Is this true about loneliness in retirement.

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I'm not retire yet, so would like for those who are to weigh in on this.

 
The part about relationships with work "friends" is definitely true. I went through significant challenges and successes with a handful of people over 20+ years, and I have -0- contact with them after 10 years gone.

While they seem close are the time, they end up being revealed as transactional relationships that don't last.
 
I think he hits the nail on the head. Most of the people I spent time with pre-retirement were amicable and pleasant, but we were bound by our shared endeavor rather than anything else. I am involved in my church and spend a lot of time with my fellow congregants, but it certainly takes more effort to connect. I think it helps that I have always been an introvert.
 
Certainly a lot of truth in the article. But I don't think I was ever particularly surprised about the "decay." I'd seen that in w*rk relationships throughout my w*rk life. As my assignments changed, the w*rk group changed and old relationships sorta went by the wayside. So why not after the c@reer ends?

I still keep in contact with 2 people from my old life that otherwise ended 20 years ago when I retired.
 
The problem when you retire early is most of your friends did not. I think you naturally drift away because they are not available (working) and you want to do things because you have so much free time. Best to be married so you have a partner in crime.
 
It seems to have been true all through my life, not just since I retired. As the article says, relationships exist to serve a purpose. When the purpose no longer exists all the supporting players move on to another show.
 
I find this article to be true. I've only maintained close friendships with two friends over the years. One from high school and the other from when I was in the military. I only see them every couple of years or so. But whenever I see them it's like we never parted.
 
I had a few friends not from work and we maintained those relationships. Only a couple of people from work did we maintain contact for a few years. We moved out of town after a few years so that really changed things.

We didn’t expect any different. Work was not our social life.

Also - I retired to something. I had a ton of things that I wanted to do, study, explore, travel. So my focus was on that and not on what I’d left behind.
 
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Nice find, thanks for sharing. Certainly the article applied in my case. Work brought a whole ecosystem of contacts, structure and mental stimulation all of which disappeared when I tried retirement. I'm not interested in any hobby where I have to work with my hands and volunteering somewhere would make me unskilled labor while still relying on a work-like structure for interaction. Since I can still physically and mentally do the job I retired from and they were anxious to have me back, even if I select only the fun stuff to do, I went back to work on a part-time, work-from-home basis. That won't last forever, but is a good balance for me, for now.
 
There is a lot of truth in what he says. More women are better at this than men. We often rely on them to maintain our social networks. I had a lot of fairly close relationships at work that evaporated in retirement. Tw good friends reached out and kept small groups of us in touch. I learned from them to reciprocate and get in touch if time seemed to be going by without contact. That enabled us to stay in touch with occasional meetups for 21 years and continuing.

I am an active member and volunteer in a "Village" in my neighborhood. This is a non-profit organization focused on helping seniors age in place. It offers a lot of social opportunities to meet and interact with others. Again, the women members seem to take much better advantage of those opportunities. Recently a group of us men in the Village formed a "Lowbrow" book club to read mysteries, thrillers, and science fiction. That is turning out to be a good avenue to engage.
 
In my experience it is true, but I knew that while I was still working, so there was no surprise when I retired. I still keep in touch with a few former coworkers, even after 18 years of retirement, but my real friends were always outside of work.
 
Various elements of truth to all this. My work relationships were mostly transactional. I had many colleagues who I considered to be friends and vice vera but we didn't socialize other than at work and work functions (training, conferences, etc).

There are a few who I have met with for breakfast or lunch during our travels to catch up and enjoyed those meetings. Last fall, one of my favorite bosses died and I went to the funeral and saw many of my former colleagues and it was great to see them and catch up. I retired earlier then they did so it was great to catch up on how they are doing.
 
Same as high school isn't it? "Friends for life" and all that. Then.....life invades and you never see them again.

The problem with school, career, changing jobs, moving and finally retirement is that every 10 of 15 years or so you need to make new friends.

I was 34 years with the same company. Like many here have noted before, the people I thought were good, long term friends--I never heard from again. The ones who I thought couldn't care less about me still stay in touch.
 
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I'm still good friends with people from high school and college. Retirement has allowed us to re-connect, especially now that some of those folks are finally retiring at about 65. I'm not friends with anyone from my places of employment, except for a few former customers. Most of my new friends are connected through pickleball or the new neighborhood.
 
Spot on!!!
As far as loneliness goes that hasn't been an issue for me. I know a lot of people and just a phone call away from spending time with many of them doing activities if I desire to do so. Many new friendships after I ER because of the time I have now to do so many other thing in life. If I'm lonely it would be on me. I love solitude at this stage of my life just doing my thing and finding new adventures in life.
 
90% of 'friendships' are determined by propinquity. You see the same people day after day and the slightest similarities are all that are needed to keep the relationship going. Once you have to actually schedule a time and location to meet even a bit of inconvenience can kill it.
 
That article is written by a bot for a content farm bait website.
 
An important factor is family. First, we're expected to retreat into our nuclear family (marriage and children), so that friends - be they high school buddy, college chums or workmates - become secondary. Second, workmates who do marry and have kids, bond over that shared experience. They have a natural conversation piece (spouse, children, the local schools, burden of changing diapers, the travails of kids playing sports, the stresses of kids applying to colleges,...).

The consequences are clear. Because family come first, friends - a work or otherwise - become demoted to the B-team, once young-adults in the workplace form families. And once the kids arrive, the parents' thinking naturally shifts, so that to the extent that they have mental-space available for friendships, those friendships tend to revolve around parenting.

Example: Smith is the consummate frat-boy in college. Parties, locker-room towel-slapping etc. Smith graduates and joins a bunch of folks in the same cohort at Megacorp. For a couple of years, they all go drinking together, take ski trips together, play golf together. But then one after another they marry. Then they kids arrive. By 30, most of the fellows in Smith's circle at Megacorp are in the suburbs. They bought minivans. They talk about teething, cribs, first words and first steps. They're still cordial with Smith... that "propinquity" thing... but it's clear that their common-core has diminished.
 
It was the slow, creeping realization that the people I’d spent most of my waking hours with for the better part of my adult life had quietly vanished from it.

Obviously not true for everyone in every field, and perhaps true for fewer people as work-from-home (or the work-from-anywhere digital nomad lifestyle) gains traction. People also switch jobs more frequently, and the days of working for the same company for the better part of one's adult life are largely over.

Even before Covid, I worked fewer and fewer hours in an office and more from home, because the technology enabled it. My firm's larger clients didn't want us (wasting their time?) meeting with them in person anymore--they were fine dealing with us via email and online meetings. Post-covid, on the occasions I was in the office, it appeared to me that fewer people went out to lunch together or engaged in water cooler-type chitchat than they used to in the old days. It seemed to me that people wanted to just do their work and get out of there. For me, at least, this was quite different many decades ago when my circle of friends mostly worked at the same company.
 
What surprised me was the light speed at which "friends" at work disappeared.
To comment on this as well... I "retired" the first time - involuntarily, under a dark cloud - nearly a decade ago. Becoming as it were radioactive, rendering it harder to keep in touch with former workmates. A small number did. Oddly, a couple of fellows who weren't particularly close to me while working, became more serious friends after my departure. I moved across the country, but we retain semi-regular e-mail correspondence, exchanging long screeds about what's wrong with the world. The circumstances of my departure, so shocking at the time, became a surrogate glue, that brought us closer together.
 
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