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Old 04-22-2016, 07:20 PM   #41
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Then the above started to happen and now it seems they are tightening the reigns again due to DEA crackdown not only on prescribers but pharmacies that unquestioningly fill any large quantity opiates
. . . And this crackdown on prescription opiates has reduced their availability on the black market, driven up street prices, and resulted in the much wider use of heroin by opiate addicts (as a now-cheaper and more widely available alternative to stolen/black-market prescription opiates). The use of heroin of widely varying strength and cut with fentanyl and God-knows-what other poisons, is resulting in an epidemic of OD deaths.
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He was a great talent. I grew up in Niagara and was a couple years younger than Denise Matthews who met Prince in 1980 and became Vanity. She was part of the group Vanity 6 and sang many of his songs. Coincidentally, she died February 16 this year at age 57.
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We'll get the full story eventually. This is not necessarily a "rock star OD". This can happen to anyone. It really can.

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+1. If this is the cause of his death, I hope that after the celebration (rightfully so) of his life and music, that the public eye doesn't forget just how lethal the opioids can be.

When hearing the news, my first thought was so young at 57. Then hearing that he was on pain medication for hip pain, my first thought was probably overdose (accidental or overuse). Sad.
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The link shows a disturbing trend with OD deaths from opioid and herion use. It is very sad.

"The U.S. government does not track death rates for every drug. However, the*National Center for Health Statistics*at the*Centers for Disease Control and Prevention*does collect information on many of the more commonly used drugs. The CDC also has a searchable database, called*CDC Wonder.

National Overdose Deaths—Number of Deaths from Prescription Drugs. The figure above is a bar chart showing the total number of U.S. overdose deaths involving prescription drugs from 2001 to 2014. The chart is overlayed by a line graph showing the number of deaths by females and males. From 2001 to 2014 there was a 2.8-fold increase in the total number of deaths."



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But the link HFWR posted - wow, that's some serious playing, performance, and musicianship (IMO). It's not hit material, but it is impressive, and probably the best I've seen of him.







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You have to "join", but they'll let anyone in, as evidenced by the occasional weird tattooed crotch post, and the fact that I'm a member...
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. . . And this crackdown on prescription opiates has reduced their availability on the black market, driven up street prices, and resulted in the much wider use of heroin by opiate addicts (as a now-cheaper and more widely available alternative to stolen/black-market prescription opiates). The use of heroin of widely varying strength and cut with fentanyl and God-knows-what other poisons, is resulting in an epidemic of OD deaths.
All true. But you know what? We nearly forgot about heroin in the 80s. Maybe it was the coke, maybe "just say no", maybe fear of needles and AIDs, but it went away.

The theory is the heroin rebounded after people looked for alternates after their prescription was taken away. I.E. the prescriptions were the gateway.

Watch a few episodes of Intervention, and this is the typical story with addicts over 30. But what is disturbing is now kids are going right to it from the start, and it is darn near impossible to stop once they do.
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I knew his partying days were long gone, but I did find this comment interesting.

Close followers of Prince find it hard to believe that anything sinister could have played into his death. He was a Jehovah’s Witness and obsessively healthy eater. You couldn’t drink, smoke or even curse at his Paisley parties.

“Better eat your cheeseburger before you get to Paisley,” Van Jones, a political commentator and activist who was a friend of Prince’s, said he used to think before visiting Prince.

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I knew his partying days were long gone, but I did find this comment interesting.

Close followers of Prince find it hard to believe that anything sinister could have played into his death. He was a Jehovah’s Witness and obsessively healthy eater. You couldn’t drink, smoke or even curse at his Paisley parties.

“Better eat your cheeseburger before you get to Paisley,” Van Jones, a political commentator and activist who was a friend of Prince’s, said he used to think before visiting Prince.

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All the more reason, IMO, to think probably painkiller overuse or accidental overdose instead of OD such as drug abuse to get a high.
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It's sad, I like his music. But he is not dying young. My sister just sent me an obituary of a friend's son who just died at 33.


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If 1959 was the year the music died, 2016 is the year the music was utterly annihilated, cremated, pulverized and vaporized.

And yet, Keith Richards lives on. Go figure.
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. The use of heroin of widely varying strength and cut with fentanyl and God-knows-what other poisons, is resulting in an epidemic of OD deaths.
I had a hard working nephew, father of two little girls, who died from overdose with a large fentanyl cut. It's Russian roulette to use these drugs, I am glad I never considered doing them and I am sorry that he fell.

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All the more reason, IMO, to think probably painkiller overuse or accidental overdose instead of OD such as drug abuse to get a high.
Apparently Prince has already been cremated, and the results from the autopsy will not be received for four weeks. Maybe at that time we will know more about what caused his death.

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Sounds kind of inappropriate to bring up as Prince passed away less than a week ago. But already the legal wheel is already turning about his estate:

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Prince left no will, according to documents filed Tuesday by his sister, Tyka Nelson, in probate court for Carver County, Minn., where the beloved pop icon died suddenly last week at his Paisley Park compound.

"The Decedent died intestate," Nelson said in her petition for the appointment of a special administrator to deal with Prince's estate, which has been widely reported to be valued at $300 million.

Nelson said her brother left no surviving spouse, no children and no parents. Besides Nelson, his full sister, he is survived by half-brothers and half-sisters, whom Nelson names in her petition as "interested parties" to the Prince estate to her knowledge thus far.
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Estate lawyers and Prince's former manager, Owen Husney, said they would have expected Prince to have drawn up a will and an estate plan long ago.

Husney said he was too smart to have overlooked something that crucial and he had teams of lawyers, business managers and accountants over the years who would have advised him it was crucial.
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Interesting and sad that Prince may have unknowingly took a mislabeled pill that caused his death:

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Pills seized inside Prince's Paisley Park compound by investigators were labeled as hydrocodone but actually contained fentanyl -- the drug that killed the singer -- according to a source with knowledge of the investigation who revealed the information to the Minneapolis Star Tribune.The revelation gives more insight into what may have caused Prince's overdose. There are two likely possibilities: Either a pharmaceutical manufacturer mislabeled the pills, or the pills were illegally manufactured and obtained illegally.
However, according to the Star Tribune, investigators are working under the theory that the pop star did not know the pills contained fentanyl. Prince died on April 21 from an accidental overdose of fentanyl, according to the medical examiner.
Report: Pills found in Prince's home contained fentanyl - CNN.com

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The Paisley Park museum will also feature thousands of items from Prince’s personal archives, including instruments, clothing, cars, motorcycles, awards, rare music and videos, according to the announcement from Prince’s family and the estate’s special administrator, Bremer Trust. The planners predict between 1,500 and 2,000 visitors on peak days.
Filings with the city of Chanhassen indicate that Prince’s family has entered into an operating agreement with a subsidiary of Graceland Holdings LLC, which has been involved in running Elvis Presley’s Graceland estate in Memphis since 1982.
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