Appreciate any guidance here. I could contact SS but it seems so ambiguous in my case I'm not sure I want to raise a flag. OTOH I don't want to have to retro pay.
I'm not likely to claim SS until 70 (now 62). Obviously I'm curious as to what the payout would really be. I can see the estimated benefit on their site just fine, but then I run into the WEP alert. Basically it applies "if you earned a pension in any job where you did not pay SS taxes and also worked long enough to qualify for a SS retirement or disability benefit." I cannot figure out if that applies to me.
I have 25 years of qualifying payments into the system. I worked 14 years in a local government where no SS was paid. Moved around, and spent 15 years in local government that uses State pension system (NC). 5-10 years ago I discovered that NC allows you to purchase at full actuarial value up to 10 years of service provided you have at least that many years in a recognized government for which you now are no longer able to receive a benefit. As I took my money out of the previous locality's system for several reasons, I could therefore buy 10 years. I did. Allowed me to leave with no penalty at 60.
So the crux of the matter is, for the purpose of WEP, did I "earn" any of this pension in a job "where I did not pay SS taxes?" I paid the buy in with after tax dollars, it's not a pension of the previous employer but a pension of the last where I paid SS, and the 10 year buy was permitted (my term) because of the prior employment, but not provided by it.
When I first discovered this a year ago I was pretty sure I was toast. Reading it more carefully now I'm not sure that it would apply to me. And the way I got those 10 years is pretty obscure to the computers I'd think, so not sure it would be picked up unless I held my hand up. And I would if I was sure it applied.
Anyone have any experience with anything like this? Thanks in advance!
I'm not likely to claim SS until 70 (now 62). Obviously I'm curious as to what the payout would really be. I can see the estimated benefit on their site just fine, but then I run into the WEP alert. Basically it applies "if you earned a pension in any job where you did not pay SS taxes and also worked long enough to qualify for a SS retirement or disability benefit." I cannot figure out if that applies to me.
I have 25 years of qualifying payments into the system. I worked 14 years in a local government where no SS was paid. Moved around, and spent 15 years in local government that uses State pension system (NC). 5-10 years ago I discovered that NC allows you to purchase at full actuarial value up to 10 years of service provided you have at least that many years in a recognized government for which you now are no longer able to receive a benefit. As I took my money out of the previous locality's system for several reasons, I could therefore buy 10 years. I did. Allowed me to leave with no penalty at 60.
So the crux of the matter is, for the purpose of WEP, did I "earn" any of this pension in a job "where I did not pay SS taxes?" I paid the buy in with after tax dollars, it's not a pension of the previous employer but a pension of the last where I paid SS, and the 10 year buy was permitted (my term) because of the prior employment, but not provided by it.
When I first discovered this a year ago I was pretty sure I was toast. Reading it more carefully now I'm not sure that it would apply to me. And the way I got those 10 years is pretty obscure to the computers I'd think, so not sure it would be picked up unless I held my hand up. And I would if I was sure it applied.
Anyone have any experience with anything like this? Thanks in advance!