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Old 07-06-2007, 07:49 PM   #1
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Wow guys, I don't see how some of you held on working the long hours for so many years. Mega corp life blows big time!

I have been working around 70+ hours a week and I feel like I am at work all the friggin' time. Funny thing is, I feel less and less productive after the 9 hour a day mark. I even work on Saturdays now woo hoo!

I wake up every day and it's the same thing over and over again. I feel like I am living the "Office Space" movie.

Am I going to get burned out or what? I certainly don't get paid enough for the amount of time I am there.
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Extra crispy, here. In part, you toughen up and get used to it after a while. But it never really stops sucking. By friday most weeks, I am pretty useless since I am just plain beat. If I am not FIREd by 40, I will be dowshifting to some other occupation that is less taxing.
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Wow, that's a crazy schedule. I liked to whine about my 50 hour weeks (on average, 45 most weeks then ramps up to 60 on a periodic basis) but I'll just shut up. I'm surprised your company(ies?) haven't wised up to the risk of losing highly skilled employees. In the last 2 years my company has made some changes to help retention, including the 9/80 schedule.

But I'm guessing you guys pull down serious jack, too. At my work 100k is about the best you can hope for after about 5 years working there without breaking into lead/supervisor/manager positions, or working crazy overtime (they pay overtime to all engineers, but it's just straight time, not 1.5). I'm only going to be a little north of 80k this year, and hoping my promotion goes through by the end and puts me a little north of 90k.
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I pretty much worked 60 hours a week at my last job. When I started as one of the lead architects on the company's e-commerce website, it inched to about 70-80 for a year and a half. For the last 3-4 months, most weeks were 100-110 hours.

About the time I was ordered to go to the ER to see if I was just stressed out or having a heart attack, I figured it was time for a new job. I took a 25% pay cut initially, but went down to working a fairly strict 40.

I now work 40 at that job and 15-30 on a side job... the hours are pretty decent when you can spread them around and not have them come with any stress.
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Yeah, you will. I have worked overtime and it gets old...but at least I got extra money...I dont care for the extra money anymore...your time gets to be too valuable as your investments grow...
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Any of you know if its the weekend yet? I know its not sunday, the paper isnt thick enough...
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Wow guys, I don't see how some of you held on working the long hours for so many years. Mega corp life blows big time!

I have been working around 70+ hours a week and I feel like I am at work all the friggin' time. Funny thing is, I feel less and less productive after the 9 hour a day mark. I even work on Saturdays now woo hoo!

I wake up every day and it's the same thing over and over again. I feel like I am living the "Office Space" movie.

Am I going to get burned out or what? I certainly don't get paid enough for the amount of time I am there.

Yes... you will wise up some day... but 70plus is insane... (but, I did 100+ for a few weeks... was a tax accountant... left after that year...)
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In my last job, the first 3 years I was there, we were required to work every Saturday until 1:00pm. Now that sucked. Could never go out of town for the weekend unless you took a vacation day. When my boss hired me, he told me he planned to retire in 2 years. That was the only reason I hung on. Two years extended to 8 years. After the 3rd year, I just told him I'm not working every Saturday but I would come in an hour early every day during the week. Did that for about 2 weeks and he never noticed when I stopped.

I guess it paid to play ball as long as I did. Enabled me to keep a good paying job and retire at a fairly young age.(If 52 is young)

"I wake up every day and it's the same thing over and over again."

Now the above statement is the clincher for a boring career. Hard to find a job that doesn't have some of this though. I hope you have better luck in the future.
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Any of you know if its the weekend yet? I know its not sunday, the paper isnt thick enough...
I was going to check for you, but looks like I still have the June calendar page up. Sorry.
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You guys are cruel!

The problem with jobs like these is not only are they a grind down, they suck so much life force out of you that updating the resume is too much effort, much less interviewing well. In situations like these, I find have a "goal date" for change helps a lot. Even a minor change for the better. But I found that vacations don't really help with situations like this, sometimes it only makes it worse. $$ is good but health is much better! How long do you plan on working at this company? With compounding, you don't gain a lot more for retirement towards the back end of the career, could you switch to something less lucrative in 2-5 years and let the portfolio compound on it's own?
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laurence --

Good to hear from you again. Hope you are doing well. BTW, if I lived in San Diego, I might have to do the 4 hour work week:
Amazon.com: The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich: Books: Timothy Ferriss

For all of you ERs rubbing it in, you suck!
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Any of you know if its the weekend yet? I know its not sunday, the paper isnt thick enough...
And we know this by the bruise that is left from the rolled up newspaper....?
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The problem with jobs like these is not only are they a grind down, they suck so much life force out of you that updating the resume is too much effort, much less interviewing well.
Very well said!
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(they pay overtime to all engineers, but it's just straight time, not 1.5)

If you live in the US, I think this violates federal law. If you're non-exempt, you have to be paid at least time and a half for hours beyond 40 in a week. I'd be curious to know how your employer gets around that rule; I'm sure they're aware of it...

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And we know this by the bruise that is left from the rolled up newspaper....?
Its cool, I figured it out. Thin paper, everyones car is in the driveway, lots of kids at the park, stores are jammed...must be saturday.
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If you live in the US, I think this violates federal law. If you're non-exempt, you have to be paid at least time and a half for hours beyond 40 in a week. I'd be curious to know how your employer gets around that rule; I'm sure they're aware of it...

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He's probably salaried exempt with a 'perk' being that additional hours worked can be cashed out at his nominal salary.

One consulting company I worked at was very similar. You were salaried, but every billable hour over 40 could be banked and then used as vacation time or cashed out.
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I can relate to the hing number of hours. I have decided that I am no longer going to put in high numbers of hours. From now on my target is 40 hrs/wk. I might have to put in a few extra from time to time... but I have no intention of working huge numbers of hours anymore.


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Any of you know if its the weekend yet? I know its not sunday, the paper isnt thick enough...
Forget if is Sat or Sun; the worst are these national holidays are a pain to remember.
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Fat paper today with lots of ads. Must be sunday.
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