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Most of the posters seem to believe only retail prices on affected goods will rise. I believe many retailers will see this as an option to increase prices on goods in general. 🤷‍♂️
Exactly...

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I have a small business. One of my suppliers is Canadian, and I just got their email that they will be increasing prices after next week for the extra 25%. If I use their (lovely, unique) products in my items, I'll have to pass that on, that's just math.
Sounds like to might be time to find some alternatives Aerides. At least until changes are made that will bring the offending countries in to compliance.

Flieger
 
Same "Stuff" Different Day ;)
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Just buy U.S. made products!
Does not really matter. US producers will raise prices as well, choosing to capture margin vs. market share. We are giving free money to US producers for the domestic market while taking it from US producers for foreign markets who will face countervailing duties from the targeted countries.
 
Audi, can you link a copy of what you read abouth the oil imported from Mexico?

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I've read a couple hundred articles since I saw that last week so no way to remember where I saw it.
 
Sounds like to might be time to find some alternatives Aerides. At least until changes are made that will bring the offending countries in to compliance.

Flieger
Except I know there is none. I attend international trade conferences every year, I know exactly what is out there in this small niche marketplace, across 100's of suppliers. I look at new products every year as well, this is artistry and design, and cannot be copied without IP issues (nor should it be). If I can't buy their items, I have to discontinue my products, and my revenue. I would instead buy fewer, sell fewer, hopefully, at a slightly higher price. Nobody wins.

Oh and this one does supply directly to US distributors and retailers, so that will all go up too.

This is one tiny anecdote in a sea of impacts. But I just wanted to share what is going to happen in a million different ways.
 
So they raised prices even before the tariff's went in to affect... This seems to be the norm.

Flieger
This wasn’t front running the tariffs. It was due to fewer avocados harvested in 2024. Well ahead of any tariff announcements.
 
Demand for avocados has been strong for years. I remember when I had friends who didn’t know what avocado was when they saw it in the dinner salad my mom served. Their reaction was “yuk” as they moved it to the side of the plate. Now they put it on their morning toast.

No doubt “tariffs” will be used as an excuse to raise prices by some merchants. Let the buyer beware is as true as ever.
 

It is focused on dealers not consumers, but from time to time there are some tips. About a year ago he mentioned that Mazda vehicles where not selling well. A friend managed to get a good deal on a new Mazda while their inventory was higher than normal. But, overall the focus is on how dealers can make more money.
 
I have no idea the final effect, but clearly, not everything you buy or pay for will be affected. I'd be surprised if it made even a 3% total effect but it would very much depend on your location and your mix of purchases. In many cases, you will also have a choice. You might decide that California avocados are okay instead of Mexican avocados and so forth.
3% is a lot when thrown on top of all the inflation we've already had and are still having. But I think it will be more than that. It's not just the products you buy which are basically fully produced in those countries, but even parts or source material for products assembled here for the the equipment used here for providing various goods. I heard a new truck may increase $10,000. A cell phone over $200. Someone here earlier mentioned that housing, healthcare, and insurance would be unaffected. But they rely on imported products. And insurance - as if all the disasters weren't bad enough, many building materials or source material is imported. Those insurance bills have doubled in recent years and are seeing upward pressure for multiple reasons now. And as others have said, many others will use it as an excuse to raise prices even if their personal cost to produce doesn't go up as much.
Most of us have learned how to adjust to large price increases. I don't think that a tariff will make us forget how we got here (to FIRE) but YMMV.
Adjust = As someone else said, they would be going without something else because what they need costs more. And for many low income Americans, it will mean going without something they need because they need something else more. They are the ones that will be feeling the worst of this tariff tax increase on Americans. And others will have to cut back on discretionary and saving.
 
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Maybe a thread should be started to out businesses that are gouging as the tariffs take effect.
The tariffs were implemented under a declared national emergency, the order is the first use of the 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act to apply tariffs. I think there are state laws addressing price gouging during a declared emergency. California prohibits price increases greater than 10% on essential goods during a declared state of emergency for example.
 
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Businesses don’t need a reason to raise prices. Businesses are always looking for opportunities to raise price and increase profits. The key question is what happens to demand when a price rises. I think we saw quite a lot of corporate pain because of too aggressive pricing in ‘22 and ‘23.
 
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Does not really matter. US producers will raise prices as well, choosing to capture margin vs. market share. We are giving free money to US producers for the domestic market while taking it from US producers for foreign markets who will face countervailing duties from the targeted countries.
Well "just raising prices" is not like post COVID. Now after those hikes there is significant resistance to higher prices. Consumers are not ok with this.

Also the view that this is not a long-term thing (and as if to prove this, Mexico tariffs already "paused".

Will be interesting to see.
 
Another aspect to the tariffs is how other nations view this in their own relationship with the USA. I would imagine they are considering under what terms they would be imposed on their imports to the USA and how to avoid that. I think this is a lesson the current administration is attempting to teach to the world, not just Canada, Mexico and China.
 
If I were a producer who didn't rely on imported goods, I would raise my price to just below the price charged by the tariff affected producer with whom I am competing.
 
If I were a producer who didn't rely on imported goods, I would raise my price to just below the price charged by the tariff affected producer with whom I am competing.
So are you okay with taking advantage of us like that?
 
So are you okay with taking advantage of us like that?
It's a market. If enough people won't pay my price to buy from me, then I'll have to reduce it in order to sell my goods. The incentive of all sellers is to charge the highest price the market will bear and the incentive for all buyers is pay as little as they can to get what they want. I'm a business, not a charity.
 
It's a market. If enough people won't pay my price to buy from me, then I'll have to reduce it in order to sell my goods. The incentive of all sellers is to charge the highest price the market will bear and the incentive for all buyers is pay as little as they can to get what they want. I'm a business, not a charity.
So if your business suffers during these trying times we should not care one bit since you are not a charity. Sounds good to me. And as a business you should not expect or accept charity from anyone who we're not allowed to mention here.
 
But...were you there during the time when they set the heat on? Warm toilet seats are amazing.
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Yes, all the toilet seats automatically heated up when you sat on them. I bet they lollygag in the bathroom because it's too comfy.
 
So if your business suffers during these trying times we should not care one bit since you are not a charity. Sounds good to me. And as a business you should not expect or accept charity from anyone who we're not allowed to mention here.
If we weren't stupidly engaging in tariff wars, no one would need assistance. Most economists have agreed about the theory of comparative advantage since the days of David Ricardo in the early 19th Century - that everyone in the world benefits when each country produces what it can best produce for the lowest price and then sells to other countries, and vice versa. Autarky - a completely self sufficient society that does not need to trade with other countries for anything - has never been achieved, and I suspect it never will. Tariffs raise prices and reduce output for everyone.
 
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