avoid getting a smart phone...why?

"I don't like being tethered" - you can still turn it off and don't have to have it with you, or just not answer, just like any phone.

"I don't like having to use apps" - me neither, so I don't use any other than a handful (maps, uber on occasion, airlines when travelling to have my boarding pass easily).

"expense" - nah, you can get a phone for almost nothing and google fi, or consumer cellular or many others for well under $50 per month
 
I use my cell phone to generate a code to access my work computer. Other than that, it is a paperweight.
 
For those who actively avoid getting a smart phone...why?

"I don't like being tethered" - you can still turn it off and don't have to have it with you, or just not answer, just like any phone.

"I don't like having to use apps" - me neither, so I don't use any other than a handful (maps, uber on occasion, airlines when travelling to have my boarding pass easily).

"expense" - nah, you can get a phone for almost nothing and google fi, or consumer cellular or many others for well under $50 per month
We do have one flip-phone for emergencies or if we have to call some place when we travel. It cost $10 to buy. This is our 2nd flip-phone. Our old one was a 3G model and we were forced to buy a new one when 3G was phased out. With Trac-Fone it came out to around $5 a month the last time we bought minutes for it. (I think we ended up buying a 3-month plan at a discount and then added another 365 days to it so we got 15 months for around $75) Why pay more for something larger with features we wouldn't use? We only turn the phone on when we need to make a call and then turn it back off when we're done.

When we schedule appointments, they always want a mobile number so they can send text message reminders but the places seem okay when we tell them that we don't text. We do tell them that they can call our land-line and leave a message on the answering machine if we're not home.

For a phone that sits on a shelf 340 - 350 days a year, why pay more than we need to?

But... I will admit that maybe next year, after we retire, our service days will be running out around the time we plan on retiring, so we might consider down-grading to a smart-phone if we can find a reasonably priced small enough model and plan considering all the discrimination towards people without them.
 
I can and do go whole days without looking at my phone, which I was upset at having to spend a whopping $100 on (but now realize was a good deal). I have some apps that came with and never use. I added exactly one (Mapquest for GPS purposes). I occasionally use the phone to call someone (remember that?), occasionally a text, that's it. I never look at it when in a social situation like out with friends and frankly find it rude when others do.

My laptop is rather modest, maybe even low end by today's standards, and I don't care because it's enough.

I don't have an i-anything.

I spend very little time on Facebook, mostly to see if anyone posted anything interesting like pics etc. I almost never post. I don't have accounts for any other social media unless you count LinkedIn for career purposes, which I will totally ignore when I retire (and mostly do now). I do browse the net at night sometimes (like this site, a few others like news or sports).

I am not subscribed to any streaming service.

And my career has been in I.T. :)

Anyone else? Humbug I say. To each their own but I never got the obsessions, esp with checking one's cell phone 100 times a day.
I am burning out on social media. Since whatever happened with artificial intelligence, the number of content creators who are having their stuff stolen and repurposed in other places has skyrocketed. Facebook does nothing about any of this. My perception — which may or may not be wrong, is that they are saving money by letting AI make these decisions so reporting them does nothing.

However, in order to not carry a purse because I hate to, I have switched to doing as much as possible on my phone. I use Apple Pay which is far safer than almost everything out there, I rarely pay cash for anything. So I don’t need to carry much.

When I’m out and about, I carry my phone which has a Smartish wallet case that carries my drivers license and one credit card just in case, I have updated all of my doctors with my new Medicare insurance stuff, so there’s no need to carry on me, there’s an album of it on the Photos section.

I use Google Calendar to keep track of appointments when I make them. I transfer them to a paper and pen planner when I get home. I look at that planner every single day.

I also have a laptop. I do genealogy, and there are apps for that, but there is way too much stored information to keep it on a phone you have to have a laptop. There’s a basic Ancestry thing, but you can’t make trees for people, you can’t make ahnentafuls.

I’m also a beta reader for a friend of mine and she sends me manuscripts so I have to have Word so I can read them comment on them edit them and send them back.

I do think that there are a lot of people who have issues with overuse. They can’t stop playing the games, they get really itchy if they don’t have the iPads with them, and I’m not talking about kids. I worry about the children but I’m letting the parents take care of the kids. They know more than I do about this I hope. But they’re really is a problem with somebody that comes home from work and games and ignores the family — that’s an issue. And I’ve seen it.

These things aren’t inherently bad, but humans have addictive behaviors. We’ve always had addictive behaviors — this is nothing new, it’s just now we have these entertainment devices in our hands at all times and it’s easy to fall into that. There is nothing different than spending 12 hours a day sitting on the sofa on social media and cruising the Internet. It’s no different than sitting on the sofa and watching television for 12 hours a day. Not healthy.
 
I do think that there are a lot of people who have issues with overuse. They can’t stop playing the games, they get really itchy if they don’t have the iPads with them, and I’m not talking about kids. I worry about the children but I’m letting the parents take care of the kids. They know more than I do about this I hope. But they’re really is a problem with somebody that comes home from work and games and ignores the family — that’s an issue. And I’ve seen it.

These things aren’t inherently bad, but humans have addictive behaviors. We’ve always had addictive behaviors — this is nothing new, it’s just now we have these entertainment devices in our hands at all times and it’s easy to fall into that. There is nothing different than spending 12 hours a day sitting on the sofa on social media and cruising the Internet. It’s no different than sitting on the sofa and watching television for 12 hours a day. Not healthy.
Yeah, I think it's the addictive behavior that I eschew. I see tables of people huddled over their phones, not paying attention to each other. I've intentionally NOT gotten into that mode with my phone. Luddite? Guilty as charged. Addicted? Well, not to my phone, anyway. :cool:
 
This is less about Ludditism (sp?) or inability to embrace technology, than an admirably healthy refusal to be monitored, exploited, surveilled and sold-to. Most of the "tech" suffusing our modern lives is a marketing ploy, designed to separate us from our money... especially in the case of subscriptions. Back in the day, enterprising kids would pirate software, be it word processing or CAD or whatnot... never paying a penny, never subscribing to anything, never "upgrading".

So you really ought to congratulate yourself for healthy skepticism and reluctance to be manipulated. It's more a matter of self-protection and preservation of dignity, than some obdurate refusal to get with the times!
When I think of "Back in the day", It reminds me that the children used to be the ones trying to sell people stuff and separate them from some of their money.

I remember being one of those enterprising kids and going door-to-door trying to sell newspaper subscriptions when I was a paperboy, or walking through neighborhoods for hours after school selling magazine subscriptions, candy bars, or other foods in snack tins in order to raise money for a class trip or some school project.
 
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