Hello

claire · 03-16-2006, 01:11 PM

Just registered, this site is great. I am in full time employment, looking to ER in about 5 years time. I am 32. My personal view out of wage slavery has been to save up and live hopefully off the interest. I dont need much to live on at all really. It is reassuring to listen to people who share the same goal. I first realised something was very wrong about five years ago and started to suffer from depression etc. Know i know what that nagging feeling was, that the world had gone made, society, civilisation, capitilism the whole employment ethos was what was bothering me. Anyway I am rambling on, not sure anyone is interested, got a lot more to say. has anyone thought about living on a boat, or ER on a boat, im looking into it, i dont have megabucks to ER so i am looking at alternative living spaces, i dont need keep up with the jones' or impress, i dont need a 5 bedroom house with 3000 sq feet.. i know i am rambliing, but you are all such great listners. Lots of love, Claire xx

Cool Dood · 03-16-2006, 01:33 PM

Hey, don't blame society, civilization, capitalism -- they're what's going to save you!

Welcome aboard, and I think a few people here will have handy answers for your boat question....

claire · 03-16-2006, 01:36 PM

Thanks Cool Dude.

brewer12345 · 03-16-2006, 01:39 PM

Welcome, Claire.

I think there are lots of potential alternatives for living space. *You could look into a condo in an inexpensive area. *You could live on a boat (check out http://www.tendervittles.net/ ). *You could live in an RV (check out http://www.andybaird.com/travels/fulltime/index.html ). *You could also just rent a modest apartment. *There arre also "perpetual traveller" ERs (check out http://www.retireearlylifestyle.com/ ). *Lots of options...

claire · 03-16-2006, 01:43 PM

Thanks Brewer, will take a look at the links you've kindly supplied.

Coach · 03-16-2006, 04:09 PM

Welcome, Claire! You're among friends here.

Sam · 03-16-2006, 09:13 PM

For RV living on a budget, yet making decent money at the same time. Check this gentleman by the name of George out.

http://vagabonders-supreme.net

Sam

laurence · 03-17-2006, 12:53 AM

Welcome, I'm interested in hearing more details, how much do you anticipate having in 5 years and how much do you plan on withdrawing per year once you ER? From one rambler to another, please, speak and ramble as much as you please!

wildcat · 03-17-2006, 07:55 AM

Hey, another ER babe joins the forum. I am all for a little diversity

Welcome Claire.

brewer12345 · 03-17-2006, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Laurence

Welcome, I'm interested in hearing more details, how much do you anticipate having in 5 years and how much do you plan on withdrawing per year once you ER?* From one rambler to another, please, speak and ramble as much as you please!*

Hey, get back here Laurence! If I am stuck on the "daddy track" playing breadwinner, no way you are getting out!

Just kidding. Nothing wrong with indulging escapist fantasies.

**Martha** · 03-17-2006, 08:14 AM

Daddy track is just as scary as mommy track. All responsibility for income on one person's shoulders. No end in sight. Brewer and Laurence, you are good daddys.

brewer12345 · 03-17-2006, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Martha

All responsibility for income on one person's shoulders.* No end in sight.*

Thanks for rubbing it in, Martha. I'll have to think up some obligatory lawyer jokes now.

**Martha** · 03-17-2006, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by brewer12345

Thanks for rubbing it in, Martha. I'll have to think up some obligatory lawyer jokes now.

I guess that wasn't a very sympathetic post. Sooorrry.

But you guys are good daddies.

brewer12345 · 03-17-2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Martha

But you guys are good daddies.* *

I knew you were being complimentary, even without a smiley.

(way OT rant warning)

Dunno about the other fathers my age, but I have found a significant, lets say, cultural bias against fathers who are actively involved in their kids' lives. People are quick to criticize me for a perceived lack of involvement with my kids (like the total stranger who said "bad daddy" when I raced home to pick my daughter up at a library where my wife was giving a seminar and the sitter didn't show up). Then again, when I am with my kids many people act as if I am intruding on a private world where mothers and kids seem to be the only acceptable presence. I don't get this kind of flack from people my own age, so I suspect that it is a holdover from the days of father = breadwinner and mother = housewife.

It came as quite a shock in Puerto Rico to see how different things were. You saw more men pushing carriages than women, and when I was standing in line at a supermarket checkout, there was a magazine called "Padres y Hijos".

(rant mode off)

Nords · 03-17-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by brewer12345

Then again, when I am with my kids many people act as if I am intruding on a private world where mothers and kids seem to be the only acceptable presence.

Maybe they think you're just using your kid as bait to pick up chicks!

I learned very quickly to have my wedding ring on prominent display when the kid & I were out without spouse. Unless, of course, ... eh, never mind.

brewer12345 · 03-17-2006, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Nords

Maybe they think you're just using your kid as bait to pick up chicks!

Considering that I only shave when forced to and DW hounds me for abut a month before I will let go of a pair of ratty jeans, I doubt it.

laurence · 03-17-2006, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by brewer12345

Hey, get back here Laurence!* If I am stuck on the "daddy track" playing breadwinner, no way you are getting out!*

Just kidding.* Nothing wrong with indulging escapist fantasies.

LOL! Escapist fantasy is right! Plus, any tips on how to survive on that small of a portfolio will be very germane to our current, reduced income stream.

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Originally Posted by Martha

I guess that wasn't a very sympathetic post. Sooorrry.

But you guys are good daddies.

We try!

But many Dad's don't have the opportunity to be the sole breadwinner, the Mom's income is essential, I know I had to put up with a lot of holier than thou crap when we at first decided to stay two income after Tori was born, I don't want to be guilty of the same offense. Those of you who couldn't, I feel your pain and I know you are good Daddies, too!

I am nervous about being the only income stream, especially in light of recent announcements at work. But DW will still be consulting from home, and while that will only be a small income stream (but very useful), it will keep her skills current, in case I get canned experience some employment shortfalls...

Brewer, I hear you on the rant. I get such positive feedback on our decision, yet when I say, "hey, maybe DW's consulting business will take off and I can be a stay at home Dad!" I get either laughed off or even scolded! Weird.

brewer12345 · 03-17-2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Laurence

I am nervous about being the only income stream, especially in light of recent announcements at work.* But DW will still be consulting from home, and while that will only be a small income stream (but very useful), it will keep her skills current, in case I get canned experience some employment shortfalls...

No question that there is substantial pressure in playing breadwinner, but for folks like us I think its really not that bad. We are generally well-credentialled professionals whose skills are in demand and we have substantial financial resources at our disposal if we get canned. We also tend to LBYM and are pretty resourceful in adversity. Got a lot of advantages, really.

Once you see how it goes, youll get comfy with it, Laurence.

laurence · 03-17-2006, 11:15 AM

True, this site has been a big help for me, too. I haven't given enough credit, really. In the year since I've been here, we've begun to truly understand and live LBYM, and we've stockpiled enough assets that we could both be out of work for six months without seriously harming our financial picture. I can't even imagine living paycheck to paycheck.

Does DW greet you at the door with a Martini? I could get comfy with that real quick!

03-16-2006, 01:11 PM	#1
claire Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 91	Hello Just registered, this site is great. I am in full time employment, looking to ER in about 5 years time. I am 32. My personal view out of wage slavery has been to save up and live hopefully off the interest. I dont need much to live on at all really. It is reassuring to listen to people who share the same goal. I first realised something was very wrong about five years ago and started to suffer from depression etc. Know i know what that nagging feeling was, that the world had gone made, society, civilisation, capitilism the whole employment ethos was what was bothering me. Anyway I am rambling on, not sure anyone is interested, got a lot more to say. has anyone thought about living on a boat, or ER on a boat, im looking into it, i dont have megabucks to ER so i am looking at alternative living spaces, i dont need keep up with the jones' or impress, i dont need a 5 bedroom house with 3000 sq feet.. i know i am rambliing, but you are all such great listners. Lots of love, Claire xx

03-16-2006, 01:33 PM	#2
Cool Dood Full time employment: Posting here. Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 784	Re: Hello Hey, don't blame society, civilization, capitalism -- they're what's going to save you! Welcome aboard, and I think a few people here will have handy answers for your boat question....

03-16-2006, 01:36 PM	#3
claire Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 91	Re: Hello Thanks Cool Dude.

03-16-2006, 01:39 PM	#4
brewer12345 Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ... Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,358	Re: Hello Welcome, Claire. I think there are lots of potential alternatives for living space. You could look into a condo in an inexpensive area. You could live on a boat (check out http://www.tendervittles.net/ ). You could live in an RV (check out http://www.andybaird.com/travels/fulltime/index.html ). You could also just rent a modest apartment. There arre also "perpetual traveller" ERs (check out http://www.retireearlylifestyle.com/ ). Lots of options... __________________ “When you realize that you are one of the rare few who observe moral principles in their relationships with others, there is a temptation to sink into amorality, not out of conviction or pleasure but simply to avoid further pain, because there is no greater suffering than being an angel in hell, whereas a devil feels at home wherever he goes.” – Martin Page, How I Became Stupid

03-16-2006, 01:43 PM	#5
claire Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 91	Re: Hello Thanks Brewer, will take a look at the links you've kindly supplied.

03-16-2006, 04:09 PM	#6
Coach Full time employment: Posting here. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 701	Re: Hello Welcome, Claire! You're among friends here.

03-16-2006, 09:13 PM	#7
Sam Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,743	Re: Hello For RV living on a budget, yet making decent money at the same time. Check this gentleman by the name of George out. http://vagabonders-supreme.net Sam

03-17-2006, 12:53 AM	#8
laurence Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,816	Re: Hello Welcome, I'm interested in hearing more details, how much do you anticipate having in 5 years and how much do you plan on withdrawing per year once you ER? From one rambler to another, please, speak and ramble as much as you please!

03-17-2006, 07:55 AM	#9
wildcat Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,905	Re: Hello Hey, another ER babe joins the forum. I am all for a little diversity Welcome Claire. __________________ "These walls are kind of funny. First you hate 'em, then you get used to 'em. Enough time passes, gets so you depend on them"

03-17-2006, 08:14 AM	#11
Martha Administrator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: minnesota Posts: 10,048	Re: Hello Daddy track is just as scary as mommy track. All responsibility for income on one person's shoulders. No end in sight. Brewer and Laurence, you are good daddys. __________________ . Do not rely on the information provided--my posts are not to be taken as legal advice. Needless to say you must consult with your legal representative. I am not responsible for errors. If I offended you with cya I apologize. If I did not, I tried.

03-17-2006, 11:15 AM	#19
laurence Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,816	Re: Hello True, this site has been a big help for me, too. I haven't given enough credit, really. In the year since I've been here, we've begun to truly understand and live LBYM, and we've stockpiled enough assets that we could both be out of work for six months without seriously harming our financial picture. I can't even imagine living paycheck to paycheck. Does DW greet you at the door with a Martini? I could get comfy with that real quick!