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Old 03-22-2006, 05:22 PM   #61
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Well, I am a conservative, married, Republican voter. But I fall into the camp of getting the Government out of marriage. People should be free to find what happiness they can in this life as long as they hurt no one else.

It would require that the tax codes be neutered so there was no difference in the treatment of single vs. people in relationships.

I think the greatest complication is kids. Who pays? As long as its not the taxpayer and someone is responsible I can probably go along.
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Re: Protesting against Freedom - Rally against Gay marriage.............
Old 03-22-2006, 05:26 PM   #62
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I hate that we're free to hate freedom. I want to be told that I cant have that freedom. Then I'll be able to hate that.
You can't have the freedom to hate freedom. Hate that!
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Old 03-22-2006, 05:41 PM   #63
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The protesters are only asking that the state refrain from recognizing gay marriages and codify this as a constitutional amendment. Only inaction is required of the state, not action.
Enacting new constitutional amendments hardly qualifies as inaction. These people are going out of their way to create or strengthen discrimination, and using the state as a means to do so.

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The quote from Ben Franklin reads:* "They that would give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

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I hate that we're free to hate freedom.* I want to be told that I cant have that freedom.* Then I'll be able to hate that.
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Would the horse someday be eligible for Social Security & Medicare from its spouse's work credits
given that gays make up maybe 10% of population (not counting straights wearing sweaters over their shoulders--what's up with that?), and most of these play until 4am at the disco/leather bar instead of at home wooing me, the added cost should be negligible.

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Damn, after a quick scan I see someone married a gay horse at gunpoint and Minasotans are protesing.
reminds me of the "nuke a gay whale for jesus" button i used to wear in college

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Well, the reason that she gets "persecuted" is because she feels that she can say ANYTHING that's on her mind and nobody can disagree with it.* If they do, they're persecuting her!...a gay couple will move in upstairs from her, two of the butchest lesbians on earth will move in next door, and a few transexuals will move in across the street!
interesting observation & i think an accurate assessment on the persecution part. as to her just reward, way back, i had a highly intelligent friend, extremely charming when he wanted to be but a bit of a bigot. i used to tell him good luck on finding a soul mate because his mate has been born as an ethiopian lesbian jew.

yes, even gays can be bigots. me? i'm just prejudiced against anyone who isn't me. but i deal with it.

ps, your gay-dog routine is very funny.

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well, you just broke another myth of mine, I always thought lazygood4nothinbums were always straight.* I know I am .... ?
yea, you could be pretty sure i wasn't gonna let this one pass without comment.

what's the difference between a straight guy and a gay one?

three beers.

why are all the good looking guys gay?

because a good looking guy wakes up in the morning, looks in the mirror and says to himself: "what, waste this on a chic?"


oh, and by the way, of the 29 of us who have chimed in on this so far, only 1 has fessed up. so if that 10% holds true, there's 1.9 of you who should be offering me a drink. (and again, i don't mean the sweater guy).
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oh, and by the way, of the 29 of us who have chimed in on this so far, only 1 has fessed up. so if that 10% holds true, there's 1.9 of you who should be offering me a drink. (and again, i don't mean the sweater guy).
Apparently we have to get at least three beers ahead of you first...
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what's the difference between a straight guy and a gay one?

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When I was in college it was a six-pack. Straight men are getting easier and easier.

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Enacting new constitutional amendments hardly qualifies as inaction. These people are going out of their way to create or strengthen discrimination, and using the state as a means to do so.

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I view state constitutional amendments as coming from the people of that state. Not from the state itself. At least that is the case if const'l amendments are passed by referendum. The const'l amendment in question would prevent the state from enacting legislation to allow gay marriage. The state itself wouldn't have to do anything, but the citizenry would in order to pass a referendum.
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You know, I've enjoyed this thread, but I'm surprised that a board with the average age being significantly over 19 years of age doesn't have anyone willing to take an opposing view on this issue. I wonder if those who want a ban on gay marraige are just keeping quiet, perceiving they are in the minority view.
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They're afraid that someone will approach them with a six pack...

they're really afraid that it wont take that much...
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Yeah, insecure losers! So CFB, when are you and I going out for drinks again?
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I view state constitutional amendments as coming from the people of that state. Not from the state itself. At least that is the case if const'l amendments are passed by referendum. The const'l amendment in question would prevent the state from enacting legislation to allow gay marriage. The state itself wouldn't have to do anything, but the citizenry would in order to pass a referendum.
That seems to me a rather fine distinction. I am assuming that you equate "the state" with the legislature? Who, theoretically, represent the will of the people, right?

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Yeah, insecure losers! So CFB, when are you and I going out for drinks again?
Never. Took 15 paper towels to get all that slobber off my lap.
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Never.* Took 15 paper towels to get all that slobber off my lap.
That wasn't slobber.. O.K. we'll just stop now!
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By the way,

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(not counting straights wearing sweaters over their shoulders--what's up with that?)
They're called "Preppies." Is it 1981 where you live, by any chance?

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given that gays make up maybe 10% of population
Could you give the source documentation of this assertion?

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Could you give the source documentation of this assertion?

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And what is the percentage of gay horses?
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