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Yes but.... .the right professional school looks at what undergrad school you go too... plus their entrance exams...
I agree. I meant only that employers who are looking for lawyers and doctors will be much more concerned about the law or medical school than about the undergraduate school. I should have been clearer.Yes but.... .the right professional school looks at what undergrad school you go too... plus their entrance exams...
Both Pitt and Penn State (main campuses) are very selective and filled with high-achieving students. I have a degree from both of them, and then went on to eventually become a VP at a small private university after a successful first career in IT. For your DD, I strongly suggest Pitt or Penn State.QUANDRY:
State College would be U Pittsburgh or Penn State. IF we get into private colleges I feel it'll be full-pay. (My assets means $90k expected pay ability ). Right now, NOT close to sure about future profession.... mild interest in teaching, BUT showing tons of interest in Advanced Biology and Anatomy. (Oh God please why not something with good pay! lol)
Is it better to go all out, do the private 'selective' college for a 4 year degree? OR better to do a state school, then pour on the money for a good master's program - but then have money left for the seedling to a retirement fund, home ownership, etc?
Would love any opinions or experiences.
This is truly the first time I regret having kids and regret not doing the college thing because now, I cannot advise or guide on any of this stuff.
I don't understand this statement. The idea of community college is to get the required course w*rk out of the way as inexpensively as possible. If someone is motivated, they will learn what they need to learn at a junior college. They'll save enough money to spend more on the school they plan to graduate from. It may not be for everyone, but it's strategic. YMMVAdditionally, your daughter is too motivated and academically talented to start out at a community college as other(s) have suggested.
Good luck!
I will agree with you to a sense... but a really smart motivated student will more than likely already have a lot of these credit hours from high school... at least my kids did... I think my DD had 27 or so hours credit...I don't understand this statement. The idea of community college is to get the required course w*rk out of the way as inexpensively as possible. If someone is motivated, they will learn what they need to learn at a junior college. They'll save enough money to spend more on the school they plan to graduate from. It may not be for everyone, but it's strategic. YMMV
There are now a few medical schools that are tuition free thanks to large donations over the past couple years. Most recently Michael Bloomberg giving $1 billion to Johns Hopkins. Expect there to be more in the future as more billionaires look to leave their mark on society.I do not see a two million dollar hole...
I have a nephew who is a Dr... just had the rest of his student loans forgiven as he worked in a charity hospital for 10 years... but his debt was less than $500K...
My DD is planning on going to dental school... she said her debt will be in the $400K to $500K...
So how do you get to $2 mill?
Brings back bad memories of my start in accounting. I was an accounting "clerk" at a Fortune 50 oil company full time while attending college at night. To be a "professional" you had to have a degree. Only "professionals" got chairs with arms and got to sit next to a window. I was doing the exact same job as them, but was a low-life clerk. After 7 years of night school at a private college, I finally took my last class (Speech). I was immediately given a raise, a chair with arms, and moved 10 feet closer to the window. I told my boss they must think very highly of my Speech class.My Megacorp was incredibly "prejudiced" when it came to degree vs no degree and also which degree (BA, MS, PhD) and WHERE you got your degree.
With no degree, it was virtually impossible to be designated as a "professional" (we called it "exempt.") Now, it WAS possible to earn a good living by moving up in the non-exempt c@reer track BUT, without a degree, you weren't going to be asked to professional meetings or travel, etc.
I mentioned that and got a strong NO...and don't forget the military option: Health Professions Scholarship Program - Wikipedia
I will say that accounting is slightly different but I remember way back when a manager was talking about the requirements for doing a job... one was a college degree... ANY college degree...Brings back bad memories of my start in accounting. I was an accounting "clerk" at a Fortune 50 oil company full time while attending college at night. To be a "professional" you had to have a degree. Only "professionals" got chairs with arms and got to sit next to a window. I was doing the exact same job as them, but was a low-life clerk. After 7 years of night school at a private college, I finally took my last class (Speech). I was immediately given a raise, a chair with arms, and moved 10 feet closer to the window. I told my boss they must think very highly of my Speech class.
Megacrop was "worse." They began to renege on promises of raises and advancement for those who took advantage of the company's education plan. Megacorp paid the cost of course w*rk if you were degree seeking in one of our scientific specialties. Of course, books, transportation, make-up w*rk time were all on the student. From experience, I can affirm that the "benefit" was about 1/3 the cost of obtaining the next degree (MS in my case.)Brings back bad memories of my start in accounting. I was an accounting "clerk" at a Fortune 50 oil company full time while attending college at night. To be a "professional" you had to have a degree. Only "professionals" got chairs with arms and got to sit next to a window. I was doing the exact same job as them, but was a low-life clerk. After 7 years of night school at a private college, I finally took my last class (Speech). I was immediately given a raise, a chair with arms, and moved 10 feet closer to the window. I told my boss they must think very highly of my Speech class.
I see what you are saying. Having said that, a school known for turning out actors must have a very limited set of alternative majors compared to a STEM school. (My STEM university DID have a "Drama department" in the English major school.) It even had two entire theaters to w*rk in.I don't think there is a one size fits all answer to your question. We took our daughter to visit all types of schools to see where she would feel most comfortable. We did big and small private and public, religiously affiliated, in-state, out of state. We told her what we budgeted for school and said she could keep whatever she didn't spend or take out loans if it exceeded our budget. Then she settled on acting as a major and decided to apply to one safety school and then only to the best of the best programs since that gave her the best chance of success in such a competitive field. She was talented and got in to NYU. Is she now an actress? No. She decided it wasn't the career for her. Did she have an amazing experience? Yes. Is she working in the industry? Yes. Is she considering grad school? Yes, but here's the point. There is so much more to the college experience than the major. How many of us can say we got a degree that led us straight to a lifelong career? I surely can't. About 30% of college freshman change their majors in their freshman year. So maybe you help her pick a school with a good program in what she thinks she wants to study now (it might change) and that has other good programs if she does change majors. If she picks a cheaper school there will be more money left for grad school (if she decides to do that) or a down payment on a house. If she spends more, she can take out loans. What a great life lesson to teach setting goals, budgeting, and compromising.
Having said that, a school known for turning out actors must have a very limited set of alternative majors compared to a STEM school.
Yeah, I'm sure it varies, school to school. My STEM school had something like 30,000 students with a huge range of majors and individual classes. There was something for almost everyone there - even Drama.This is absolutely not the case.
NYU is a good example. USC is another. Possibly the one that does fall in to your view is Julliard, which is obviously focused on the arts.