Ok. This subject has probably been exhausted. However I just want to rant. My 22 year old daughter lives at home, pays no bills. I pay her health insurance. Paid for the 2009 car she drives. Pay for her medical prescriptions, food at home. Everything but her phone and spending. She quit college last year. Paid for that. She works 6 days a week. (One plus). She is a great gal. Won't take responsibility though. Ok... Just got a bill for her car repairs (relative is a mechanic). She REFUSES to pay half!!!!
I am done. What to do
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Caveat: My kids are VERY young and I am very skeptical about giving or taking parenting advice because the situations are so nuanced and so individual. That said... you did ask nicely.
I disagree with the sentiment expressed by some people that you should "cut the cord." I think you have to look at yourself and your actions and figure out how and to what degree you are responsible, what you want for your kids, what they want and how you can truly help them achieve that.
MAYBE cutting her off cold turkey is the right thing, but I don't think that should be a quick conversation where you say "Look, I've taken care of you and coddled you long enough. It ends today. Lots of luck." Honestly, I don't think you will be able to do that anyway, she'll get mad, go away for a week or a month, then come back with a sob story and you'll crumble
. I suspect this is how I would act. My daughter is 2.5 and she already tries to manipulate me... can't even imagine after 20 years
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So... I would use a different tactic. I would sit her down and tell her that you love her and want to see her happy and successful and see if you can get a sense of how she really feels? What she wants out of life? Then I think you should tell her how you feel. Tell her your position, show her the numbers, make her sit in your shoes and see how she reacts.
If she blows that off and doesn't even want to engage, then maybe you just cut it off. If she doesn't, then I think you can both take meaningful and moderate steps towards her financial responsibility and independence.
Frist... she has a job. Great! Today is rent and bill pay day. Take your mortgage and bills divide them along some fair metric and that's where her pay goes. Show her the numbers, your bank account... see what she thinks is fair as well. THEN, introduce her to the wonders of FIRE, take 10% (or whatever) and show her how savings work, compounding, etc. Show her firecalc, investment projections and all those cool visualization tools. Then I think you should both go out with a small set amount of money and have a nice dinner/lunch or something.
Next I would try to create some goals. You want her out of the house, you don't want to pay for her car. What's the plan for selling YOUR car that she uses to her? what's the plan for her living outside (renting, buying, etc). What's the savings plan?
If you can't do this alone, get a trusted intermediary and every month go over these things. I myself am a huge progress person, if I can't see the progress, it's super hard to see changes. Over a few months maybe she'll actually get excited and pick up ownership herself. Now you don't have a future liability coming home after 6 months crying for help
She has a job, she earns money. That's better than a great number of people! She has a supportive parent. Also a huge benefit! It sounds like you may have not taught her about practical self-reliance yet you have it which means you can probably pass it on.
So teach her
. If she's not a willing student, then it might be time for the school of hard knocks, but I also think you should leave the door open... not to come back for sympathy and handouts, but for education. If it's an FU situation and she storms out... and comes back in a month or two then you can ask "ok, are you ready to work with me to learn how you can do this better?" and if she storms away, I'd keep that hard line. That will be very hard I imagine.
If you don't do this, she may teach her kids the same thing and potentially end up with a guy that she thinks loves her because he gives her what she wants, instead of someone who respects her for who she is... that is actually one of my biggest fears for my daughter
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Easy for me to say.. all I have to do is deal with diapers and temper tantrums. Also I'm no expert on any of this either from education or experience so I might be totally wrong... it's just kind of what "makes sense" to me?
Good Luck!