Looking for help for an Old Mans Bicycle

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Okay I know there is some very knowledgeable bikers on the site. I'm planning on get a different bike it will be used on paved roads 95% of the time. So, I want a bike that gives me the least resistance and is comfortable. Handle bar style, size and tire width (skinny fat) and design knowledge would be much help. I have a 26 inch now an 18 speed. I would like to stay with 26 inch just feel I have more control and I only need a 5 or 7 speed transmission.

Any help to choose my next bike would be appreciated.
 
Fit is most important. There are some online tools to determine bike fit, but a good shop can help determine your size.
Everything else is going to be determined by how you want ride. Upright bikes are less aero and put more weight on your butt, but not everyone wants to ride in a more hunched over position. For longer rides its actually more comfortable because it distributes weight more evenly.

There are online resources to help guide you. This being one.


I am pretty particular about my bikes, but if I were shopping for a casual rider, I would look at these guys.
 
If you can get to an REI store (I know there are a few in Montana), I've found their bicycle departments to be extremely helpful.
 
As with most things, the price range for a bike is huge, depending on what you are looking for. I used tio hae 2 bikes, a "skinny tire" road bike for my speed sessions and a hybrid for my casual rdies. I gave up the road bike a few years ago, but my now 13 years old hybrid is going strong: Cannondale Quick. A quick (no pun intended) Google search found new ones for as low as $500. There's always a big market for used bikes, that even paying for a bike shop to tune up a used one would likely save you considerable money. All of the name brands sell similar type bikes. I know that Specialized Sirrus and Trek FX are similar to the Quick. I think you'd be happy with any of these 3.
 
I recommend an e-bike. I got a Specialized pedal assist e-bike a few years ago and sold my Trek. I will never ride anything but an e-bike from now on.

Street - a pedal assist e-bike fits the bill for least resistance that you mentioned.
 
My most recent bike purchase is my first E-bike. A Velotric Tempo. I've had it 3 months and have put a little over 2K miles on it.

I have half a dozen other standard bikes already and I ride quite a bit, averaging 5000 miles a year for the last 10 years, mostly pavement. The reason I went with the new Tempo E-bike is it functions very well as a straight commuter pedal bike with the electronics turned off but electric help is available with a flick of a button. I'm really enjoying the ability to tailor the effort I put in and it's reopened up a lot of routes I'd lately avoided because of too many hills or a bit too much distance or having a headwind for the return portion. I get the exercise I want while going the routes I want. So far I'm sold on the idea of now having a little help available as I age. I no longer want to ride 30+ milers solely using my own umph.

For a standard bike targeting paved paths, I've put a lot of miles on my Priority Eight. It's a traditional commuter bike with a belt drive and eight speed internal gear hub for very low maintenance.

Whatever bike you buy, adding aftermarket seats, bars and pedals is a worthwhile investment to get the best fit and comfort out of a bike.
 
I recommend an e-bike. I got a Specialized pedal assist e-bike a few years ago and sold my Trek. I will never ride anything but an e-bike from now on.

I will second the e-bike recommendation. I loved riding traditional 10-speed bikes when I was a teenager, but got away from it as I grew older. We've ridden a few traditional bikes since then, but it was a lot more work even on level ground. Finding e-bikes has rekindled my love of bike riding. We don't own bikes right now, unfortunately, but love to rent e-bikes when we're on vacation. They allow us to get some exercise and see a lot more scenery than we would be able to from walking or hiking alone. Being able to effortless pedal up hills that would otherwise exhaust us is very nice. Not to mention the feel of the wind in my hair bald scalp. :)

I'm perfectly happy with Class 1 (pedal assist only) ebikes, though having a throttle to get going from a stop on a Class 2 is nice also. We have ridden many different brands and can't say anything really stands out for casual use. Ironically we rented some really expensive Trek ebikes when we started and did not like them. The handling was very unstable. In contrast, some of the cheapest Lectric folding bikes were quite nice to ride.

We generally stick to paved multi-use paths, except for renting standard bikes to ride the Route of the Hiawatha on gravel roads (highly recommended). Riding the road up to Maroon Bells in Aspen, CO was also a great ride.
 
I always liked the mid-sized 26 inch. A little more stable though not (by definition) a fast bike. Better for slightly uneven surfaces (rural paved roads). Never liked the skinny tires though they're more efficient (faster) bikes. The "old man" designation suggests stability over efficiency to me but YMMV.

Oh, and the mid-weight bikes seem a bit more robust and less prone to needing constant adjustments. I'm no expert - just an old man.

Good luck with your selection.
 
If your looking for a traditional pedal bike with a more upright riding position and easy on and off you might look at the Trek Verve model. We choose these cause they were simple 7 or 8 speeds so only one gear up front. Depending on the model they are around 900 to 1000. You might be able to find a discount at a local bike store on an older model or check for light used model.
 
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Getting to know the folks at a local bike shop would be my first recommendation. If it's a decent shop they'll steer you in the right direction.

REI is another good recommendation but they are fairly limited on model selection and sizing due to the bike footprint in their stores. In low-mid models they carry a lot of their house brand (Co-Op Cycles) and some Cannondale. They also carry some higher end stuff.

A couple of things I've learned in my own bicycle adventures recently:

1. I rode bikes with 26" wheels for decades. 5 years ago I bought my first mountain bike with 27.5" wheels. It was that or 29" and this one with 27.5's really stood out to me. Larger wheels are a game-changer on the trail as well as on paved paths and street riding. Just feels better, IMO. More stable, easier to roll over small bumps. I also have a 29'er now, and it's even more capable than the 27.5. I prefer WIDE tires but not fat for everyday use. My 27 is a 2.8" wide tire and it looks huge. It cushions the ride and feels super stable even if it's a little chunkier/heavier.

2. Modern everyday and mixed-terrain bikes generally have more "slack" geometry and wider handlebars. They feel amazing compared to older geometry. Definitely ride a bunch of different bikes!

3. Electric bikes aren't just for the lazy. Even if your goal is fitness, an E-bike will help you go farther, longer, and it's there when you need a boost, or, if you're still working on your fitness. You don't want to dread bicycle commuting or workouts because of a hill that always gives you trouble or feeling completely depleted by the end of the ride!

4. In the everyday and trail/mountain categories most drivetrains have moved to a single front sprocket with 7-9 speeds in the rear. IMO this is a much more efficient setup than an 18 or 21/24 speed setup of old, and it reduces weight.

5. Disc brakes are becoming fairly standard. Absolutely worth the spend!
 
E bikes are really nice and you can rent one in some places like we just did on our trip to Sarasota. It was an Aventon Level 3 & we rode ~50 miles. They will spoil you for sure.

My personal bike is a 10 yr old Fuji (basic road bike) & I ride 12-25 miles, pretty flat.

The Velotric caught my eye with the <40lb weight... Probably giving up a little power with a 350w motor... I would rather have a little more torque & thumb throttle option
 
Some considerations:
  • If you are thinking about an ebike, be aware that simple things like fixing a flat tire may well be more complicated on hub-drive e-bikes. And many bike shops will only service ebike brands that they sell. Also, expect that an ebike is going to weigh at least 15-30lbs more than a traditional bike. Not so much an issue while riding, but transporting a heavy ebike is a lot more difficult. Some of the class 2 e-bikes, with throttle assist and huge 3” or greater tires, weigh upwards of 60-70lbs. The very lightest e-bikes are still 40lbs or more.
  • I recommend that you don’t limit yourself to 26” wheeled bikes, especially if you will be on 95% paved surfaces. You will have a much easier time finding replacement tires for 700c (road bike standard) or 29” (mountain ) bikes. It’s probably more important to be comfortable with the style of frame you choose, making sure that you can easily mount or dismount. Having a low top tube or even a step through frame will be more important than wheel size.
  • Find a good bike shop with employees who listen to your needs. If they are only interested in selling you what they have rather than what you need, walk away. Be very specific in how you intend to use the bike and also what is most important to you. You’re not a cat 1 road racer or a downhill mountain bike shredder…don’t let them treat you like one, selling you something that’s inappropriate for your use case.
 
What's your honest thoughts on the Velotric? Says 60 mile range. I find e bikes in general are usually 75% of stated the way I ride...
So far I'm liking it. I usually take rides of 15 miles up to 30 miles occasionally. For the way I ride, range hasn't been an issue. I normally pedal with the electric assist off for the first 15+ miles unless there's a larger hill or headwind. I have no problem getting 2, 30 mile rides out of a charge with some to spare, but I'm doing most of the work. Honestly, for my usage, I would take less weight for less range as a trade off. The hub motor is surprisingly peppy and it will hold 25mph on flat ground using just throttle and can really take the edge off a steep hill. I live in Tucson and ride after dinner when the heat is up. The headlight on the Velotric is the best bike headlight I've tried, and the rear lights are very good for visibility. Tucson has an extensive paved bike trail system, so I stay out of traffic almost all the time.

What I like about e-biking is I feel confident to push myself a bit, knowing that when I've had enough I can get assist or even just throttle home. I get better exercise on an e-bike which is counterintuitive.

The Velotric is pretty nimble, but you'll feel the weight a bit if you're used to a light weight commuter pedal only bike.
 
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If you go e-bike, get the torque sensing not cadence sensing type, feels much more natural.
 
If you go e-bike, get the torque sensing not cadence sensing type, feels much more natural.
I'd agree with that generally, but there are nuances. Torque sensor provides a more natural feel under assist. Cadence sensor allows the rider to vary their effort input independent of the assist level, which is useful for getting exercise. It depends on what you want from the ride. My bike has both sensors and can switch on the fly. I use the cadence sensor at least half the time under assist.

But if you're buying a bike with only one or the other, then yeah, a torque sensor is the better compromise.
 
Wow, a lot of excellent advise which I knew I would get. Thank You all and I will be researching your suggestions.

If you asked one of my friends they say I'm as fit as a fiddle. Lol I consider myself in very good shape but have an old 18 speed. I have wore out a half dozen tires since ER and I just need something else.

Thank You all again my search is on.
 
If you asked one of my friends they say I'm as fit as a fiddle.

Sounds that way from some of your posts. (y)

Don't forget a good helmet. It does not take much of an impact to scramble your brain, and you don't want that.
 
Sounds that way from some of your posts. (y)

Don't forget a good helmet. It does not take much of an impact to scramble your brain, and you don't want that.
Yep, I don't but I need to get a hard hat. Lol
 
Personally I would be likely to get a dirt bike style helmet with a chin bar in case of a face plant.
I'm used to full face helmets for motorcycles. The half shell type just does not seem good enough to me, my face wants protection! But some people are OK with them.
 
You received lots of good advice and suggestions here depending on the direction you are going. I guess I would like some more information before providing a suggestion. What's wrong with your current bike? What would you like it to continue to do? What would you like it to stop doing? Think in terms of comfort (does the bike not fit right anymore), places to ride, riding with others, etc. Or. do you simply think it is time for a new bike which is not a bad thing. But, even if that is the answer, knowing a little more about your riding habits might be helpful.

DW and I still have our now 30+ year old bikes along with other specialty bikes for touring. (I treated myself to an upper end carbon bike to keep up with friends some years ago). The 30+ bikes, now our around town computers, have received new stems since reach is not as long as it used to be. Saddles have been changed and readjusted. Handlebars have been moved. We have tires that rarely go flat. Those changes have worked well. I mention all of this as something you could explore with a bike fitter and/or a bike shop with your current bike.
 
I like the Ride-1-Up e-bikes.

I have an older 700 series, but like the looks of the new Vorsa.


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Lots of good advice. I would add to the recommendation you visit a few local bike stores. In the past, REI has been great, but I feel that their selection isn’t as good recently.

And do a few test rides of different bikes to make sure they’re a good fit.
 
Personally I would be likely to get a dirt bike style helmet with a chin bar in case of a face plant.
I'm used to full face helmets for motorcycles. The half shell type just does not seem good enough to me, my face wants protection! But some people are OK with them.
You’d overheat in a heartbeat.
 
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