"You Can Never Go Back" ... Just Tried Return to Work ... Mission Aborted

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TLDR: Once you have tasted sweet freedom, just continue to run with it...


I turn 52 this month, and my goal from a very early age was to "retire at 50." And I did. Working in sales, I saw many cautionary tales from older peers—guys who were haggard, sometimes broke, and generally not living great lives. Sales ages a person in dog years, as some here can confirm. The stress can be immense. I wanted none of that.

I saved and invested as much as I could in my early 20s and continued this bi-weekly discipline throughout my career; it, predictably, worked out better than expected. My "number" was always $3 million. When I got to 50, I had $4 million, a cushion that bolstered my confidence to step away from the grind.

Leaving corporate life was one of the great moments of my life. Mental clarity, which I figured was gone, returned. I lost ten pounds and reached my high school weight, which I figured was out of reach. We traveled, hiked, and visited friends all over the world. We had a blast. And yet, I had this persistent, gnawing feeling that I needed to return to the grind. This feeling persisted for all 18 months of early retirement. During this time, several companies from my old industry approached me to come back and help fuel their salesforce.

Like everyone else here, our portfolio over the last year and a half has become bloated to an extraordinary degree. We now stand at $5.5 million in investments.

I say this only to illustrate the insanity of my next decision. I told myself that "if the right opportunity arises, then I will take it on and make a game of it. We will spend every dime from the new venture, and I will be able to pick up right where I left off. It will provide a 'sense of purpose,' and I will be contributing to humanity again in some small way."

SO...I took a job in my old industry. A dear friend managed the team I joined. The job was pegged to be 3 ½ days a week and something 'easy, fun, and one I would enjoy.' It was day 2, sitting in a California training classroom, when I sensed I had made a grave mistake. Rather than walk away then, I completed a month of field training and confirmed that I could not do the job again. Up at 4:30 am, the long drives, the hotel rooms. Then long days in an operating room setting. I looked around and could not believe I had "crawled back into a box." In fact, I looked at people in the hospitals who were doing my old job, and I found it hard to believe that I actually performed it for 27 years. Such an odd feeling. I was totally and completely disconnected from that world and had a mental revolt against returning to it. The experiment lasted 5 weeks.

I suppose I say all of this to tell others wrestling with the "return to work" conundrum: relax, you have earned your early retirement. Create new habits, enjoy the non-traditional life you have created for yourself. I am going to, finally, take my own life advice since I knew this was the path all along.
 
Great story. I FIRED at 50 and once in a while had the itch to return, but I've resisted. Our age, years of service, type of work and numbers are very similar.

I understand sales and customer service. 30 years is more like 40 years or more.

Great advice, I will heed it.
 
Great story. I FIRED at 50 and once in a while had the itch to return, but I've resisted. Our age, years of service, type of work and numbers are very similar.

I understand sales and customer service. 30 years is more like 40 years or more.

Great advice, I will heed it.
Thanks. Keep up your resistance;)
 
Great views on both sides of the coin. I suspect the time not w*rking makes you remember the good feelings (not bad ones) and wanting to recreate them. Unfortunately the bad ones rear there ugly head if attempted.

I've tried a different path in leaving corporate @ 48 and starting a small biz & doing ~20-30 hrs / wk. It's still 90% enjoyable and I'll probably be winding down the next couple of years...
 
Great views on both sides of the coin. I suspect the time not w*rking makes you remember the good feelings (not bad ones) and wanting to recreate them. Unfortunately the bad ones rear there ugly head if attempted.

I've tried a different path in leaving corporate @ 48 and starting a small biz & doing ~20-30 hrs / wk. It's still 90% enjoyable and I'll probably be winding down the next couple of years...
Appreciate you sharing your perspective. I am totally open to having my own small biz.
The upfront investment is the piece that I really resist making. Friends have warned me off of franchise models.

The trick, for me, is to have something that I can run from anywhere in the world. We enjoy travel and would like to be able to do it while we are still rocking able bodies. Amazon is overrun with products but it is an angle I studied extensively while planning to escape corporate. Wish I had done it when I had very early plans for it, in hindsight.

Any added insights on what you took on is appreciated. Cheers.
 
I've had a few friends do this. When they go back, I tell them they failed retirement. When it doesn't work out, I welcome them back with open arms.
 
When I left, I was pretty sure I was done, even though I had offer(s) to go to work for others in related fields. Within a year they quit asking. Hard to believe it's been well over a decade now.
 
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Thanks for the "cautionary tale." I've never really been tempted to go back to w*rk. And, fortunately, no one ever offered me the opportunity.

Enjoy your retirement.
 
I can relate directly. DW and I left our 30 year careers at ages 54, using the Rule of 55 that I learned about right here. Our goals were semi-retirement, and we’ve done part time work enjoyably for years. I’m now 58.

The wrinkle is, in early 2023 I got worried about also helping support my mother, who’s in a retirement community and whose portfolio is mostly bonds. I wasn’t sleeping and starting to worry about money. Yuck! I decided the solution was to just get a job.

I asked for a full time consulting opportunity in my field with a respected firm that I worked for part time, which came with increased sales and sales pressure. After 11 months of phoning in a positive attitude, I found that I was just not motivated like the mid-career people who have no choice. At the same time, the increased earnings and some of our aggressive investments grew enough to provide a margin to hopefully help my mom for years to come.

I asked to return to part time, which I did on July 1. I’ll just exist on my current book plus whatever else walks in the door. I’m already so much happier!

Thanks for your honest story, and enjoy your life.
 
Appreciate you sharing your perspective. I am totally open to having my own small biz.
The upfront investment is the piece that I really resist making. Friends have warned me off of franchise models.

The trick, for me, is to have something that I can run from anywhere in the world. We enjoy travel and would like to be able to do it while we are still rocking able bodies. Amazon is overrun with products but it is an angle I studied extensively while planning to escape corporate. Wish I had done it when I had very early plans for it, in hindsight.

Any added insights on what you took on is appreciated. Cheers.
My jumping into it was initially influenced by DW wanting me to continue earning... No biggie. So I looked at a simple idea with not much additional overhead. When I say simple, something to keep me busy with the flexibility of traveling when DW either takes time off or biz trips.

Not super lucrative but nice pocket change & boost for SEP401K.

I operate from the 2 car garage constructing cabinetry and custom furniture. Already had lots of tools, so I've only added what I've really needed. I only work within a 5 mile radius and work off referrals now & never advertise. It's still going since 2018, so I guess it's working. If I busted my hump, I'd be easy 6 figures, but I don't want / need that. This also allows me to pick / choose the projects I want. This also has allowed me to build most of our furnishings vs paying high prices for junk. I just look for designs that are ridiculously expensive and copy the look.

I know people who have done the Amazon thing and seemingly successful with it, allowing Amazon to get rich off fulfillment & living outside the country. When you don't need much, it's hard for me to learn something completely foreign to me just for the sake of the money.
 
Thanks for sharing. I needed to hear this. I am 45, about to retire early and am feeling like it may be too early, like I will want to come back or something. It would be extremely hard to get back into a position like my current one if I retired and tried to come back. I won't need to work due to pension and savings, but I want to make sure I can create a full, rewarding life without it.
 
Thanks for sharing. I needed to hear this. I am 45, about to retire early and am feeling like it may be too early, like I will want to come back or something. It would be extremely hard to get back into a position like my current one if I retired and tried to come back. I won't need to work due to pension and savings, but I want to make sure I can create a full, rewarding life without it.
a lot of people say that you should have your next idea ironed out before cutting the cord ... maybe that works for some. it did not work for me. congrats on being in a sweet position.
 
Thank you for sharing your story. It did sound though, you could have gone back - had that been your preference. But, due to good planning, you had options (the FI was in place), and when you realized that this wasn't how you wanted to spend your precious time you walked. Good luck!
 
Thank you for sharing your story. It did sound though, you could have gone back - had that been your preference. But, due to good planning, you had options (the FI was in place), and when you realized that this wasn't how you wanted to spend your precious time you walked. Good luck!
If I had to continue then, absolutely, I would have. When I reconnected (AGAIN) with the fact that I was giving all of my time away for a meaningless amount of money then I quickly walked.
 
I went back a few times, on call, to train new nurse managers. Always for a set length of time and never more than 20 hours per week, two 10 hour days.
The last time was to be a part of the "new" covid vaccine clinics. Lasted one month and I realized I was finally "done". I have not been back since. I. am fine with that!
 
I went back a few times, on call, to train new nurse managers. Always for a set length of time and never more than 20 hours per week, two 10 hour days.
The last time was to be a part of the "new" covid vaccine clinics. Lasted one month and I realized I was finally "done". I have not been back since. I. am fine with that!
Congrats. Nursing is a tough, tough gig. Glad to hear you got out. Covid was a wild time. Saw lots of emergency facilities built. And never used. The news missed it!?
 
I retired about 3-1/2 years ago on a voluntary retirement program. The Monday after I left the company announced a merger (actually being bought) by a much larger company. We moved out of state. Fast forward and the acquiring company has an office about 15 minutes from our house. A former coworker had to come to town for business so we got together. He told the people in that office that if they need a top end engineer for support I was 15 minutes away. I told him thanks for the reference but no way. We enjoy doing what we want when we want. Even as a contract employee on special projects I don’t want to go back to work.
 
I'm still working at 67 and I like my job in software engineering, in general, at least 80% of it which is great. I plan to non-RE next year and I would never think of going back unless it was pro-bono for a good cause that I believed in. I'm preparing myself for that mindset now, many thanks to this forum.
 
Glad OP figure out that going back was a mistake so quickly. Everyone is different though and there's no "right" answer for all.

I went back to my old company on a part-time WFH basis, with full benefits a couple years ago. In the year I took off, I discovered that neither I nor my wife us enjoy travel all that much and solving problems at work had become my hobby. Only unlike most hobbies, they pay me to do it. So far, the stress level has been OK, I get to solve problems and interact with lots of smart people and my experience helps the team.
 
Haha
I absolutely LOVE this post!

I too retired at 50, with much less than you, but I also for 28 years was in the sales prison of angst so I so relate.
"Create new habits" Exactly! I'm now in my 8th year and I exercise more, read more , sleep better, eat better, am calmer, truly enjoy my mornings, better relationships, the list goes on and on. Last year or so I've just resigned to "living a life of leisure" and I cherish it! just had a delicious non rushed healthy meal at home and now on my way to an outdoor pool club I joined to relax, do a couple laps, read my book under an umbrella, and maybe get a nap in. Immensely grateful! Thank you for reminding me how awful that grind was!
 
My jumping into it was initially influenced by DW wanting me to continue earning... No biggie. So I looked at a simple idea with not much additional overhead. When I say simple, something to keep me busy with the flexibility of traveling when DW either takes time off or biz trips.

Not super lucrative but nice pocket change & boost for SEP401K.

I operate from the 2 car garage constructing cabinetry and custom furniture. Already had lots of tools, so I've only added what I've really needed. I only work within a 5 mile radius and work off referrals now & never advertise. It's still going since 2018, so I guess it's working. If I busted my hump, I'd be easy 6 figures, but I don't want / need that. This also allows me to pick / choose the projects I want. This also has allowed me to build most of our furnishings vs paying high prices for junk. I just look for designs that are ridiculously expensive and copy the look.

I know people who have done the Amazon thing and seemingly successful with it, allowing Amazon to get rich off fulfillment & living outside the country. When you don't need much, it's hard for me to learn something completely foreign to me just for the sake of the money.
Thanks for sharing. Cool story.
 
Haha
I absolutely LOVE this post!

I too retired at 50, with much less than you, but I also for 28 years was in the sales prison of angst so I so relate.
"Create new habits" Exactly! I'm now in my 8th year and I exercise more, read more , sleep better, eat better, am calmer, truly enjoy my mornings, better relationships, the list goes on and on. Last year or so I've just resigned to "living a life of leisure" and I cherish it! just had a delicious non rushed healthy meal at home and now on my way to an outdoor pool club I joined to relax, do a couple laps, read my book under an umbrella, and maybe get a nap in. Immensely grateful! Thank you for reminding me how awful that grind was!
Thanks for the kind words -- yes, the sales world can truly suck. It paid well for a reason. Congrats on getting the hell out.
 
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