Why do people wait so long to retire?

Have to work a certain amount of years to get my 100k pension and free medical, otherwise i was wanting to quit a while ago.
I was in that situation - although my numbers/medical weren't so generous. Oddly enough, when everything vested, I had found an assignment I enjoyed and stayed on for several years. Who would have thought it?

Do you have any option to w*rk less years for less pension/medical coverage?
 
I was in that situation - although my numbers/medical weren't so generous. Oddly enough, when everything vested, I had found an assignment I enjoyed and stayed on for several years. Who would have thought it?

Do you have any option to w*rk less years for less pension/medical coverage?
There is a formula for our pension. For me to get a full pension i have to work 25 years. Anything less than that the 3 multiplier will now be 2.5, also for every year less than 25, 5% reduction of pension for each year. Medical is all or nothing.
 
My husband is retired and once he left work, he never went back. He was asked to do some consulting and his response was “no thanks”.

I retired almost 3 years ago. Went back to work consulting. I work about 25 hours a month. I can basically work when I want and the salary I require. I am now doing all the great parts of my job and none of the crap parts. I am a mentor and building a program. I love it! Some of my hours are at home (prepping work), some in person and some done remotely.

In my mind, retiring is getting to choose what you want to do. I want to travel and we travel quite a bit (2024 I did 19 trips, ranging from weekends to 3 weeks). I want to work and am doing so. I want to be healthier, so go to the gym every weekday morning (I don’t work before 9:15 or so because I choose my hours)

Now, my daughter will be getting married and I anticipate a little one rather quickly after. If that happens, I’ll probably adjust my work. But that will be because there is something I want to do more. And that’s okay as well. Because I’ll still be choosing what I want to do.
 
My husband is retired and once he left work, he never went back. He was asked to do some consulting and his response was “no thanks”.

I retired almost 3 years ago. Went back to work consulting. I work about 25 hours a month. I can basically work when I want and the salary I require. I am now doing all the great parts of my job and none of the crap parts. I am a mentor and building a program. I love it! Some of my hours are at home (prepping work), some in person and some done remotely.

In my mind, retiring is getting to choose what you want to do. I want to travel and we travel quite a bit (2024 I did 19 trips, ranging from weekends to 3 weeks). I want to work and am doing so. I want to be healthier, so go to the gym every weekday morning (I don’t work before 9:15 or so because I choose my hours)

Now, my daughter will be getting married and I anticipate a little one rather quickly after. If that happens, I’ll probably adjust my work. But that will be because there is something I want to do more. And that’s okay as well. Because I’ll still be choosing what I want to do.
Sounds like you have the best of all worlds there! :)
 
This is definitely an interesting experience. My work was related to the design automation of semiconductor chips. It overlaps to AI in many aspects. I also did have a big paycheck and a feel of burning out with age. But this is where it stops. In the last 5-6 years of my career, I've been laid off three times. I managed to find a job the 1st and 2nd time, but decided to retire 3rd time when I was 56. There were absolutely no offers (even no contacts at all). I believe I did my job very well. There were some papers and other technical publications I made, as well as 10+ invention patents. Still, I feel like actually I did not even exist as a professional.
Yup - Tech is a brutal business with extreme ageism. Its just luck that I never got laid off in the thirty years I worked in software although I did come very close in 2009. From what my friends who are still working tell me, the current employment environment in software is the worst since the 2000 dot com crash.
 
My wife retired as early as possible, timed to our daughter finishing college, and the best I could have done was to retire one year earlier.
 
I think the biggest factor is that those with "enough money" are afraid to take the risk. And another group are those that are afraid they won't have enough to do and become bored, then depressed. Sometimes their spouses are afraid that too much together time will be challenging. Some actually like their jobs. Our neighbor admitted this last week after a glass of truth serum (wine)
 
I can't speak for anyone but uncertainty in the global economy would be a good reason to wait longer. Lots of folks on edge at the moment, for good reason.
 
Absolutely. Although maybe some will feel the opposite. I remember some of the old-timers where I worked in the late 90's. They often talked about which plane they were going to buy, which condo and where. After the dot com bust, they talked about 5 more years of work.

I took this lesson heart, and when I felt I had a reasonable chance of success, I pulled the plug at 52. Now I'm 64, sipping my first coffee, and pondering our next move - figuratively, financially, and emotionally 🙂
 
Absolutely. Although maybe some will feel the opposite. I remember some of the old-timers where I worked in the late 90's. They often talked about which plane they were going to buy, which condo and where. After the dot com bust, they talked about 5 more years of work.

I took this lesson heart, and when I felt I had a reasonable chance of success, I pulled the plug at 52. Now I'm 64, sipping my first coffee, and pondering our next move - figuratively, financially, and emotionally 🙂

Now 67, pulled the plug gradually, shifted from F/T to P/T at 51, pulled the plug completely at 58. Sipping coffee and having an english muffin. My next move will be to watch and do nothing. I have several friends 63 to 65 who I am pretty sure could have retired by now and are still working, current events might keep them working even longer. Some find it harder than others to leave the security of a steady paycheck and benefits. I put my greatest value on time, time while I have my health.
 
Sounds like me for sure, except the English Muffin 🤣🤣 we ate a lot on our cruise last week, so just enjoying not eating for a while. I may go back to work just to cover some pain. I went back for two, four-month contract jobs, several years back. To be honest, I don't think I'm capable of doing the 40 - 50 hour engineering gig anymore. I'm thinking a starter at a golf course or teaming up with my wife for a Rover job. We just picked up our PITA dog, and I handed her sitter $450 cash. Wow!
 
I didn't read all 7 pages of this thread, so I may have already posted here. Anyway, I had an epiphany when I was 40 years old or so, on vacation, sitting in a hot tub drinking a strawberry daiquiri. I actually said to myself, "yeah if I could do this the rest of my life I'd do it right now." Hot tubs and drinks are no longer my thing, but that episode gave me inspiration. I waited 'til age 60, when I was sure DW was happy to keep working so we had medical insurance. I still keep in touch with about a dozen of my college buds. Only 2 others ER'd; the rest continued mainly because they enjoyed what they did.
 
I remember some of the old-timers where I worked in the late 90's. They often talked about which plane they were going to buy, which condo and where. After the dot com bust, they talked about 5 more years of work.

Yep. SORR in action. Easy to be cavalier about it when markets are up. When the tide goes out, you see who's swimming without a suit. . .
 
Yep. SORR in action. Easy to be cavalier about it when markets are up. When the tide goes out, you see who's swimming without a suit. . .
Right, and it's not a pretty sight!

So far, I've found it easy to simply ignore. I haven't even looked at my numbers though I have a reasonable idea of what they are.
 
Yep. SORR in action. Easy to be cavalier about it when markets are up. When the tide goes out, you see who's swimming without a suit. . .
Eh, I'm on 6 1/2 acres, pretty secluded, so I'll confess sometimes a swim suit has been optional! 😜

As for sequence of returns, every time my birthday came up, one of my friends would say "Welp, you're not retired yet!!" (except for this most recent one, when I did announce my retirement). The reason my friend would do this is because he was under the impression that I once said I was going to retire on my 40th birthday.

What I actually said, early in 2000, was "if the stock market keeps up like this, I'll be able to retire when I'm 40!" Somehow I managed a 40% return in 1999. If, by some miracle, I kept up a 40% rate of return consistently every year, I probably WOULD have been able to retire in 2010, when I turned 40.

Well, as it turned out, I was down about 5% or so in 2000. Maybe another 30% in 2001 and perhaps 25% in 2002. 2003-07 was a good time, but then 2008 wiped that out and then some. I had recovered pretty nicely by the time I turned 40 in 2010, but nowhere NEAR ready to retire! Still, I said it as a joke, even though my friend took me seriously.
 
My wife was going to retire in a month but has decided to keep working, due to the fiasco and ucertainty that has been created with the economy. She is 65yo.
 
My wife was going to retire in a month but has decided to keep working, due to the fiasco and ucertainty that has been created with the economy. She is 65yo.
I can relate, though I've been on a work-less-play-more glidepath for maybe 10 years. I joined ER a year ago to learn how to finally transition into full retirement. The "fiasco and uncertainty" motivates me to continue working my present number of hours for the foreseeable future.

I haven't changed my high equity percentage allocation. I had been hoping to learn enough about fixed income investments and laddering to pull the trigger on something like that this year, but it seems now is not the time. How many like me have been taking the risk of nearing retirement with a high equity allocation in hope of hitting their number sooner and are now feeling like the rug has been pulled out from under them?
 
I will be 70yo next year and have been thinking of reducing my equity allocation but, now may put that off with the market down. My current allocation is 65/35, equities/(bonds+fixed). As I cross the 70yo threshold I had been planning to go more to 50/50 or 40/60, as preservation will become more important than growth for me.

We don't have a huge nest egg (1.5M in iIRA) so, don't have a lot of tolerance for market risks if we want avoid a Ramen-only diet in the future!
 
The current market uncertainty reminds me of why I "waited too long" to retire. My "wait" let me build a cash buffer so that, for times like these, we could still spend as we desired without being forced to sell equities during down times, and minimize any potential SORR impact. Having "too much' cash not earning a high return can help one sleep at night.

Even with the pandemic market plunge and this one, we are still way ahead of what we had when I retired. The wait was worth it :) . I will admit to using some of that"excess" cash to add a little bit to my equity holdings, could not help it 😂.
 
I was reading the info on the state’s teachers retirement plan (I was not a teacher or professor, but a lab rat). It indicated that, if I worked the full fall semester, I’d get credit for the full year.

Being 61 at the time, I was planning to retire the next year at 62, but knowing that, I wandered into my boss’s office, and announced I’d be retiring Dec. 31. Cashed out my vacation time, lived off my cash until SS and the pension checks started.

Woohoo!
 
Yup - Tech is a brutal business with extreme ageism. Its just luck that I never got laid off in the thirty years I worked in software although I did come very close in 2009. From what my friends who are still working tell me, the current employment environment in software is the worst since the 2000 dot com crash.
I w*rked in R&D fro a tech company, and for the first fifteen years or so, we were “layoff proof”. Until we weren’t.

Luckily, they went berserk, and then had to rehire, and I was fortunate enough, and dare I say good enough, that I was rehired, with a substantial raise.

Fast forward ten years, and our entire process development group were deemed unnecessary, thanks to Asian foundries…

However, with 25 years seniority, I was eligible for subsidized health insurance, which allowed me to RE at 61. Didn’t hurt that, due to being on a compressed schedule, I had amassed a significant vacation stash, plus 32 weeks severence.

Fell in a bucket of doodoo, and came out smelling like a rose.
 
Eh, I'm on 6 1/2 acres, pretty secluded, so I'll confess sometimes a swim suit has been optional! 😜

As for sequence of returns, every time my birthday came up, one of my friends would say "Welp, you're not retired yet!!" (except for this most recent one, when I did announce my retirement). The reason my friend would do this is because he was under the impression that I once said I was going to retire on my 40th birthday.

What I actually said, early in 2000, was "if the stock market keeps up like this, I'll be able to retire when I'm 40!" Somehow I managed a 40% return in 1999. If, by some miracle, I kept up a 40% rate of return consistently every year, I probably WOULD have been able to retire in 2010, when I turned 40.

Well, as it turned out, I was down about 5% or so in 2000. Maybe another 30% in 2001 and perhaps 25% in 2002. 2003-07 was a good time, but then 2008 wiped that out and then some. I had recovered pretty nicely by the time I turned 40 in 2010, but nowhere NEAR ready to retire! Still, I said it as a joke, even though my friend took me seriously.
Nah. He probably didn't take you seriously. He just found a good way to needle you. Heh, heh, friends are like that (sometimes.) :cool:
 
Have to work a certain amount of years to get my 100k pension and free medical, otherwise i was wanting to quit a while ago.
^ I was something like this - DW needed to work until 57 or so to get her full pension and retiree health insurance for both of us. So I worked a couple of years part time in order to retire only a few months before her.
 
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