Social Security to Require Login.gov

ncbill said:
there is no way I'd ever trust my personal info to id.me.

until the IRS lets one use login.gov I'll stick with DirectPay for any electronic payments.
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just to add. AT&T just leaked out 100% of their customer data so it isn't like there is a "safe" place.
 
I just signed up for login.gov which was easy, but to open MySSA it wanted personal information. At that point I quit out and went back in to MySSA the old way which was fine.
 
Healthy Lifestyle said:
I just signed up for login.gov which was easy, but to open MySSA it wanted personal information. At that point I quit out and went back in to MySSA the old way which was fine.
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according to the email, "soon" you will no longer be able to do this.
 
i converted to this mistakenly a year or two ago. The constant secondary authorization gets annoying.
 
madatrub said:
i converted to this mistakenly a year or two ago. The constant secondary authorization gets annoying.
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beats having your ID stolen. I did someone's taxes last year who had had their ID stolen. They hadn't been able to get their tax refunds and were getting really strung out. I asked them when it happened. Seven years ago. Still working to get it fixed.
 
madatrub said:
i converted to this mistakenly a year or two ago. The constant secondary authorization gets annoying.
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I just logged in to test this - 1Password auto-filled in my id/pw *and* then also auto-filled in the 2-factor number. This was so nice! I was immediately taken to my main profile page.

I started using Login.gov months ago (10/23) and recently converted the wife's account as well. Generally smooth sailing for both.
jebmke said:
beats having your ID stolen. I did someone's taxes last year who had had their ID stolen. They hadn't been able to get their tax refunds and were getting really strung out. I asked them when it happened. Seven years ago. Still working to get it fixed.
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I had the same happen to me when I delayed filing my taxes for 2010 (pure procrastination). I ended up filing 2010 and 2011 at the same time, both mailed in from Mexico. That's when I found out someone else had filed a 2010 return under my SS # from some address in Arizona (where I have never lived). They got a healthy refund from Uncle Sam. It did take me awhile to get it resolved, but I quickly realized that my location and the red tape was going to be a big issue, so I dumped it all in the lap of a Taxpayer Advocate. Highty recommend these people! I finally received my 2010 refund by early 2013 I think. I have also had to receive and use an IRS PIN # each and every year since. Do these ever expire? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
dixonge said:
I just logged in to test this - 1Password auto-filled in my id/pw *and* then also auto-filled in the 2-factor number. This was so nice! I was immediately taken to my main profile page.

I started using Login.gov months ago (10/23) and recently converted the wife's account as well. Generally smooth sailing for both.

I had the same happen to me when I delayed filing my taxes for 2010 (pure procrastination). I ended up filing 2010 and 2011 at the same time, both mailed in from Mexico. That's when I found out someone else had filed a 2010 return under my SS # from some address in Arizona (where I have never lived). They got a healthy refund from Uncle Sam. It did take me awhile to get it resolved, but I quickly realized that my location and the red tape was going to be a big issue, so I dumped it all in the lap of a Taxpayer Advocate. Highty recommend these people! I finally received my 2010 refund by early 2013 I think. I have also had to receive and use an IRS PIN # each and every year since. Do these ever expire? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Using IP PIN forever is a good practice. Many people get one even if never compromised.
 
jebmke said:
Using IP PIN forever is a good practice. Many people get one even if never compromised.
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I get that, but it's quite the pain to keep up with, especially when living outside the U.S. I usually receive it in January but have to keep track of it until April. But it's definitely a '1st world problem' lol
 
dixonge said:
I get that, but it's quite the pain to keep up with, especially when living outside the U.S. I usually receive it in January but have to keep track of it until April. But it's definitely a '1st world problem' lol
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No, there's no way to opt out of using an IRS filing PIN once you start. You can always retrieve it by logging in to irs.gov if you lose track of the letter they send in January. If all else fails, you can send in a paper return without the PIN, though it will take longer to process than an e-filed return.
 
dixonge said:
I get that, but it's quite the pain to keep up with, especially when living outside the U.S. I usually receive it in January but have to keep track of it until April. But it's definitely a '1st world problem' lol
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Just take a picture of it; all you need is the number
 
jebmke said:
Just take a picture of it; all you need is the number
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and then find that picture again four months later - that's the problem. I typically scan it and save it in my 'current year' folder under my Taxes folder...
 
dixonge said:
I get that, but it's quite the pain to keep up with, especially when living outside the U.S. I usually receive it in January but have to keep track of it until April. But it's definitely a '1st world problem' lol
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I live overseas and also require a new IRS PIN each year which I get online through my IRS account.

Instructions here:

Get An Identity Protection PIN | Internal Revenue Service

Get an Identity Protection PIN (IP PIN) to protect your tax account.
www.irs.gov www.irs.gov

Once it has been issued you can find it by logging into your account and selecting your profile.
 
Just created my login.gov id. Was pretty much painless since I already had an old SSA account. I've added the login.gov authenticator QR code to on my phone to my collection :popcorn:.
 
Rather than how to get into these fragile-as-the-screen-on-your-phone or where-did-I-put-my-codes methods, I want out.
All I use is mySSA.
All I need is my annual estimated future SS benefits letter/amount.
With a mySSA account, SSA no longer sends a snail mail annual estimate.
Is there a way to delete mySSA or otherwise revert back to the annual snail mail vs. dorking with ID.me or login.gov?
 
Spock said:
Rather than how to get into these fragile-as-the-screen-on-your-phone or where-did-I-put-my-codes methods, I want out.
All I use is mySSA.
All I need is my annual estimated future SS benefits letter/amount.
With a mySSA account, SSA no longer sends a snail mail annual estimate.
Is there a way to delete mySSA or otherwise revert back to the annual snail mail vs. dorking with ID.me or login.gov?
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I still get a letter with my benefits for next year so there must be. The best way to find out is to call your local SSA office; they will know for sure and may even deactivate your account for you. I had to use them to activate mine in the first place so my assumption is that they have the tools and know-how to do this.
 
Just set up the Login.id
Easy process.
 
While I have had an id.me account for a couple of years I decided that my wife should have one as well so this afternoon I helped her set one up. - Initially I tried to set up a login.gov account but it is impossible without a US address and phone number so id.me it had to be.

It was a bit tricky to navigate to the section for overseas customers who don't have things like a US mobile phone or US drivers licence etc, but we got there. We had to upload copies of our local utility bill showing her name with our UK address on it, a copy of her SS card, and a copy of the first page of her US passport. The id.me app was downloaded to her phone from the UK Apple Store which was a pleasant surprise. (switching to the US store is a real pain)

When I went through this a couple of years ago it was a 6 hour wait for a person to do a video call where he/she asks some identifying questions then asks for the passport and SS card to be held up to the camera so they can be viewed close up. For my wife today it was only 30 minutes.
 
Alan said:
While I have had an id.me account for a couple of years I decided that my wife should have one as well so this afternoon I helped her set one up. - Initially I tried to set up a login.gov account but it is impossible without a US address and phone number so id.me it had to be.

It was a bit tricky to navigate to the section for overseas customers who don't have things like a US mobile phone or US drivers licence etc, but we got there. We had to upload copies of our local utility bill showing her name with our UK address on it, a copy of her SS card, and a copy of the first page of her US passport. The id.me app was downloaded to her phone from the UK Apple Store which was a pleasant surprise. (switching to the US store is a real pain)

When I went through this a couple of years ago it was a 6 hour wait for a person to do a video call where he/she asks some identifying questions then asks for the passport and SS card to be held up to the camera so they can be viewed close up. For my wife today it was only 30 minutes.
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The wait for my video call was less than 1 minute, but I requested it very late in the day - around 11:30 pm Eastern Time. They are supposedly open 24x7, so I imagine the wait during the middle of the night is shorter. I was lucky that they accepted my Canadian driver's license along with my US passport and SS card.
 
tmm99 said:
The wait for my video call was less than 1 minute, but I requested it very late in the day - around 11:30 pm Eastern Time. They are supposedly open 24x7, so I imagine the wait during the middle of the night is shorter. I was lucky that they accepted my Canadian driver's license along with my US passport and SS card.
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Thinking about it I guess it was about 9am EST. (We are 5 hours ahead)
 
Healthy Lifestyle said:
I am getting confused, are you all setting up Login.gov or ID.me or both and or do you need one or the other?
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You only need one, and either one will work for mySSA. I have both because I work for the Feds, and so I had Login.gov for a long time, but needed ID.me for something else at some point.
 
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