ERD50
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I keep seeing others referencing Linux, so I thought maybe it would be worth its own thread. Here's my (OK, not so) little story, and a note on what I might be able to learn from others here:
Back in April 2009, we were planning a little vacation and I thought a netbook would be handy. At the time, the Apple offerings were ~ $1500 IIRC, far more than I wanted to spend.
GETTING STARTED: I found an ASUS PC901 on Amazon for $289, if you got the Linux version they included a larger SS Drive (16GB versus 4, 8? GB for the Windows version). So I thought I'd give Linux a try. It came pre-installed with Xandros Linux , which at first seemed great (booted fast, found my network right away, I was browsing in no time), but within a few days, the issues that I had read a bit about were hitting hard time (Xandros was pretty 'locked down', I couldn't delete a bunch of apps I didn't use, updates were eating up all the 4GB system SSD, etc). Based on a lot of posts on the unit, I bit the bullet and decided to install a Ubuntu derivative, EEEbuntu (NetBook Remix 8.04). According to my notes, this was simple, and I had web browsing, printing all working in no time (with no previous Linux experience, and just a tiny bit of familiarity with Unix, but just using the DOS-like commands to look around the directory, and write little cron scripts and such).
It looks like I upgraded that little ASUS netbook to 9.04 and then 10.04 (which it is still on - I mostly use it as a music player, and a few other tasks - if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and I'm unsure if newer releases will fit in 4GB, but they probably will). I was pretty amazed at all the stuff I can do on that little thing with a 4GB system disc, and 1GB RAM and a tiny ATOM processor. I have GIMP, SketchUp 3D drawing program, Audacity sound editor, browsers, email, SKYPE, TeamViewer (desktop sharing program), OpenOffice, photo manager, WINE, and a bunch more.
It has served me well, and I also took it with me when I went to Budapest in 2011. Browsing, using email and SKYPE-ing home, managing my photos, tracking our expenses, writing a diary as we went.
NEXT STEPS: I was so impressed with how easy it was to use and install Linux/UBUNTU, that when my 2005 iMac died in 2010, I decided to go with Linux/Ubuntu for my everyday machine. I bought a pretty inexpensive, rather stripped down laptop, in case I wasn't happy I wouldn't be out much (15" EMachines E725, $378 - no webcam, no bluetooth) . Long story short, no regrets. But we do have DW's MacBook Pro as a 'back up', in case there is something I just can't do within Linux (almost never - hmmmm, I think the TomTom HOME GPS app only runs in Mac/Windows, and not under WINE - that's about it I think). Later, I updated that to 12.04 Xubuntu, as I preferred the XFCE interface to what they were doing with Ubuntu and Unity.
I really like how I have easily customized my desktop to work the way I like. Later, I may put up a video to show how easy it is to get to menus, customize them the way you like, and the different virtual desktops (workspaces).
CURRENTLY: I decided to buy a new laptop when 14.04 came out, since my E725 was pretty low-end to begin with, and I could use it as a 'spare' for experimenting and stuff. So I got a Lenovo 17", G710 for $570, reasonably well equipped, but I just bought 8GB memory for ~ $67 to go from 6GB to 12GB (give up one 2GB module). I keep LOTS of open windows/tabs in browsers, so memory goes quickly for me.
For 14.04, I just kept Windows on it (though I have done almost nothing with it), and installed Xubuntu alongside it. I can choose to boot/reboot into Windows at any time.
Not sure what to add, other than to say it really is not hard to try Linux out for yourself. Yes, I'm a tech type, but I honestly don't know all that much about computers. I never did DOS, my home computers were mostly Macs, so you don't really do all that much 'under the hood' stuff on those, and when we used Windows at work, the IT guys were in control. So I'm probably less familiar with a lot of the geeky computer stuff than most techy types. BIOS and anything like that has me googling.
Oh, and you don't really need to do much with the terminal and command lines. I was initially confused why in the troubleshooting forums, people were always throwing around terminal commands when there was a very simple point and click way to do the same thing. Then the light bulb went off (on?)! It takes a lot of writing to try to tell somebody "Pull down such and such menu, go to such and such tab, now click 'Options' in the lower right corner, see that little box marked 'bla-bla'? No? Oh, you are one version behind, they moved that box, so... (start over)" . But, the terminal commands are much more stable, and one only has to copy/paste a line or two to do the same thing. So it's just handy, that's all. If you are comfortable in the terminal, you can do a lot w/o having to find a program that fits the bill, but that's mostly a preference for most tasks.
BTW, I'm forced to use the terminal in Mac OSX more than I might in Linux - heck, just to show hidden files now (which I had to do recently while troubleshooting on the Mac), I had to go into the terminal, turn hidden on/off, and restart the Finder for every change. That is simply CNTRL-H in Ubuntu/Linux.
I'd be interested in hearing other stories about using Linux (good and bad). Also, when I switched to the Xubuntu variant, I tested out a few others, Mint, Cinnamon come to mind. They seemed a bit half-baked, so I went with the more main-stream Xubuntu. I've been happy with it, but wonder if I'm missing anything with the other variants? I now have the E725 to 'play with', so loading alternate releases is easy since I don't tie up my main machine.
Whew! Let's hear from you now! - ERD50
Back in April 2009, we were planning a little vacation and I thought a netbook would be handy. At the time, the Apple offerings were ~ $1500 IIRC, far more than I wanted to spend.
GETTING STARTED: I found an ASUS PC901 on Amazon for $289, if you got the Linux version they included a larger SS Drive (16GB versus 4, 8? GB for the Windows version). So I thought I'd give Linux a try. It came pre-installed with Xandros Linux , which at first seemed great (booted fast, found my network right away, I was browsing in no time), but within a few days, the issues that I had read a bit about were hitting hard time (Xandros was pretty 'locked down', I couldn't delete a bunch of apps I didn't use, updates were eating up all the 4GB system SSD, etc). Based on a lot of posts on the unit, I bit the bullet and decided to install a Ubuntu derivative, EEEbuntu (NetBook Remix 8.04). According to my notes, this was simple, and I had web browsing, printing all working in no time (with no previous Linux experience, and just a tiny bit of familiarity with Unix, but just using the DOS-like commands to look around the directory, and write little cron scripts and such).
It looks like I upgraded that little ASUS netbook to 9.04 and then 10.04 (which it is still on - I mostly use it as a music player, and a few other tasks - if it ain't broke, don't fix it, and I'm unsure if newer releases will fit in 4GB, but they probably will). I was pretty amazed at all the stuff I can do on that little thing with a 4GB system disc, and 1GB RAM and a tiny ATOM processor. I have GIMP, SketchUp 3D drawing program, Audacity sound editor, browsers, email, SKYPE, TeamViewer (desktop sharing program), OpenOffice, photo manager, WINE, and a bunch more.
It has served me well, and I also took it with me when I went to Budapest in 2011. Browsing, using email and SKYPE-ing home, managing my photos, tracking our expenses, writing a diary as we went.
NEXT STEPS: I was so impressed with how easy it was to use and install Linux/UBUNTU, that when my 2005 iMac died in 2010, I decided to go with Linux/Ubuntu for my everyday machine. I bought a pretty inexpensive, rather stripped down laptop, in case I wasn't happy I wouldn't be out much (15" EMachines E725, $378 - no webcam, no bluetooth) . Long story short, no regrets. But we do have DW's MacBook Pro as a 'back up', in case there is something I just can't do within Linux (almost never - hmmmm, I think the TomTom HOME GPS app only runs in Mac/Windows, and not under WINE - that's about it I think). Later, I updated that to 12.04 Xubuntu, as I preferred the XFCE interface to what they were doing with Ubuntu and Unity.
I really like how I have easily customized my desktop to work the way I like. Later, I may put up a video to show how easy it is to get to menus, customize them the way you like, and the different virtual desktops (workspaces).
CURRENTLY: I decided to buy a new laptop when 14.04 came out, since my E725 was pretty low-end to begin with, and I could use it as a 'spare' for experimenting and stuff. So I got a Lenovo 17", G710 for $570, reasonably well equipped, but I just bought 8GB memory for ~ $67 to go from 6GB to 12GB (give up one 2GB module). I keep LOTS of open windows/tabs in browsers, so memory goes quickly for me.
For 14.04, I just kept Windows on it (though I have done almost nothing with it), and installed Xubuntu alongside it. I can choose to boot/reboot into Windows at any time.
Not sure what to add, other than to say it really is not hard to try Linux out for yourself. Yes, I'm a tech type, but I honestly don't know all that much about computers. I never did DOS, my home computers were mostly Macs, so you don't really do all that much 'under the hood' stuff on those, and when we used Windows at work, the IT guys were in control. So I'm probably less familiar with a lot of the geeky computer stuff than most techy types. BIOS and anything like that has me googling.
Oh, and you don't really need to do much with the terminal and command lines. I was initially confused why in the troubleshooting forums, people were always throwing around terminal commands when there was a very simple point and click way to do the same thing. Then the light bulb went off (on?)! It takes a lot of writing to try to tell somebody "Pull down such and such menu, go to such and such tab, now click 'Options' in the lower right corner, see that little box marked 'bla-bla'? No? Oh, you are one version behind, they moved that box, so... (start over)" . But, the terminal commands are much more stable, and one only has to copy/paste a line or two to do the same thing. So it's just handy, that's all. If you are comfortable in the terminal, you can do a lot w/o having to find a program that fits the bill, but that's mostly a preference for most tasks.
BTW, I'm forced to use the terminal in Mac OSX more than I might in Linux - heck, just to show hidden files now (which I had to do recently while troubleshooting on the Mac), I had to go into the terminal, turn hidden on/off, and restart the Finder for every change. That is simply CNTRL-H in Ubuntu/Linux.
I'd be interested in hearing other stories about using Linux (good and bad). Also, when I switched to the Xubuntu variant, I tested out a few others, Mint, Cinnamon come to mind. They seemed a bit half-baked, so I went with the more main-stream Xubuntu. I've been happy with it, but wonder if I'm missing anything with the other variants? I now have the E725 to 'play with', so loading alternate releases is easy since I don't tie up my main machine.
Whew! Let's hear from you now! - ERD50
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