Renting at 80 rather than owning a home

Why? You are doing that if you rent or own a condo.
Indirectly by paying your rent or HOA fees but it isn't your responsibility. You don't have to seek out contractors, interview them, check references, etc. And you don't have to let them go if you're not pleased with their work. If they accidentally damage something, you're not the one who has to deal with it. Someone else handles all of that. You just pay your share.
 
I could not have said that any better, disneysteve. I look forward to the idea of simply paying rent. If you asked me that 10 years ago, I would not opt for renting. However, in 4 months I am 80. Climbing up and down stairs, cutting my grass, trimming constantly, buying a new washing machine because my old one is not working , etc, etc. If you like staying in your house in your 80's and 90's and being responsible for all the upkeep, all the power to you.
 
That sounds like very legitimate reason. Climbing stairs would become more and more challenging while aging.
I see many responses voicing concerns about stairs while aging. Stair lifts are an easy solution, aren't that expensive and certainly cheaper than moving. Maybe I'll see things differently in 10 or 20 years.
 
freedomatlast, I think maybe you might think differently in 10 or 20 years. Maybe not. How I looked at my life situation at the age of 70 was very different than I do now at 80. The idea of eventually renting was never in my plans when I bought this house at 70. True, I might lose some money over the next 10 years if I rented rather than keep my house. but the amount of time it frees up not having to deal with upkeep is worth it.
 
Many years ago we had a very nice elderly guy living next door in our single family house neighborhood. He lost his wife before we had moved there. He was very active taking his dog for walks and doing his gardening. He was a very upbeat person. I think he was about 80 too. He noticed he was getting a little forgetful with things like pots on the stove. He mentioned being lonely in his house sometimes. He sold his home and moved to a retirement facility with lots of activities. We visited him a few times and he was loving it there. He made lots of new friends and really enjoyed dining with the other residents there. He said he got tired of cooking for himself and was happy to let others take over that task. It was a lovely setting that backed up to a small stream and large trees. He had all the ducks around coming to him around feeding time.
I could definitely see moving to a place like that or like your thinking to simplify life. This is a good thread for presenting options for all of us facing the same options down the road.
 
Another thought. To me another huge advantage in having my mom sell the house and move into a rental is what happens when she dies. If she is in a house there’s the enormous stress of clearing out the house, having to via long distance keep the property up for resale, dealing with contractors to make it ready, re agents, the sadness of making trips to a vacant house, beneficiary issues, ugh. No thanks!!!!
 
How I looked at my life situation at the age of 70 was very different than I do now at 80. ...
That's an important observation, in general (not just regarding living arrangements). I'm barely in my mid-50s, and don't notice much change over the past... 50 years. I am basically the same person as I was in, well, in childhood, not to mention young-adulthood or early middle age. But one hears that things really start changing at age 60-65, and especially so, another decade or two thereafter. So, I can extrapolate my needs/wants/sentiments with some confidence, to maybe a decade into the future. Beyond that, it's foggy.

Also, few of my former relatives made it to age 70, and only one grandparent made it (barely) into her 80s. I am already approaching the age when the males in my family started dying off. The future is foggy indeed!

Bottom line: it is very reasonable to suppose a substantial change in sentiments - about housing, about anything - between one's late-middle-age self, and one's elderly-self.
 
That's an important observation, in general (not just regarding living arrangements). I'm barely in my mid-50s, and don't notice much change over the past... 50 years. I am basically the same person as I was in, well, in childhood, not to mention young-adulthood or early middle age. But one hears that things really start changing at age 60-65, and especially so, another decade or two thereafter. So, I can extrapolate my needs/wants/sentiments with some confidence, to maybe a decade into the future. Beyond that, it's foggy.

Also, few of my former relatives made it to age 70, and only one grandparent made it (barely) into her 80s. I am already approaching the age when the males in my family started dying off. The future is foggy indeed!

Bottom line: it is very reasonable to suppose a substantial change in sentiments - about housing, about anything - between one's late-middle-age self, and one's elderly-self.
Not really. Don’t have that mindset. You shouldn’t let old age ( or in your case impending old age) define how you live your life. I certainly don’t. At 79 I can unequivocally say this is the absolute best times of my life.
 
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I could not agree with you more. For me, this is the best time of my life. I am fortunate to have the freedom to choose to alter my living arrangements so that I do not have to do all the yard work necessary to own a house. Saying this is the best time of your life does not mean that a person's thoughts about making daily life easier by renting instead of owning a house indicates life is not so good. Life is good!

When I was 67, my mindset was I will work to maintain a beautiful yard and keep busy. Best time of my life. Since I am 80 this year, my thinking has changed. It just does. This is still the best of times.
 
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DW and I are currently touring the local independent/assisted living communities, looking at their housing facilities. While we have no current desire to leave our home, nothing in life is guaranteed, so better to be prepared and understand what is out there. From what we have seen so far, we would opt for a cottage or patio home rather than an apartment. I guess we still would want to hang on to some semblance of our version of "ownership" :) . DW also enjoys playing her piano and Hammond organ; though we might have to get rid of one if and when we downsize, it would be less intrusive in a smaller home than an apartment (and I do not even know if, in the places we have looked at, they would allow that in an apartment).

So we hope to stay in our home as long as possible, increasing our BTD spending on inside and outside home care as needed or desired. But we are not ruling out anything yet.
 
I see many responses voicing concerns about stairs while aging. Stair lifts are an easy solution, aren't that expensive and certainly cheaper than moving. Maybe I'll see things differently in 10 or 20 years.
Sometimes it is just the two steps onto the porch or those into the vast majority of attached garages that are the most problematic.
 
We sold our 4BR home in NY and moved to SoCal. We’re renting an apartment for two reasons: price and flexibility. We don’t know what our needs will be five or 10 years from now - move to be near grandkids? Time will tell.
 
I see many responses voicing concerns about stairs while aging. Stair lifts are an easy solution, aren't that expensive and certainly cheaper than moving. Maybe I'll see things differently in 10 or 20 years.
That is why when we bought a house in Florida, it had to be one story, so the stair decision would be out of the equation.
 
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After spending the majority of my life overseas (40 years) as a teacher in quite a few countries, I returned to the States in 2013 at the age of 67. I bought a house in NW Washington state, and now it's been almost 13 years in this house. When I first moved in, the stairs were fine, but now I'd prefer one floor. I'm single, and while I love my neighborhood, the heavy yard work is becoming an activity I do not enjoy as much. I have visited some rental apartments for 55 and over and some not 55 and over, both with lots of activities. I'm tempted to escape the yard work and the responsibility of home ownership by renting. I'm wondering if some of you have, or have had, similar desires after owning a home, I appreciate hearing if you are now happy as a renter, or maybe you miss home ownership. Thank you.
I sold my house nine years ago and moved to a condo on the intercoastal waterway in Fort Lauderdale. I’m much happier. I miss my garage in my backyard in my garden but everything else about is better. And cheaper.
 
Hitting 80+ (and in questionable health) might be a good idea for renting but I think the value there is not so much living there as it is when one spouse dies.

A surviving spouse might have to deal with the hassle and risk of finally dealing with selling the home alone. Renting, nothing changes and if assisted living or nursing home becomes the next step its just a matter of handing in the keys.

We sold our beloved 52 foot sailboat for exactly that reason. Had a heckuva time unloading it as its not the kind of thing you just throw onto Craigslist. Nothing I'd want to saddle DW with. We joined a boat club instead. If I'm not around, canceling the club is just a matter of a phone call.
 
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After spending the majority of my life overseas (40 years) as a teacher in quite a few countries, I returned to the States in 2013 at the age of 67. I bought a house in NW Washington state, and now it's been almost 13 years in this house. When I first moved in, the stairs were fine, but now I'd prefer one floor. I'm single, and while I love my neighborhood, the heavy yard work is becoming an activity I do not enjoy as much. I have visited some rental apartments for 55 and over and some not 55 and over, both with lots of activities. I'm tempted to escape the yard work and the responsibility of home ownership by renting. I'm wondering if some of you have, or have had, similar desires after owning a home, I appreciate hearing if you are now happy as a renter, or maybe you miss home ownership. Thank you.
While owning our home was wonderful, we decided to sell it during Covid and became full time Floridians. Note we already also owned a small 2 bedroom condo in Marco , doing the snow bird thing , then decided to upgrade to a larger 3 bedroom unit, Honestly it is just wonderful having nothing to do like yard work snow blowing. Yes we pay an association monthly fee but considering we have no mortgage the association fee/insurance/utility bills etc still is so much lower than renting! Note age wise we did the move from selling our larger 4000 sq ft home on 1 1/2 acre lot 6 years ago when we were 66 and don't; regret a second of it. As for just plane out renting , we have never been a fan due to having no equity building up, so for us buying into an association (where everything maintenwise is taken care of) has been ideal for us. But it all comes down to dollars and sense and what works for each person.
 
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After watching and helping relatives in their late 80s and early 90s, I've pretty much decided to move into assisted living when we are 85 whether we need to or not. While I concede that things might change, I have zero interest in aging in place in either of our current homes.

To me, the whole subcontracting of home maintenance is a real benefit, but the bigger benefit is not having to do meal planning, preparation and cleanup. That's huge IMO.
 
At 80, I wouldn’t consider this a financial decision as many have framed it. Whether the OP finds a rental, a condo/townhome purchase, a more suitable SFH purchase, assisted living, etc., it’s more about finding the best home for the lifestyle. Single level floor plan, no exterior maintenance, location, access to healthcare, desired activities, etc. would guide my decision, with ownership/rental not even factoring into the decision.
 
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I'm 73 and making the decision a bit early, but will be putting my home on the market next week and moving to a retirement community 3 hours away near DS and DDIL. They tell me the average age at entry is high 70s/low 80s. If I need assistance with daily living activities down the road I stay in my unit and pay for what's needed. They have long-term care, which is priced separately but I'll also get back 85% of my buy-in fee if I move for any reason, including entering LTC. This also gives me a choice in LTC facilities if I need it- not locked into theirs.

It will kill me to leave the good life I've built in the 20+ years I've lived in this area but right now I'm relatively healthy, mobile, can still drive, etc. so can maybe build a life there including a good church community and maybe a good man (I'm already on the free version of a couple of dating sites noting that I'm about to move to the area). I figure the older I am when I make this move, the harder it will be.

But... the garden takes a ton of effort and I'm tired of all the maintenance responsibilities, especially repairs. I can also travel for 3 or 4 weeks at a time and not have to worry about anything. It's time.
 
I'm 73 and making the decision a bit early, but will be putting my home on the market next week and moving to a retirement community 3 hours away near DS and DDIL. They tell me the average age at entry is high 70s/low 80s. If I need assistance with daily living activities down the road I stay in my unit and pay for what's needed. They have long-term care, which is priced separately but I'll also get back 85% of my buy-in fee if I move for any reason, including entering LTC. This also gives me a choice in LTC facilities if I need it- not locked into theirs.

It will kill me to leave the good life I've built in the 20+ years I've lived in this area but right now I'm relatively healthy, mobile, can still drive, etc. so can maybe build a life there including a good church community and maybe a good man (I'm already on the free version of a couple of dating sites noting that I'm about to move to the area). I figure the older I am when I make this move, the harder it will be.

But... the garden takes a ton of effort and I'm tired of all the maintenance responsibilities, especially repairs. I can also travel for 3 or 4 weeks at a time and not have to worry about anything. It's time.
It's a tough choice but, for you, the pros seem to outweigh the cons. Good luck!!
 
After watching and helping relatives in their late 80s and early 90s, I've pretty much decided to move into assisted living when we are 85 whether we need to or not. While I concede that things might change, I have zero interest in aging in place in either of our current homes.

To me, the whole subcontracting of home maintenance is a real benefit, but the bigger benefit is not having to do meal planning, preparation and cleanup. That's huge IMO.
You are tempting me.

But so far, DW and I have looked. We've been reasonably impressed, but these places seem to change owners more often than I change socks (once a week - heh, heh, I put on socks for church)!

Doing the math on the prices, we could hire a LOT of in-home help for the price of assisted living or Continuing Care (or whatever it's called - not sure we would qualify for one of those with our health).

AND we have mainland friends (85ish?). They are in assisted living. They (suddenly) need lots of help (with him). He did go into the "nursing" facility for a while, but now he's back in their assisted living unit but he needs lots of in-home care and It's Ala Carte. VERY expensive.

Beginning to wonder if it's worth it to get old.:(
 
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