Retirement - Year Two

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Tomorrow will make two years since we retired. In the 5 years or so leading up to retirement it seemed like it was never going to happen. We were saving, and planning, and hoping that "someday" we would be able to retire. Now two years of retirement has gone by in a blink. It's hard to believe how quickly time has passed.

It seems we are still busier than ever. Between running our own errands, caring for two elderly mothers, random doctor appointments, and the occasional recreation outing we are always doing something. We literally live by our calendar, hoping for the rare "empty" days when we can relax and do our own thing. Of course, "empty" days usually mean working around the house, mowing the yard, etc. We just cut down a dead tree a couple days ago and are now working on splitting and stacking the wood. I still have a second tree to cut down also.

Before retiring, I estimated our expenses around 45K per year, with an extra 5K for vacations and recreation the first ten years (50K total). In practice we have gone a little over that, averaging around 55K per year. Much of that was due to some major home repairs, which should hold us over for at least a few years.

So far we haven't had to touch our retirement accounts. We had about 60K in savings when we retired, and are down to about 32K today. My wife has a pension of around 30K per year, I'm still getting around 8K of residual income from my old business, and the rest comes from savings.

Initially I was planning to start Social Security at 62 (next year), but I've been running new estimates with current finances and may push that back to 63 or 64. I think the key thing is not to "set it and forget it". Life happens and our retirement plan has to change along the way.

I have a CD ladder in my Roth account paying 15K per year for the next seven years, so we basically have guaranteed income until my wife starts social security, at which point the pension and both SS payments will cover all of our expenses. So the recent stock market volatility hasn't really worried me. It's never fun to watch the account balances go down, but it doesn't really affect us at this point.

We're planning a three week road trip to Colorado later this summer. It will be the longest and most expensive vacation we've ever taken. I just hope my body holds up, as I seem to have one pain after another in my body the last few months. Numerous doctor visits, various scans and tests, with basically no resolution. I've just had to wait it out and hope things improve. For the most part they have, but it seems when one gets better a new one pops up somewhere. It's shocking though how quickly I went from feeling really healthy to having numerous aches and pains. Thankfully none of the issues have been serious yet, but the sudden change in health is an eye opener. Enjoy life now while I still can!

I've also been considering buying a newer car lately. I currently drive a 2000 VW Jetta with 257K miles on it. I love the car and maintain it well, but it's getting up in mileage and I'm finding it harder to climb out of that low riding car these days. Not to mention holding down the clutch in stop and go traffic kills my old feet. We have always bought cars that are 10 years old or so, never paying more than $3500 for a car (I only paid $1900 for my Jetta). Unfortunately, similar vehicles now cost $10-15K. I've run the numbers and know our budget can support that, but I'm still struggling to spend that kind of money. I know, you folks who spend $50K+ on a car are probably laughing at that. :) Then there's the nervousness of buying a used vehicle with unknown problems. How much will those repairs cost, as well as license and insurance expenses. I tend to have analysis paralysis anyway, so I'm having a hard time taking the leap on another vehicle. Especially in a year we're already spending so much on a vacation. On the other hand, these are the go-go years and it would be more beneficial now than 10 years from now. Tough one...

Overall, retirement has been great. Despite spending almost every day with my wife, we both say we can't get enough time together. I guess that's a good reflection of our relationship. We're off on another Tuesday afternoon movie date today. One of the nice perks of being retired. :)
 
Congratulations on 2 years! I'm sorry to hear of your pain issues. I must say, it's not unexpected as we age. Good that you are addressing it with your doctor(s). Few things interfere more with retirement enjoyment than chronic pain. I've spent years trying to deal with back pain - only partially successful but at least partially!

I'm a "used-car" kinda guy as well. I shop for a lightly used but older car and then drive it until it's no longer practical. I do avoid long trips in an older vehicle simply for the hassle factor of a major breakdown 20 miles outside a 1000 population wide-spot in the Road Town.

Sounds like money-wise you've got it all under control.

Keep us posted. We love success stories like yours.
 
Congratulations on two years! Sounds like your financial plan is working.
 
Nice 2 year update.
 
Congratulations on the two year anniversary! I’m currently in the middle of those last five years you described, where you feel like retirement will never come. Stories like yours help keep me keeping on. Sorry to hear about the pain issues. And fingers crossed the issue improves.
 
Congratulations on 2 years! I'm sorry to hear of your pain issues. I must say, it's not unexpected as we age. Good that you are addressing it with your doctor(s). Few things interfere more with retirement enjoyment than chronic pain. I've spent years trying to deal with back pain - only partially successful but at least partially!

It started with testicle pain. Numerous scans and tests, no cause found, eventually it just went away on it's own. Then I started having pains in my right side, more scans and tests, again no cause found, and it eventually just went away too. Then my RIGHT Achilles tendon started hurting, making it almost impossible to walk. That bothered me for weeks until we were cleaning debris off the roof. Somehow standing on that sloped surface stretched it out in a way that meds and exercises couldn't. Hasn't bothered me since. Then I started getting bad pain in my LEFT heel. More x-rays and tests, basically said I had plantar fasciitis. I used some topical arthritis medicine for a couple weeks and it's mostly tolerable now. It still hurts a bit, but at least I can walk and stand on it. Now I get this painful kink on the right side of my butt when we go walking. Sheesh, I can't win. :) Back and forth from one side of my body to the other.

We're planning to do a fair bit of hiking on our vacation, so I've been trying to exercise to ensure we're up to the task. Hopefully my body holds out till then.

I'm a "used-car" kinda guy as well. I shop for a lightly used but older car and then drive it until it's no longer practical. I do avoid long trips in an older vehicle simply for the hassle factor of a major breakdown 20 miles outside a 1000 population wide-spot in the Road Town.

I have done a lot of work on my Jetta in the last several months, so I'm not too worried about taking it on a long road trip.

It's hard to justify buying another car when my current car is working fine. We typically only replace our cars when they have a major breakdown or get in a wreck. Especially when I don't know what new issues would come with the new vehicle. Even though there are practical advantages to getting a different vehicle, it still feels like a "want" instead of a "need" at this point. $15K seems like an expensive "want" to me. :)

Sounds like money-wise you've got it all under control.

It's always a work in progress!
 
Great update. Get used to a pain here and there. I have two new hips and no more hip pain! But other stuff hurts and I just deal with it. But I am 20 years older than you. Keep moving as that's the key.
 
Tomorrow will make two years since we retired. In the 5 years or so leading up to retirement it seemed like it was never going to happen. We were saving, and planning, and hoping that "someday" we would be able to retire. Now two years of retirement has gone by in a blink. It's hard to believe how quickly time has passed.

It seems we are still busier than ever. Between running our own errands, caring for two elderly mothers, random doctor appointments, and the occasional recreation outing we are always doing something. We literally live by our calendar, hoping for the rare "empty" days when we can relax and do our own thing. Of course, "empty" days usually mean working around the house, mowing the yard, etc. We just cut down a dead tree a couple days ago and are now working on splitting and stacking the wood. I still have a second tree to cut down also.

Before retiring, I estimated our expenses around 45K per year, with an extra 5K for vacations and recreation the first ten years (50K total). In practice we have gone a little over that, averaging around 55K per year. Much of that was due to some major home repairs, which should hold us over for at least a few years.

So far we haven't had to touch our retirement accounts. We had about 60K in savings when we retired, and are down to about 32K today. My wife has a pension of around 30K per year, I'm still getting around 8K of residual income from my old business, and the rest comes from savings.

Initially I was planning to start Social Security at 62 (next year), but I've been running new estimates with current finances and may push that back to 63 or 64. I think the key thing is not to "set it and forget it". Life happens and our retirement plan has to change along the way.

I have a CD ladder in my Roth account paying 15K per year for the next seven years, so we basically have guaranteed income until my wife starts social security, at which point the pension and both SS payments will cover all of our expenses. So the recent stock market volatility hasn't really worried me. It's never fun to watch the account balances go down, but it doesn't really affect us at this point.

We're planning a three week road trip to Colorado later this summer. It will be the longest and most expensive vacation we've ever taken. I just hope my body holds up, as I seem to have one pain after another in my body the last few months. Numerous doctor visits, various scans and tests, with basically no resolution. I've just had to wait it out and hope things improve. For the most part they have, but it seems when one gets better a new one pops up somewhere. It's shocking though how quickly I went from feeling really healthy to having numerous aches and pains. Thankfully none of the issues have been serious yet, but the sudden change in health is an eye opener. Enjoy life now while I still can!

I've also been considering buying a newer car lately. I currently drive a 2000 VW Jetta with 257K miles on it. I love the car and maintain it well, but it's getting up in mileage and I'm finding it harder to climb out of that low riding car these days. Not to mention holding down the clutch in stop and go traffic kills my old feet. We have always bought cars that are 10 years old or so, never paying more than $3500 for a car (I only paid $1900 for my Jetta). Unfortunately, similar vehicles now cost $10-15K. I've run the numbers and know our budget can support that, but I'm still struggling to spend that kind of money. I know, you folks who spend $50K+ on a car are probably laughing at that. :) Then there's the nervousness of buying a used vehicle with unknown problems. How much will those repairs cost, as well as license and insurance expenses. I tend to have analysis paralysis anyway, so I'm having a hard time taking the leap on another vehicle. Especially in a year we're already spending so much on a vacation. On the other hand, these are the go-go years and it would be more beneficial now than 10 years from now. Tough one...

Overall, retirement has been great. Despite spending almost every day with my wife, we both say we can't get enough time together. I guess that's a good reflection of our relationship. We're off on another Tuesday afternoon movie date today. One of the nice perks of being retired. :)
Thanks for sharing this. Your story really hits home—especially how retirement doesn’t magically slow life down, it just shifts the kinds of busy you deal with. Sounds like you’re managing your finances well, being flexible, and still finding time for the things (and people) you enjoy. The bit about you and your wife wanting more time together made me smile. That’s the kind of retirement success a spreadsheet can’t measure. Hope the road trip to Colorado is everything you're hoping for, and maybe that newer car will be part of the adventure too.
 
Loved reading your post—it really captures the everyday beauty and balance of retirement. It’s funny how “empty” days end up just as full, just in a different way. Your setup sounds solid, and it’s great to hear that you're adapting your plans as life unfolds. That Colorado trip sounds like a well-deserved adventure—hope your body cooperates and gives you smooth travels. As for the car, I totally get it. Making a big purchase after so many frugal years isn’t easy, but sometimes comfort is worth it in this stage of life. Keep enjoying those Tuesday matinees—little routines like that are the real perks.
 
OP,

Well done! You may want to run more SS scenarios - it's often better to delay to 70 if finances allow; particularly if you suspect or fear you might outlive the average age for your group.

Re: Car - I'd get a newer one than what you're currently driving. You know the budget can handle it, but it can be difficult to switch over from saving to spending. If you do buy a car that lasts 15 years and costs $15k, that's $1,000 / yr or $83.33 / month. Maybe that helps make the decision easier? It doesn't sound like you've got a lot of fat in the budget, but are there places where you could cut back that would be worth having the newer vehicle if things went poorly?
 
About a year after I retired I had a major vertigo attack. Bad enough to where I wouldn't have been able to work for a few months. Got that mostly under control and have been enjoying retirement.
 
I've also been considering buying a newer car lately. I currently drive a 2000 VW Jetta with 257K miles on it. I love the car and maintain it well, but it's getting up in mileage and I'm finding it harder to climb out of that low riding car these days. Not to mention holding down the clutch in stop and go traffic kills my old feet. We have always bought cars that are 10 years old or so, never paying more than $3500 for a car (I only paid $1900 for my Jetta). Unfortunately, similar vehicles now cost $10-15K. I've run the numbers and know our budget can support that, but I'm still struggling to spend that kind of money. I know, you folks who spend $50K+ on a car are probably laughing at that. :) Then there's the nervousness of buying a used vehicle with unknown problems. How much will those repairs cost, as well as license and insurance expenses. I tend to have analysis paralysis anyway, so I'm having a hard time taking the leap on another vehicle. Especially in a year we're already spending so much on a vacation. On the other hand, these are the go-go years and it would be more beneficial now than 10 years from now. Tough one...

Overall, retirement has been great. Despite spending almost every day with my wife, we both say we can't get enough time together. I guess that's a good reflection of our relationship. We're off on another Tuesday afternoon movie date today. One of the nice perks of being retired. :)
Except for 2, we have generally bought new cars, and then kept them 10 years of so. We often got great deals on model year close-outs. It is really nice to have the latest features, and not need to do any repairs for several years. Since RE in 2017, we take an annual month long driving trip out west, and we really don't want to have things go wrong with the car so far from home. We never broke $30K until 2017. In 2021, we went very BTD on a Toyota Highlander Hybrid, for over $50K. However, we got 90% of the purchase price on the 4 year old car that we sold then, which was unbelievable, so the net cost was about $26K.
 
You may want to run more SS scenarios - it's often better to delay to 70 if finances allow... It doesn't sound like you've got a lot of fat in the budget
Correct. We only have about 230K in our retirement accounts. SS and my wife's pension will cover the vast majority of our expenses. Our savings are mostly to cover emergencies, long term care costs, etc.

There is a delicate balance between spending down our savings vs taking social security. Waiting increases our SS benefits, but then we deplete too much of our savings.

Initially all of my calculations showed 62 was our best claiming strategy. However, we've done better than planned the first two years and new calculations are showing 63 or 64 as the best balance point. We'll see when the time comes. It may get pushed back further, or we may decide to take it earlier.

I never earned much in my working years, so the difference between claiming at 62 vs 64 is only a few hundred dollars each year. It really doesn't matter all that much in my case. My wife earned significantly more so her differences are much more significant.
 
Congratulations on your two-year anniversary. I wish many more.

There will be always those that advocate waiting to take SS. It sounds like you have done your homework You do what is best for You. Waiting doesn't mean it is better or a better choice that is a personal choice not to be pushed by others.

Good luck and wish You well.
 
Congrats on finishing your second year of retirement and thanks for the update! I'm approaching my own second anniversary and have been reflecting on the past year.
 
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