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Old 02-14-2014, 03:44 PM   #61
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"Most everybody does it"

This one drives me crazy. In the past few years even educated, non-shlubbs have started using it as if it were actual English that expresses an idea.

It's either "ALMOST everybody does it" or "MOST people do it.
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If I recall correctly, one of the errors in the first Hubble mirror was caused my a miscalculation when switching between inch/metric scale.
In the metal shop standard tolerances are .1mm, .001", and 1/64" for working stock in the US.
Most here would have no trouble deciding if 13/64ths is >/< 1/2". It gets a little more difficult when the spec calls for 13.3mm OD. Can I start with 1/2'' stock or do I need 17/32"? etc...
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Whenever I read a thread like this, I always want to kindly remind participants to this forum that some posters - including myself - are not English native speakers. Therefore please be patient with us. I do my best when I post but mistakes and typos sometimes do happen, even with the auto-correct function turned on with the iPad.

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Tech types back at MegaCorp (including my boss) couldn't bring themselves to use "you are" or the contraction "you're." It was always "your."

I'd email "we need that project completed by Friday." They'd email "your not going to get it." I'd reply "did you mean 'you're'?" They'd reply "your nuts!"

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including myself
Including me.

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But people say "myself included", not "me included", correct?
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Including me.

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Whenever I read a thread like this, I always want to kindly remind participants to this forum that some posters - including myself - are not English native speakers. Therefore please be patient with us. I do my best when I post but mistakes and typos sometimes do happen, even with the auto-correct function turned on with the iPad.

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"Most everybody does it"

This one drives me crazy. In the past few years even educated, non-shlubbs have started using it as if it were actual English that expresses an idea.

It's either "ALMOST everybody does it" or "MOST people do it.
The version I often hear is "Most everyone does it." If enough people adopt it in their everyday use of the language (both written and spoken) it will become an accepted usage. Perhaps it already has? It hadn't even occurred to me before you mentioned it.
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But people say "myself included", not "me included", correct?
Personally I'd say "Including me"....... 'myself', for whatever reason, (perhaps as part of the everybody-gets-a-prize philosophy which attempts to downplay the individual), has insinuated itself into 'popular culture' to a point where you'll hear people on the radio saying "Call myself at......"

(But, hey, I'm basically an autodidact, what do I know?)

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If enough people adopt it in their everyday use of the language (both written and spoken) it will become an accepted usage. Perhaps it already has?
I think an example of that is the very proper "Hold your horses. I only have two hands!" Grammatically it should be "I have only two hands. But the first was is the way most everyone says it.
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I think an example of that is the very proper "Hold your horses. I only have two hands!" Grammatically it should be "I have only two hands. But the first was is the way most everyone says it.
This could get weird. There was a song first out in the '30s, "I Only Have Eyes For You". This was later done by the Flamingos and was in the American Graffiti soundtrack. So say he changed it to "I have eyes only for you". What would he be saying? His Honey can have sole possession of his eyes, but he isn't promising anything about all those other organs?

Sounds like less than a wonderful deal for her.

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I believe that the phrase "I have eyes for you only" would offer her more comfort.
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So here's a punctuation question for the group:


What is the proper way to use a colon, as I did above, if it is also a question?

Example:

Where could I find examples of the following?:

< list of stuff>
So it's a question, but it also seems to need the colon to show that it leads into the following list. But ":?" or "?:" or "? :" looks awkward. But maybe it is correct that way?


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So here's a punctuation question for the group:

What is the proper way to use a colon...
I gave up on that question long ago - couldn't figure it out even after undergoing a colonoscopy.
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So here's a punctuation question for the group:


What is the proper way to use a colon, as I did above, if it is also a question?

Example:

Where could I find examples of the following?:

< list of stuff>
So it's a question, but it also seems to need the colon to show that it leads into the following list. But ":?" or "?:" or "? :" looks awkward. But maybe it is correct that way?


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I think that if you use a question mark you should dispense with the colon.
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I think that if you use a question mark you should dispense with the colon.
A quick search shows that some hold that opinion, but it wasn't universal. But I'd say it works. Another suggestion, one that I tend to follow when I hit questionable punctuation/grammar situations: reword it to avoid the problem altogether!

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I gave up on that question long ago - couldn't figure it out even after undergoing a colonoscopy.
Try punctuation H, that should clear things right up.
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Try punctuation H, that should clear things right up.
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