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If you haven't tried i-orp this year, you might consider running again...there's an "Obamacare Cliff" checkbox now (new to me, maybe old-hat to regular users).
In my case, the checkbox appeared to make things worse (the total annual spend was lower with the box checked). But to make it apples to apples, you have to add-in the annual subsidy. Once I did that, it was plain that fussing with income to get the subsidy is better than not. The model limits to under 400% FPL and presumes two people if you have the spouse age populated. I have two more years with three people, but I get the gist of what the model was doing, and I can easily go in that direction (more tIRA to Roth conversions).
The model does 72t (automatically if needed), but doesn't do age 55 rule 401k (I'm 56). I don't think that caused any big differences (gut feel after digging through the output).
I know v*riable annuity is a dirty word here. Mine is a Vanguard equity fund wrapped as insurance (nothing complicated or costly, never compelled to annuitize). I had my reasons. Anyway, the gains come out first, and then the contributions come out tax free. There is nowhere to put that in the inputs, so I put the tax free money (that's currently buried under gains) in the "Illiquid Assets" bucket, and through trial and error, had those assets released after I had done enough 59 1/2 pulls (paying tax just like pulling from a tIRA). I presume that my first priority would be to "un-bury" the basis in the VA. It does slam out of the VA into a different asset allocation (the destination [after tax] is a much lower percent equities). But all-in-all, I think I've got that worked out close enough in the model.
For my HSA, it's small right now, so doesn't hold much sway in the model, no matter how I manage it. But the model isn't going to tell you when to spend it. That's fine for me...reduce complexity of the input screen as well as the LP model and constraints.
My traditional IRA pool contains some (7%) after tax money. Not a big deal in my case, and the model errs on the conservative side.
In summary, getting my situation into i-orp worked pretty well. There are a few work-arounds that I had to use, but I think the model returned an accurate result. This is a fantastic tool, very glad to have access to it! Now I need to get out from behind this computer and spend some money!
In my case, the checkbox appeared to make things worse (the total annual spend was lower with the box checked). But to make it apples to apples, you have to add-in the annual subsidy. Once I did that, it was plain that fussing with income to get the subsidy is better than not. The model limits to under 400% FPL and presumes two people if you have the spouse age populated. I have two more years with three people, but I get the gist of what the model was doing, and I can easily go in that direction (more tIRA to Roth conversions).
The model does 72t (automatically if needed), but doesn't do age 55 rule 401k (I'm 56). I don't think that caused any big differences (gut feel after digging through the output).
I know v*riable annuity is a dirty word here. Mine is a Vanguard equity fund wrapped as insurance (nothing complicated or costly, never compelled to annuitize). I had my reasons. Anyway, the gains come out first, and then the contributions come out tax free. There is nowhere to put that in the inputs, so I put the tax free money (that's currently buried under gains) in the "Illiquid Assets" bucket, and through trial and error, had those assets released after I had done enough 59 1/2 pulls (paying tax just like pulling from a tIRA). I presume that my first priority would be to "un-bury" the basis in the VA. It does slam out of the VA into a different asset allocation (the destination [after tax] is a much lower percent equities). But all-in-all, I think I've got that worked out close enough in the model.
For my HSA, it's small right now, so doesn't hold much sway in the model, no matter how I manage it. But the model isn't going to tell you when to spend it. That's fine for me...reduce complexity of the input screen as well as the LP model and constraints.
My traditional IRA pool contains some (7%) after tax money. Not a big deal in my case, and the model errs on the conservative side.
In summary, getting my situation into i-orp worked pretty well. There are a few work-arounds that I had to use, but I think the model returned an accurate result. This is a fantastic tool, very glad to have access to it! Now I need to get out from behind this computer and spend some money!