Newly retired at 51...

netternator

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Hi Everyone,

New retired at 51 living on the East Coast. Been working in a science-based career since 1998 with an 8-year "break" for more flex time with kids. During this time, I consulted and exhausted much energy into several passive income schemes (podcasting, online courses, web-based business, etc). Consulting income was decent, but all my business ideas never went anywhere (lacked the confidence to invest the time and $ to make things work). After feeling exhausted and discouraged, I went back to work full time 4 years ago and just quit that job. Reasons for leaving were extreme boredom, misalignment of values, and having my eyes opened up to the FIRE movement. This is starting my 2nd full week of freedom! Woo-hoo! Hubby is an engineer whose been with the same company his whole career. I'm working on convincing him to come along for the ride. He's more conservative than I plus I do think that is more 'mainstream' for a female to leave the workforce. Taking the leap to leave was the hardest part due to general inertia and sense of obligation to keep working.

We surpassed our fat FIRE number rather blindly while stumbling upon the early retirement mindset about 2 years ago. Still nervous about health care if hubby also leaves his job. Also thinking about moving to a lower taxation state (we are in MD). We have about 550K equity in our home with about 225K left on a 15-year 2.25% rate mortgage. In 2 years, planning to downsize to a smaller home we can pay cash for with our equity. I'm looking forward to using the next couple of years to slowly organize and improve our home so it's ready for sale. We have 2 kids: one a freshman in college and the other a junior at the local public HS. Extremely fortunate that grandparents fully funded 529s for their education.

Some books/podcasts that got me to this point
  • Tim Ferris show and the "4-hour workweek": was my initial push to take my career "break" in 2012 so I credit him with changing my mindset from the daily grind. Can't say his passive income tactics worked out for me, but this is what got me to discover FIRE. His "Mr Money Mustache" interview was my first intro to FIRE.
  • Credit card hacking: "the points guy" and "one mile at a time". When I first left my corporate job in 2012, I missed the travel and was able to take many trips and dozens of free hotel stays over the years. this definitely got me into the "optimization" mindset. Currently working on the Capital One Venture bonus but the Chase Ultimate Rewards is my favorite travel portal using points.
  • Favorite podcasts: Choose FI, Journey to Launch, Afford Anything, All the Hacks.
  • Favorite Books: Die with Zero (this is what put me over the edge to quit), Millionaire Next Door, Quit Like a Millionaire
  • Also enrolled in Paula Pant's online real estate course which was excellent! I had the notion that when I left my job, I would get into real estate since I still felt like I needed a "job". But after taking the course and doing more FIRE calculators, I realized that with our age and nest egg, this is not necessary. Plus, the current interest rates and inflated housing market really suck. I also had a silly idea to buy a condo for my son to live in while in college. the knowledge from the course made me understand that that was a bad idea (very inflated market where he goes to school).
Things I'm going to work on:
  • Having the right retirement mindset with a routine and goals
  • Friendships and spending time with my daughter during her last 1.5 years at home. We have some goals to do some serious backpacking!
  • Working on my health and fitness - I've let this slide...
  • Getting our finances in order. Have some assets with Morgan Stanley (a family connection) but thinking of getting out of that due to the fees. Looking to set up more of a cash cushion/yield shield as described in the Quit Like a Millionaire book.
  • Finding a team of fiduciary/tax advisor that is familiar with the FIRE mindset and optimizing for early retirement.
  • Setting up a "bucketed" approach with our retirement funds.
  • Looking into setting up a 72t which will give us assess to our retirements accounts so hubby can quit as well.
Looking forward to participating in message boards! I'm finding that FIRE is as much about the mindset as it is the $. It's really hard to detach from societal norms!
 
Welcome to the forum. It sounds like you were/are mentally ready. Nothing wrong with letting your husband work a bit more if he likes the job, and it provides the health care and some padding of the nestegg. You should be able to get ACA healthcare once he retires, assuming that he does not have a retiree health benefit. Without specific numbers, it seems that you and husband have the financials under control. My suggestion is read a lot on here, and consider going self directed without any advisor fees. You have time, now educate yourself on the financial aspects of retiring.

Enjoy your free time and being able to spend time with your daughter, and son when he is home from school. Don't worry about fitting into any society expectation, do what works for you and family. The old saying, "retire when you've had enough, and you have enough."
 
Thanks so much @38Chevy454 for the welcome! My husband is no longer satisfied with his career but I'm hoping I can use my free time and tips from the message board to set up the plan for our new lifestyle, so he feels more comfortable taking the leap! Kudos to you retiring early!
 
Welcome. We look forward to hearing your FIRE journey. Feel free to share often in these pages.
 
A great place to be with so much knowledge and good people.
 
Your first post indicates you already have a phD in early retirement. Now it's time to practice. You might not need to hire out the financial planning portion...there are a few basic principles and if you have questions about how those apply to your situation, there are a lot of wise folks here that will cover the basics (getting you 90% of the way there) and quickly get into the weeds arguing about the last 10% :) Meanwhile you've already got your answer.
 
Your first post indicates you already have a phD in early retirement. Now it's time to practice. You might not need to hire out the financial planning portion...there are a few basic principles and if you have questions about how those apply to your situation, there are a lot of wise folks here that will cover the basics (getting you 90% of the way there) and quickly get into the weeds arguing about the last 10% :) Meanwhile you've already got your answer.
Thank you @sengsational! I agree about the hiring out the financial portion. I'm seriously considering getting out of Morgan Stanley. The 0.8% coupled with the high fee investment options they choose make no sense and I do enjoy managing myself. Now that I'm retired, I will have the time to learn all the tricks from this message board. Was just too busy to think about these things before and happy to have someone do the thinking for me.

It's funny that this topic really hits home with me. I can't seem to get enough FI information to consume! I think I've found my place :)
 
Funny - just compared my husband's and my employee sponsored 401K results for the past year to the SEP IRA Morgan Stanley manages and the investments we chose on our own are tracking 2 and 3% better than the MS returns (which include their fees).
 
Funny - just compared my husband's and my employee sponsored 401K results for the past year to the SEP IRA Morgan Stanley manages and the investments we chose on our own are tracking 2 and 3% better than the MS returns (which include their fees).
Yeah, fees are a killer! Avoid them like the plague.
 
Welcome to the forum netternator. I would strongly recommend that you put working on your health front and center as well as enjoying additional time with your DD. The rest will come . . .
 
Welcome from another retired Engineer. There a re lots of us on here. Semi retired at 48, fully at 54. Now 65 with no regrets.
 
Hi Everyone,

New retired at 51 living on the East Coast. Been working in a science-based career since 1998 with an 8-year "break" for more flex time with kids. During this time, I consulted and exhausted much energy into several passive income schemes (podcasting, online courses, web-based business, etc). Consulting income was decent, but all my business ideas never went anywhere (lacked the confidence to invest the time and $ to make things work). After feeling exhausted and discouraged, I went back to work full time 4 years ago and just quit that job. Reasons for leaving were extreme boredom, misalignment of values, and having my eyes opened up to the FIRE movement. This is starting my 2nd full week of freedom! Woo-hoo! Hubby is an engineer whose been with the same company his whole career. I'm working on convincing him to come along for the ride. He's more conservative than I plus I do think that is more 'mainstream' for a female to leave the workforce. Taking the leap to leave was the hardest part due to general inertia and sense of obligation to keep working.

We surpassed our fat FIRE number rather blindly while stumbling upon the early retirement mindset about 2 years ago. Still nervous about health care if hubby also leaves his job. Also thinking about moving to a lower taxation state (we are in MD). We have about 550K equity in our home with about 225K left on a 15-year 2.25% rate mortgage. In 2 years, planning to downsize to a smaller home we can pay cash for with our equity. I'm looking forward to using the next couple of years to slowly organize and improve our home so it's ready for sale. We have 2 kids: one a freshman in college and the other a junior at the local public HS. Extremely fortunate that grandparents fully funded 529s for their education.

Some books/podcasts that got me to this point
  • Tim Ferris show and the "4-hour workweek": was my initial push to take my career "break" in 2012 so I credit him with changing my mindset from the daily grind. Can't say his passive income tactics worked out for me, but this is what got me to discover FIRE. His "Mr Money Mustache" interview was my first intro to FIRE.
  • Credit card hacking: "the points guy" and "one mile at a time". When I first left my corporate job in 2012, I missed the travel and was able to take many trips and dozens of free hotel stays over the years. this definitely got me into the "optimization" mindset. Currently working on the Capital One Venture bonus but the Chase Ultimate Rewards is my favorite travel portal using points.
  • Favorite podcasts: Choose FI, Journey to Launch, Afford Anything, All the Hacks.
  • Favorite Books: Die with Zero (this is what put me over the edge to quit), Millionaire Next Door, Quit Like a Millionaire
  • Also enrolled in Paula Pant's online real estate course which was excellent! I had the notion that when I left my job, I would get into real estate since I still felt like I needed a "job". But after taking the course and doing more FIRE calculators, I realized that with our age and nest egg, this is not necessary. Plus, the current interest rates and inflated housing market really suck. I also had a silly idea to buy a condo for my son to live in while in college. the knowledge from the course made me understand that that was a bad idea (very inflated market where he goes to school).
Things I'm going to work on:
  • Having the right retirement mindset with a routine and goals
  • Friendships and spending time with my daughter during her last 1.5 years at home. We have some goals to do some serious backpacking!
  • Working on my health and fitness - I've let this slide...
  • Getting our finances in order. Have some assets with Morgan Stanley (a family connection) but thinking of getting out of that due to the fees. Looking to set up more of a cash cushion/yield shield as described in the Quit Like a Millionaire book.
  • Finding a team of fiduciary/tax advisor that is familiar with the FIRE mindset and optimizing for early retirement.
  • Setting up a "bucketed" approach with our retirement funds.
  • Looking into setting up a 72t which will give us assess to our retirements accounts so hubby can quit as well.
Looking forward to participating in message boards! I'm finding that FIRE is as much about the mindset as it is the $. It's really hard to detach from societal norms!
I am 52 and very close to FI but still wanting to work for now. Do you mind sharing your current NW number, expense number, and such number?

I have a couple kids in high school so just curious if we have a similar profile. If nothing else, looking for inspiration that I don’t need to stay in high stress, high hours job much longer. Thans
 
I am 52 and very close to FI but still wanting to work for now. Do you mind sharing your current NW number, expense number, and such number?

I have a couple kids in high school so just curious if we have a similar profile. If nothing else, looking for inspiration that I don’t need to stay in high stress, high hours job much longer. Thans
I'm no good with the search function, but there have been threads and polls on this.

You don't really need our input if you experiment with FIRECalc. It should give you a pretty good idea of where you stand.
 
I am 52 and very close to FI but still wanting to work for now. Do you mind sharing your current NW number, expense number, and such number?

I have a couple kids in high school so just curious if we have a similar profile. If nothing else, looking for inspiration that I don’t need to stay in high stress, high hours job much longer. Thans
Hi @mydogwantsmetoretire. much is tied up in retirement accounts and ESOP (only about 300K in taxable acct). Annual expenses are a bit high (150-200K) but some home improvements and hefty activities for 2 high school age kids are included in those expenses. Hoping to work with a FIRE savvy fiduciary to help us plan some creative ways to get early access to funds.

Glad you are still wanting to work. I'm definitely done and my husband is getting there as well.
 
Congrats...Enjoy!.

I retired at 53 (I'm 68 now)...was a computer programmer and was extremely burned out. I had always expected to go back to work but was diagnosed with multiple myeloma (blood cancer) at 56 and said screw it, why go back to work now. It all worked out for the best. I was "lucky" and have been in remission since the initial cancer treatments. I learned to manage my money and my investments have continued to grow slowly over the years. I'm happy with my decision and I never looked back. I hope you feel the same in the years ahead! Having said that, things change and you're allowed to change your mind. Good luck! The feeling of "every day is Saturday" or "what day is today" is great!
 
Congrats and welcome to the forum. You will find a bunch of great people and advice here … and I’m sure contribute to the dialogue as well!
 
I'm no good with the search function, but there have been threads and polls on this.

You don't really need our input if you experiment with FIRECalc. It should give you a pretty good idea of where you stand.
Thanks - FireCalc, Boldin, and my FA (fixed fee, not AUM) all say we are pretty much there in optimistic and average return scenarios. I struggle with self-doubt that I will not run out of money as I grew up with little money and it was stressful. Any tips appreciated.
 

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