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Guess I can't complain about my increases. Just received notice my $2m Amica policy is going up a bit over 5% this year. Last year it was up 7%.
Perhaps, and this is an assumption, but perhaps the data the insurance carriers are submitting to the insurance commissioners supports the rate increases?All our insurance has taken off. I guess my question would be: Where are the State Insurance watch dogs (regulators) in all of this? In theory, all premium increases must be "justified" to the watch dogs. It sounds like the watch dogs are simply signing off on all the increases.
I suppose that's possible. If so, it would nice for the regulators to present the data to the public.Perhaps, and this is an assumption, but perhaps the data the insurance carriers are submitting to the insurance commissioners supports the rate increases?
I'm assuming the increases would have to cover, at least, added costs due to tariffs and inflation and especially rising healthcare costs.Perhaps, and this is an assumption, but perhaps the data the insurance carriers are submitting to the insurance commissioners supports the rate increases?
If you search for "insurance rate filings" in your state you can find the info that the insurance company presents, in both application for rates (premiums) and policy documents. It's out there, will take some digging around, but it's there.I suppose that's possible. If so, it would nice for the regulators to present the data to the public.
I don't know about Tariffs but projected health care costs would factor into the equation, as does inflation. It costs tons of money to defend lawsuits and there has been a seismic shift in that regard. One of my clients, a personal injury attorney, joking complained once "this business used to be pretty easy, you could get a decent offer from the carrier, now you have to work for it."I'm assuming the increases would have to cover, at least, added costs due to tariffs and inflation and especially rising healthcare costs.
In theory, those should cause costs/rates to increase yearly, assuming the number of claims are the same year to year.
I don't know about Tariffs but projected health care costs would factor into the equation, as does inflation. It costs tons of money to defend lawsuits and there has been a seismic shift in that regard. One of my clients, a personal injury attorney, joking complained once "this business used to be pretty easy, you could get a decent offer from the carrier, now you have to work for it."
So, would UIM cover someone in your car suing you and the person who caused the accident was under-insured? I can't figure out how UIM actually works on an Umbrella policy.I dropped State Farm recently after 10 years, and I found out from my new agent that SF never did cover (or even offer) protection from underinsured motorists on my $2M umbrella policy. I thought umbrella meant umbrella. Yes, the auto insurance portion covers up to a bit, but not anywhere up to the umbrella limits. Apparently SF only covers liability up to $2M. When I switched to Auto Owners Group, the premium doubled to $600, but now I am actually covered for UIM.
That's a big assumption in Florida where any utility or insurance company seems to get any increase they request! But I know USAA isn't paying stockholders so I assume that the rates are bases on data. The USAA members payout this year took a bit of the sting out of my Umbrella policy increase. I get two annual disbursements because I've been with the company over 40 years.Perhaps, and this is an assumption, but perhaps the data the insurance carriers are submitting to the insurance commissioners supports the rate increases?
Think of UIM as buying liability insurance limits for what the guy that hurt you should have had in the first place. A simple answer is your UIM will cover you for your uninsured bodily injuries if the other person who caused the accident was under-insured. If someone in your car is suing you, you need healthy limits of BI (Bodily Injury) liability, topped by a healthy Umbrella. If the other driver is underinsured (UIM), your passenger is on their own for their injury.So, would UIM cover someone in your car suing you and the person who caused the accident was under-insured? I can't figure out how UIM actually works on an Umbrella policy.
If you don't mind, who is your insurer? I wonder if my percentage increase was so high because the actual dollar amount of the increase is relatively modest, about $350. You actually have a decrease for 2026-2027 is pretty amazing given what most people are experiencing...and you are in FL!We are in the free state of Florida....
Just got our renewal for our $3 million umbrella for April 2026....very pleased with a renewal that is 8.6% lower than last year.....not used to premiums dropping.
We are paying just over 600 for 2 million umbrella with two houses and two vehicles. I would suggest you check out the Costco insurance carrier.I received my $1,000,000 umbrella policy renewal (for April 2026) notification from USAA today. My annual premium for 1 house and 2 cars went from $299 to $665. I actually burst out laughing. A 122% increase when nothing has changed in our situation. We have the same vehicles, no additional vehicles, no additional dwellings, no tickets, no accidents, no claims on any insurance. Just one year older. And we live in Florida.
Has anyone else with umbrella coverage from USAA and/or in Florida seen such an enormous increase like this? I will call them on Monday and ask what is going on but I'm sure I'll get some generic response like, "Well, costs have increased." I'll see whether they have any other partners who write umbrella policies for them (they used to use RLI) but I'll probably have to shop it elsewhere. The increase just seems bizarre.
EDIT: Corrected price of renewal policy to $665 from $635.
If you don't mind, who is your insurer?
As an insurance agent, the rates on umbrellas are going thru the roof. My company will not write over 2M umbrella now. It has to go on open market. Too many lawsuits and lawyersI received my $1,000,000 umbrella policy renewal (for April 2026) notification from USAA today. My annual premium for 1 house and 2 cars went from $299 to $665. I actually burst out laughing. A 122% increase when nothing has changed in our situation. We have the same vehicles, no additional vehicles, no additional dwellings, no tickets, no accidents, no claims on any insurance. Just one year older. And we live in Florida.
Has anyone else with umbrella coverage from USAA and/or in Florida seen such an enormous increase like this? I will call them on Monday and ask what is going on but I'm sure I'll get some generic response like, "Well, costs have increased." I'll see whether they have any other partners who write umbrella policies for them (they used to use RLI) but I'll probably have to shop it elsewhere. The increase just seems bizarre.
EDIT: Corrected price of renewal policy to $665 from $635.
Well, yes, the prevalence of lawsuits and lawyers is why we've been purchasing an umbrella policy for years!As an insurance agent, the rates on umbrellas are going thru the roof. My company will not write over 2M umbrella now. It has to go on open market. Too many lawsuits and lawyers